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How many sets for each bodypart

dzuljas

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Lets say Im training shoulders and tris. How many sets do you guys normally like to do. I have been doing three sets of 10 on 3 exercises. I feel I should be doing more though. So 9 sets total. Some people say they do 15 sets for bis and tris? Advice appreciated
 
Low sets, higher weight = more muscle mass.

If you're an endurance person than go higher, but most of us are wanting to build, not tone.
 
XBiker said:
Low sets, higher weight = more muscle mass.

If you're an endurance person than go higher, but most of us are wanting to build, not tone.

Exactly- low volume, high intensity is key...
 
I do no more than 6 working sets per work-out for any muscle group. Of course I hit every muscle 3 times a week... so I guess 18 sets is a good number.
 
The_Eviscerator said:
I do no more than 6 working sets per work-out for any muscle group. Of course I hit every muscle 3 times a week... so I guess 18 sets is a good number.

Every muscle 3 times per week?! You can only get away with that while on a cycle..
Even while on, I only do 2 heavy sets per exercise, 2-3 exercises per body part,training every muscle group once a week...that's all it takes for me. Low volume, high intensity is key as Xbiker and Lift Chief said..
 
i agree no more than 5 sets per bodypart once per week... Doing this you can train 3 days a week balls to the wall and rest and recover and do cardio the rest of the week. I don't get why people do more. Once you switch and learn how to really maximize intensity on every set you will never go back.
 
sergio said:


Every muscle 3 times per week?! You can only get away with that while on a cycle..
Even while on, I only do 2 heavy sets per exercise, 2-3 exercises per body part,training every muscle group once a week...that's all it takes for me. Low volume, high intensity is key as Xbiker and Lift Chief said..

Sorry but is not true. With less sets and reps you will be able to workout the same muscle again. More sets and reps = you will nbeed lots of rest to repair muscles. I've been working out one musclegroup per week for quite a while. I looked at doggcrapp's routine and have been following it since. I train every wokrout with 3 warmup sets, then 3 sets to falure with a rest time between for about half a minute or so. I do not change weights, 3 sets with the same weight. Then I move to shoulders and shoulderpress. My chest has increased a lot even though I didn't think this was possible with only one excersice, I decided to try the routine and I'm so very glad I did. Chest has increased and it seems like my lower part of my chest finally is starting to grow. Also my shoulders look great. I had to change the routine a bit because of the stress on the biceps(doggcrapp suggested to workout back on day 1 then biceps on day 2, then day 3 rest and day 4 back again) so I changed the routine and are now workoing out biceps after back. If I feel tired or sore I add one off day. First 2 weeks I tried the routine I bumped my calories by 300extra per day. This was not enough it seemed because I was sweating like never before and actually lost weight. I therefor bumped calories and are now at +1000calories over my maintenance calorie intake. Food is very important with this routine just because of the fact without enough food your muscles will not repair until it's time again to hit them. If I was on a cutting diet I would go with either 1 day off between each session or workout 2 days then 2 days rest.

I will continue with this program until may and oin march I will step on a cycle and see what this routine will do for me while on.

If you havn't tried the routine, give it a try. Search for "doggcrapp"
 
As others have said intensity is the key. I suggest you go to MikeMentzer.com and buy his last book, High Intensity Training the Mike Mentzer Way. An incredible, eye opening read. Where others give you opinion, or just experience, Mike actually gives you logic and science. It's really refreshing considering all the bs out there.
 
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sergio said:


Every muscle 3 times per week?! You can only get away with that while on a cycle..
Even while on, I only do 2 heavy sets per exercise, 2-3 exercises per body part,training every muscle group once a week...that's all it takes for me. Low volume, high intensity is key as Xbiker and Lift Chief said..

On cycle or off... it doesn't matter. Actually... it workes out to 3 times in 8 days... so it is a little longer than a week. My first 3 sets are a heavy compound movement... for instance:

DB Bench 3 sets 8-12
Cable Flye's with a deep stretch 3 sets 8-12

If you follow that type of protocol, it is pretty easy to do it 3 times a week.
 
C3bodybuilding said:
As others have said intensity is the key. I suggest you go to MikeMentzer.com and buy his last book, High Intensity Training the Mike Mentzer Way. An incredible, eye opening read. Where others give you opinion, or just experience, Mike actually gives you logic and science. It's really refreshing considering all the bs out there.

AMEN....books by Mike Mentzer is required reading for anyone serious about BBing, no matter what your genetics,his training principle applies to everyone,and works for everyone.
 
The_Eviscerator said:


On cycle or off... it doesn't matter. Actually... it workes out to 3 times in 8 days... so it is a little longer than a week. My first 3 sets are a heavy compound movement... for instance:

DB Bench 3 sets 8-12
Cable Flye's with a deep stretch 3 sets 8-12

If you follow that type of protocol, it is pretty easy to do it 3 times a week.

Of course it matters..when on,your recuperative abilities are enhanced by AAS. When you're off,you don't recover as fast.
I cut my training volume post cycle because I know I can't recover as fast and I know I will not get any stronger or bigger.
But I still manage to maintain my gains...
Looking at your routine, seems like you're giving yourself 1 to 2 days rest until you train that bodypart again...not long enough,you're overtrained, if you're training with any kind of intensity.
 
sergio said:


Every muscle 3 times per week?! You can only get away with that while on a cycle..
Even while on, I only do 2 heavy sets per exercise, 2-3 exercises per body part,training every muscle group once a week...that's all it takes for me. Low volume, high intensity is key as Xbiker and Lift Chief said..
There's more then one way to skin a cat. If you've seen pics of The_Eviscerator it's obviously working for him.
 
Mike Mentzer's workout books and routines are some of the worst training I have ever tried.

Mentzer's workouts work for about a month then PLATEAU for those using it.

There are much better training systems out there. Check the training board for a 5x5 program which is a sticky there.
 
CytoMel said:
Mike Mentzer's workout books and routines are some of the worst training I have ever tried.

Mentzer's workouts work for about a month then PLATEAU for those using it.

There are much better training systems out there. Check the training board for a 5x5 program which is a sticky there.

I used to see Mike every day at Gold's. He always looked like shit. Year in and year out - Mike looked like shit.
 
genarr3 said:

There's more then one way to skin a cat. If you've seen pics of The_Eviscerator it's obviously working for him.

amen...training is a very personal thing and what works for one may not work for another.

i knew a guy who was natural at 5'4" and close to 200 at 7% who would do 18 sets just on shoulder day.
 
4-6 sets for each muscle to absolute FAILURE to the point of pain that after the completion of the set the pain remains for 3-5 seconds.
it hurts so bad but feels so good!

MAKE IT HURT OR YOU AINT DOIN SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ONLY BITCHES DON'T LIKE PAIN.
 
genarr3 said:

There's more then one way to skin a cat. If you've seen pics of The_Eviscerator it's obviously working for him.

Then he's one in a million....to just about everyone else,his routine is considered chronic overtraining..
 
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