Warik said:
Oh, I play the game as well - I just think that it's ridiculous and downright wrong that the customer should have to pay for the employer's greed. Now, I'm not saying that greed is a bad thing - it's only a bad thing when it fucks the customers.
Think about it, especially when going to a nice restaurant where the bill may be close to $100 for only two people. The waitress will be getting close to $15, and for what? For bringing two drinks, two plates, and one dessert? It's not like she cooks the damn thing. She picks it up and brings it over.
Let's do a rough analysis of the difficulties of being a waitress.
Step 1) "Hi what would you like to drink?"
Duration: < 1 minute
Step 2) "Table X needs blah blah blah and blah"
Duration: < 1 minute
Step 3) Bring items requested
Duration: < 1 minute
Step 4) Repeat steps 1, 2, and 3 for x such that x is an element of {"Food","Dessert","Bill"}
Duration: 3 x 3 = < 9 minutes
9 minutes + 3 minutes = 12 minutes.
Add 3 minutes for "is everything OK?" and we get 15 minutes.
So...
$15 in 15 minutes = $60 in 1 hour + $2-3 per hour normal salary = $62 per hour for performing services requiring nothing but basic writing, speech, and lifting skills.
And 10% of the bill is considered cheap?
5% should be the maximum.
-Warik
I hope everyone doesn't think like this.
Um, I don't really know what it is that I want to say here, but all this tipping talk is REALLY PISSING ME OFF. The service industry is the one of the most humble trades that a person can have. To some it's easy to some it's hard. But, I don't know anybody that makes a living at it, that hasn't been doing it for a couple of years. This is a trade that requires an un-American amount of restraint when it comes to dealing with people that have VERY wide misconceptions of what to expect from the server and don't know how to treat people, let alone someone trying to make that date or special evening go smoothly, or that bad day go away.
I bring home about 40k a year after taxes, no thanks to people that think I owe THEM something and don't tip. My regulars that do tip, get drunk, as fast as they want, thay also treat me like an American Human Being. Like a friend. And THAT'S WHY YOURE TIPPING. I have over 400 regulars. I know them all by name, I know what they drink, I've slept with some of their daughters ( well, not really SLEPT

) and I see them home safely after a hard day. I listen to the good, the bad, and the ugly. I help the girls find the "good' guys, and the guys find the easy girls. I EARN MY KEEP.
See that computer terminal they just typed your order in? It's tracking there sales. And basing his/her taxing and tip-outs on those sales. That means, if you didn't tip AT LEAST 7 or 8% you've COST THEM money to wait on YOU. That is SHITTY.
But that's fine, the next date you go on, enjoy your COLD food and WEAK drinks. And pray for a server that isn't a little under the weather, or else he'll make sure YOU'RE having what HE'S having. And, by the way that "dumb" blonde you're on a date with will know EXACTLY why you got bad service.
And go ahead and complain to the managment. You may get one over on us there. Just make sure you're not alone at any time for the rest of the week. Bartenders and servers have more friends than you. And our friends are Judges, Cops, Drug Dealers and Thugs.
Just make things easier on yourself, DO THE RIGHT THING, and tip. 15% really isn't that much. I go out all the time, and I tip 30%. And treat the server like a free American for Christ's sake!!!
Sorry, struck a nerve.