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How much Adex?

c gheller

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Plan on running 750mg/week Test E. Cant decide whether to use .5mg Adex/day or .75/day. Which do you guys think. I want to try to avoid the bloat but still gain.
 
It depends on your tolerance to test. If it were me I would run 1mg with 750mg's. I hate face bloat. I don't like blowing up with water. A lot of people think it kills your gains, I don't agree. People are so bent on how much weight they are gaining, if you gained 25 pounds in a cycle what wasn't your first cycle or after years off then alteast 10 of it was probably water. It's harder on your heart, elevates BP, and you look bad. Yes, I know I know, a little extra water helps your joints and allows you to use more weight. To me it's not worth it though.
 
silverbackn said:
It depends on your tolerance to test. If it were me I would run 1mg with 750mg's. I hate face bloat. I don't like blowing up with water. A lot of people think it kills your gains, I don't agree. People are so bent on how much weight they are gaining, if you gained 25 pounds in a cycle what wasn't your first cycle or after years off then alteast 10 of it was probably water. It's harder on your heart, elevates BP, and you look bad. Yes, I know I know, a little extra water helps your joints and allows you to use more weight. To me it's not worth it though.


My thoughts exactly man. I hate the bloat, red face, puffy look and estrogen related fat gain. Ok you sacrifice some strenghth gains but its all about quality gains for me at this point.
 
.5mgs/ED is just as good as a full mg. There's no reason to take more than that because it's not going to do more...you need to also remember that Arimidex lowers estrogen, but it still remains within low/normal physiological range.

You won't look any more "dry" than you did off cycle, when using Arimidex with AAS.
 
I have been taking injectable a-dex at .25 eod with 800 mg test and it has been a perfect balance.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
.5mgs/ED is just as good as a full mg. There's no reason to take more than that because it's not going to do more...you need to also remember that Arimidex lowers estrogen, but it still remains within low/normal physiological range.

You won't look any more "dry" than you did off cycle, when using Arimidex with AAS.

Really? How is a higher dose not more effective. Are you saying your not in favour of using Adex with AAS?
 
Anthony Roberts said:
.5mgs/ED is just as good as a full mg. There's no reason to take more than that because it's not going to do more...you need to also remember that Arimidex lowers estrogen, but it still remains within low/normal physiological range.

You won't look any more "dry" than you did off cycle, when using Arimidex with AAS.
I totally disagree. Speaking from my own personal experience and the experience of others that I have worked with.
 
c gheller said:
Really? How is a higher dose not more effective. Are you saying your not in favour of using Adex with AAS?

I totally disagree. Speaking from my own personal experience and the experience of others that I have worked with.

A higher dose is no more effective than a lower dose. One mg and a half a mg basically reduce estrogen the same amount, except for a few percentage points (not relevant).

From my first book:

" In one study, both .5mg and 1mg doses of Arimidex were shown to decrease estrogen by roughly 50%. The 1mg/day dose also increased testosterone levels by 58% (1). "

arimidex.gif


1. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2000 Jul;85(7):2370-7, "Estrogen Suppression in Males"
 
I use it willy nilly, seriously


And it works fine,


I do mix it up with AIFM, Novledex and then use Liquidex,


Which is the same, just about 75 per cent less expensive.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
A higher dose is no more effective than a lower dose. One mg and a half a mg basically reduce estrogen the same amount, except for a few percentage points (not relevant).

From my first book:

" In one study, both .5mg and 1mg doses of Arimidex were shown to decrease estrogen by roughly 50%. The 1mg/day dose also increased testosterone levels by 58% (1). "

arimidex.gif


1. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2000 Jul;85(7):2370-7, "Estrogen Suppression in Males"

Interesting thanks.
 
c gheller said:
Interesting thanks.

Shameless Self-Promotion:

Check out www.anthony-roberts.com . I have literally dozens of profiles covering basically every AAS and Ancillary product under the sun + all of my online articles and some audio interviews. It's a good resource for stuff like this.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
A higher dose is no more effective than a lower dose. One mg and a half a mg basically reduce estrogen the same amount, except for a few percentage points (not relevant).

From my first book:

" In one study, both .5mg and 1mg doses of Arimidex were shown to decrease estrogen by roughly 50%. The 1mg/day dose also increased testosterone levels by 58% (1). "

arimidex.gif


1. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2000 Jul;85(7):2370-7, "Estrogen Suppression in Males"
Interesting, thanks bro
 
.5? It comes im 1 mg,how do u guys split that in half? Its such a small pill to begin with. I have adex from astra zeneca and they are tiny! Is it okay to do 1mg and just take eod? Btw my cycke is 400mg of test cyp/week/10 weeks
 
trainhard79 said:
.5? It comes im 1 mg,how do u guys split that in half? Its such a small pill to begin with. I have adex from astra zeneca and they are tiny! Is it okay to do 1mg and just take eod? Btw my cycke is 400mg of test cyp/week/10 weeks
That's fine.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
Shameless Self-Promotion:

Check out www.anthony-roberts.com . I have literally dozens of profiles covering basically every AAS and Ancillary product under the sun + all of my online articles and some audio interviews. It's a good resource for stuff like this.

You realise tho that 50% up to 58% constitutes an almost 20% increase in effectiveness.
id call that substantial myself.
 
c gheller said:
You realise tho that 50% up to 58% constitutes an almost 20% increase in effectiveness.
id call that substantial myself.

If you manipulate the numbers to appear diffrerently, then fine...most people will not see it your way, because it's still 58% at a full mg vs/ 50% at half a mg. But if you like number manipiulation...Here's another way to look at it:

Halving the dose still allows you to get over 5/6ths the same estrogen suppression.

Put that way, you still get most of the same estrogen suppression. But instead of putting things in different terms, why not let it stand at 50% vs/ 58% with .5 and 1mg respectively? Most people will not call that additional 8% suppression (*out of a hundred percent) substantial or even noteworthy.
 
Granted. Im not tyring to be a smart ass. I guess i would like to know would that extra 8% be the bifference between side effects or not?
 
c gheller said:
Granted. Im not tyring to be a smart ass. I guess i would like to know would that extra 8% be the bifference between side effects or not?

Either way, you're still within normal physiological range...so it's very doubtful that it's going to make a difference.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
A higher dose is no more effective than a lower dose. One mg and a half a mg basically reduce estrogen the same amount, except for a few percentage points (not relevant).

From my first book:

" In one study, both .5mg and 1mg doses of Arimidex were shown to decrease estrogen by roughly 50%. The 1mg/day dose also increased testosterone levels by 58% (1). "

arimidex.gif


1. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2000 Jul;85(7):2370-7, "Estrogen Suppression in Males"

:p
 
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