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how much do you tip the pizza delivery person?
- Thread starter rnch
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When I was 12, I ordered a pizza and had it delivered 3 blocks down from the place, and when the guy got there I gave him a 20 dollar bill and told him to keep the change. He just kinda looked blankly at me and was like "...you sure?"
I think I made his day
But my dad on the other hand wasn't so happy (since it was his money)
I think I made his day
But my dad on the other hand wasn't so happy (since it was his money)
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Warik
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I usually give $1, though I really shouldn't because the pizza place charges me an extra $1 when I choose delivery as opposed to carryout.
Assholes.
-Warik
Assholes.
-Warik
naturally anabolic
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if the order is over 20$ i will give the kid 30 and tell him to keep the change
supersizeme
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i used to deliver pizzas and also chinese food. we were happy whenever we got anything between two and three dollars for a tip so i've always tipped in that range. people who tip like shit have typically never worked in the service industry where their income is based off tips.
Rockafella Skank
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Most pizza drivers make food server minimum wage ... $2.13/hr. They work for tips and do it in their own car. They saved you the trip ... use this guide:
The common courtesy is 15% for normal service
If 15% is less than $2, please follow the $2 minimum. Remember, it should be a $2 minimum to have someone come to your house.
20% or more if the service is excellent.
10% or less for poor service. Nothing for very bad service.
If the order is $50 or more, at least 10%.
It's considerate to tip slightly more during bad weather
In rain, snow, extreme cold, or extreme heat, at least $1 more. It's thoughtful. The service is greater.
It's also considerate to tip slightly more for long distance
If your location is more than three miles from the store, it's considerate to tip $1 more.
If more than five miles, increase by another $1.
Remember that a five-mile drive in a residential area can take 30 minutes for the ten-mile round-trip.
Learn more here.
The common courtesy is 15% for normal service
If 15% is less than $2, please follow the $2 minimum. Remember, it should be a $2 minimum to have someone come to your house.
20% or more if the service is excellent.
10% or less for poor service. Nothing for very bad service.
If the order is $50 or more, at least 10%.
It's considerate to tip slightly more during bad weather
In rain, snow, extreme cold, or extreme heat, at least $1 more. It's thoughtful. The service is greater.
It's also considerate to tip slightly more for long distance
If your location is more than three miles from the store, it's considerate to tip $1 more.
If more than five miles, increase by another $1.
Remember that a five-mile drive in a residential area can take 30 minutes for the ten-mile round-trip.
Learn more here.
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Warik
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Honestly, I don't see why anyone should make anything extra for doing his job - it's not like I do.
I do my job and I do it pretty damn well, plus I do additional things that are not required based on the criteria under which I was hired. Additionally, I can prove that I am literally underpaid.
Do I get "tips" or anything special? No.
This whole tipping business is ridiculous. Hell, I'd rather that waitresses make above minimum wage and have the restaurants jack up the price of the food - it would be less than it would be when you add the tip to it.
When I went on a cruise, the baggage carrier expected a tip for carrying my shit. Uh, isn't it your job to carry my shit? Now, if you were the captain and you said: "oh sir, let me carry your bags," then you'd definitely deserve a tip for doing something that doesn't fall under your job description, but getting a tip for doing your job? Wtf is that?
Then again, I suppose tipping could be compared to taxation... giving up 15% of something in exchange for nothing special.
-Warik
I do my job and I do it pretty damn well, plus I do additional things that are not required based on the criteria under which I was hired. Additionally, I can prove that I am literally underpaid.
Do I get "tips" or anything special? No.
This whole tipping business is ridiculous. Hell, I'd rather that waitresses make above minimum wage and have the restaurants jack up the price of the food - it would be less than it would be when you add the tip to it.
When I went on a cruise, the baggage carrier expected a tip for carrying my shit. Uh, isn't it your job to carry my shit? Now, if you were the captain and you said: "oh sir, let me carry your bags," then you'd definitely deserve a tip for doing something that doesn't fall under your job description, but getting a tip for doing your job? Wtf is that?
Then again, I suppose tipping could be compared to taxation... giving up 15% of something in exchange for nothing special.
-Warik
Rockafella Skank
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I agree, but in the meantime I'll play the game fairly and pay more for the service when I get what I expect and still more when my expectations are exceeded. Remember, the road does run both ways ... a tipped employee doesn't forget about you if you tip appropriately ... a tipped employee also remembers you if you don't tip appropriately.Warik said:
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Warik
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Rockafella Skank said:
Oh, I play the game as well - I just think that it's ridiculous and downright wrong that the customer should have to pay for the employer's greed. Now, I'm not saying that greed is a bad thing - it's only a bad thing when it fucks the customers.
Think about it, especially when going to a nice restaurant where the bill may be close to $100 for only two people. The waitress will be getting close to $15, and for what? For bringing two drinks, two plates, and one dessert? It's not like she cooks the damn thing. She picks it up and brings it over.
Let's do a rough analysis of the difficulties of being a waitress.
Step 1) "Hi what would you like to drink?"
Duration: < 1 minute
Step 2) "Table X needs blah blah blah and blah"
Duration: < 1 minute
Step 3) Bring items requested
Duration: < 1 minute
Step 4) Repeat steps 1, 2, and 3 for x such that x is an element of {"Food","Dessert","Bill"}
Duration: 3 x 3 = < 9 minutes
9 minutes + 3 minutes = 12 minutes.
Add 3 minutes for "is everything OK?" and we get 15 minutes.
So...
$15 in 15 minutes = $60 in 1 hour + $2-3 per hour normal salary = $62 per hour for performing services requiring nothing but basic writing, speech, and lifting skills.
And 10% of the bill is considered cheap?
5% should be the maximum.
-Warik
HumanShell
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I know most pizza delivery pepople make regular minimum wage of $5.15 or whatever it is now per hour. Dominos, Pappa Johns, Pizza Hut/Inn.
Rockafella Skank
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Warik said:
Bro, trust me, you're preaching to the choir ... and my wife was a bartender for 8 years! She was damn good at it ... she carried my ass for most of those years. If anything, I should be fighting you tooth and nail.
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Warik
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Rockafella Skank said:
Well, since that discussion isn't really getting anywhere... why don't we talk about the more important issue at hand - why do you reduce everyone's text size to 1 when quoting it????
-Warik
the nature boy
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Night Fly said:
me too. I haven't had pizza in a while though.
Rockafella Skank
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Haha. Bold type bugs me and I use the smaller type to save scroll for people with dial up connections and/or those with screen res set at 800 x 600. Don't tell me, you set yours to 1600 x 1200 like I do? Besides, the quote is just for reference ... the only text that matters is mine. lol
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Warik
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Rockafella Skank said:
Actually, the scroll time is determined by the speed of the person's computer and not his Internet connection. The data size of the letter "A" in size 1 is equal to that at size 10. It takes equal time to download.
Rockafella Skank said:
You mean people still use that crap?
Rockafella Skank said:
Ok, I won't tell you.
Eh? What did you say?
-Warik
Rockafella Skank
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So true. It's Sunday. I've had some coffee -- my mind wandered.Warik said:
Sadly, they do. My Web logs show me that 46% of site visitors are using 800 x 600. Another 5% are using 640 x 480!Warik said:
Note the bold, normal type. Happy now?
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Warik
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Rockafella Skank said:
Wow... what percentage are normal 1600x1200 folk like us?
Rockafella Skank said:
No. I hate inconsistency.
HAHAH
Daeo
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Warik said:
That's just the way the restraunt buisness works Warik. There's alot of shit that goes along with being a waiter or bartender that you haven't mentioned. Obviously you haven't been in the service industry ever. If you don't want to tip stay at home and eat. That way you don't have to feel so obligated to tip anyone. I really hope that you don't tell this to the girl that you're going to dinner with though. Girls usually don't like tightwads...
Rockafella Skank
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I misread the 640x480 ... damn small screeen rez! It's 2% at 640x480.
Just 1% for 1600x1200.
1024x768 = 37% and 1280x1024 = 5%.
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Warik
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Daeo said:
I don't mind paying tips - I'm just saying that it's wrong.
Calm down, chief.
-Warik
Daeo
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Warik said:
There was no hostility in my post. I was serious. If you take that much time to break down what a waiter does and his worth then you do mind paying tips. I don't think it's wrong at all. Waiters get paid next to nothing at most restraunts. Tips is the only way for them to make money. Right or wrong that's the way it is. There's alot of shit in life that I'd like to argue with but nothing is going to change so why bother...
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dballer
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If the pizza is late.. or the guy has an additude.. I will tell him that is why he or she gets nothing.
If the service is good.. or on time. They get between 5 and 10 dollars.
I am sorry.. but if you tip change or $1.... your name goes into the computer with a * next to it. The next time you order.. you will be eating somthing nasty.
I think that people who tip shitty deserve to have nutsack hair put on their pizza.
(I have a friend who works at Pizza Hut while going to school... he tells me some of the shit they do to pizzas... I make SURE I tip good.)
If the service is good.. or on time. They get between 5 and 10 dollars.
I am sorry.. but if you tip change or $1.... your name goes into the computer with a * next to it. The next time you order.. you will be eating somthing nasty.
I think that people who tip shitty deserve to have nutsack hair put on their pizza.
(I have a friend who works at Pizza Hut while going to school... he tells me some of the shit they do to pizzas... I make SURE I tip good.)
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kronk
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dballer said:
Agreed, this is what I do as well. If they get her quick and the service is good, I will tip $3-$10 depending on my order. Usually my order is under $13.00 so I will give them $3 to $5.
If they were not that good, I will give them $1 to $2, but thats only if they are complete asswipes.
Doesnt happen anymore, becuase the pizza place knows I tip good so I always get my pizza hot and in 25-30 mins.
Testoterone Tom
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Warik said:
I hope everyone doesn't think like this.
Um, I don't really know what it is that I want to say here, but all this tipping talk is REALLY PISSING ME OFF. The service industry is the one of the most humble trades that a person can have. To some it's easy to some it's hard. But, I don't know anybody that makes a living at it, that hasn't been doing it for a couple of years. This is a trade that requires an un-American amount of restraint when it comes to dealing with people that have VERY wide misconceptions of what to expect from the server and don't know how to treat people, let alone someone trying to make that date or special evening go smoothly, or that bad day go away.
I bring home about 40k a year after taxes, no thanks to people that think I owe THEM something and don't tip. My regulars that do tip, get drunk, as fast as they want, thay also treat me like an American Human Being. Like a friend. And THAT'S WHY YOURE TIPPING. I have over 400 regulars. I know them all by name, I know what they drink, I've slept with some of their daughters ( well, not really SLEPT
) and I see them home safely after a hard day. I listen to the good, the bad, and the ugly. I help the girls find the "good' guys, and the guys find the easy girls. I EARN MY KEEP. See that computer terminal they just typed your order in? It's tracking there sales. And basing his/her taxing and tip-outs on those sales. That means, if you didn't tip AT LEAST 7 or 8% you've COST THEM money to wait on YOU. That is SHITTY.
But that's fine, the next date you go on, enjoy your COLD food and WEAK drinks. And pray for a server that isn't a little under the weather, or else he'll make sure YOU'RE having what HE'S having. And, by the way that "dumb" blonde you're on a date with will know EXACTLY why you got bad service.
And go ahead and complain to the managment. You may get one over on us there. Just make sure you're not alone at any time for the rest of the week. Bartenders and servers have more friends than you. And our friends are Judges, Cops, Drug Dealers and Thugs.
Just make things easier on yourself, DO THE RIGHT THING, and tip. 15% really isn't that much. I go out all the time, and I tip 30%. And treat the server like a free American for Christ's sake!!!
Sorry, struck a nerve.
Warik said:
Warik I think your math is a little fuzzy there. I restaurant that costs $100 for two people will likely take close to two hours for the whole meal/dining experience. True, it only take 15 minutes of her time in total (actual work), but you are the waitresses responsibility the whole time you are there.
You can't really measure out peoples' salary only counting the time they're doing something.
Here's an example of Warik math:
A parking lot attendant (one of those guys who sits in the little booth) makes $8.00 an hour normal salary. But, out of every hour he's there, he only does a total of 3 minutes of actual work, the rest of the time he does homework and reads science fiction novels. The only thing he does is give people change when they leave the parking lot. Ten cars leave the parking lot per hour, and each car takes him 10 seconds to take the ticket, take their money and let them out, totalling about three minutes of work. At $8.00 an hour, he's making about $2.66 per minute of actual work. So using Warik math, HE MAKES $159 AN HOUR.
Can you believe it, a parking lot attendant makes $160 an hour?
Give me a break.
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alexiarenee
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Depends how much the total was...
Usually 2 dollars..
1 seems too cheap
Usually 2 dollars..
1 seems too cheap
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Warik
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Daeo said:
"That much" time? It didn't take me much longer to figure that out than it often does to figure out the tip.
I can figure out the integral of x^2 pretty quickly and I really don't care about that either.
The fact is, I don't mind paying tips, but I don't think anyone should. It's the employer's responsibility to pay the employees - not the customer's.
Imagine if you had to pay the cashier at the supermarket whenever you bought groceries because the supermarket didn't.
-Warik
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Warik
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bigguns7 said:
Fact stated by you.
bigguns7 said:
Another fact stated by you.
bigguns7 said:
You've just proven that it's true. A parking attendent does THREE MINUTES OF ACTUAL WORK per hour. As such, after ONE HOUR of ACTUAL WORK he will have made $160.
Is that so hard to believe? Do you not know how to multiply and add? Where I come from, you work for one hour and you get paid in accordance to amount of personal time you gave to the company. If the parking attendant only gave 3 minutes per hour of personal time to the company, than he would have to work for 20 hours in order to give 1 hour of personal time to the company - which would equate to a $160/hr salary.
Let's compare this to a computer programmer, a teacher, an automechanic on a busy day, or a cashier at the grocery store WHO ACTUALLY WORKS FOR ALMOST THE ENTIRE HOUR and, in reality, makes less than the parking attendent who sits there picking his boogers for the remaining 57 minutes in each hour.
To quote you - "Give me a break."
-Warik
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Warik
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bigguns7 said:
No, I perfectly got your point. You are the one who has missed mine.
Your point was that it was ridiculous for me to state that a parking attendant gets paid $160. You are saying that it is ridiculous for me to state that a parking attendant makes more than a school teacher or a computer programmer.
The problem is that your claim is based on weekly hours, and that you seem to think that my claim is based on weekly hours.
It is not.
My claim is based on actual work hours. When you say: "I'm going to work." Do you mean "I'm going to WORK" or do you mean "I'm going to sit in my chair and do absolutely nothing except for a few brief moments of every hour during which I will actually do something productive and earn my pay." If you say the former, then you should also be insulted by the way the parking attendant is paid.
You go off to work and slave over a desk or a computer for close to 60 minutes every hour while the parking attendant sits there at his luxury to do whatever he wishes. What could the parking attendant be doing in all of that free time? Everything you're not.
Please keep in mind - I'M NOT SAYING THAT A PARKING ATTENDANT GETS "PAID MORE" THAN OTHER PROFESSIONS WITH HIGHER HOURLY RATES. I'm saying that a parking attendant gets paid more for ACTUAL WORK TIME than many other more-deserving professions.
-Warik
Testoterone Tom
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I just have to throw in that, when me and my co-workers start our shifts, we are are non-stop busy. There is always something to do. I will acknowledge, however, if a server is purposely performing below his/her abilities, if you were not a poor tipper in the past, then by all means, go to a differant server and ask about the problem server. Maybe the server just sucks. If they are purposely sucking, go to someone else. If you have no other choice, confront him. If he still sucks, tell the manager. But TIP in the meantime, so you don't look cheap, and get bad service form everyone else because they see you not tipping.
Daeo
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Warik said:
So do you suggest that the parking attendant only show up to work when a car is present at the gate waiting to get out then? Actual work is irrelevant. Police officers for example don't "work" as you say they do. They deserve every penny and more though. Just because they aren't arresting someone every minute of the day doesn't mean they don't deserve what they get...
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Warik
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Daeo said:
Oh, of course not. That would not be a very efficient way of employing people.
The problem here, however, is that your analogy does not completely hold when compared to the initial topic of discussion. Why? The people parking in the parking lot do not directly pay the attendant's salary - the attendant's employee pays 100% of it. The citizens the police "protect" (note the quotes... but that's a whole other thread) do not directly pay the cop's salary - the city pays 100% of it.
How about waitresses? The customers DO pay most of their salary! I don't have the right to question the fairness about what the parking attendant makes because I don't pay his salary. I do, however, have the right to question the fairness of what the waitress gets paid because I DO pay her salary.
Exceptional service to me is:
1) Don't make me repeat myself.
2) Bring my food and drinks in a timely manner.
3) Don't make me have to play giraffe when I've taken out my credit card and am ready to pay.
That should be the minimum.
That being true, why do I pay extra for minimum service?
Do you tip the cashier for telling you that your groceries total out to $90? Hell no - that's her damn job.
So, should you tip the waitress for asking you what you want, bringing it, and then billing you for it? Why the hell - IT'S HER DAMN JOB!
Paying people extra to do what is minimally expected of them... amazing... only on Earth.
-Warik
Daeo
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Warik said:
Actually you do pay the salaries of the people you stated. Not directly, but indirectly. Taxes pay the cop(which YOU pay), and the rate to park pays the attendant.
Bartenders and waitpersons make nothing(from their employer) and that's not going to change. Everyone knows that when they take that job they rely on tips for their income. The patrons also know that. It's not going to ever change. That's the way it's been since the beginning. It's not like they changed it on us overnight. Comparing a grocery clerk to a waiter isn't on line. If the grocery clerk did your shopping for you while I sat in my car hell yeah I'd tip him. You say that he shouldn't be tipped for doing his job, but part of his job is tips. Plus the waiters aren't complaining about not getting a higher wage. Relying on tips allows them to make more than they would on minimum wage. Which is what the employer would give them...
crackedpolystyrene
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Things like this always make me sad. I'm tearing up right now... damnit.
