How many of you generally keep the gains from your cycle?

[TexasBB]

i've got to ask, what is meant by "keeping the gains". i think this should be further divided into two factors... 1) wieght gains and 2) strength gains.

i think weight gain is difficult to quantify because of the increase in water retention and blood levels during a cycle. i don't know how you can differentiate this from lean muscle mass gains (until a month or more after the cycle when those levels drop).

strength gains seems straightforward.

 

[lostlazy]

keep it or lose it...do a cycle a few months later and gain it back...its all good

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

we are PROGRAMMED to keep ZERO gains. i dont see how you guys can claim you keep xyz gains when we all know they will disapear in a matter of time unless you STAY ON.

That's just not true bro. I will agree that if you are beyong your genetic capability and you go off, you will lose your gains but seriously how many guys on this board are at that point?

 

[maldorf]

That's just not true bro. I will agree that if you are beyong your genetic capability and you go off, you will lose your gains but seriously how many guys on this board are at that point?

I would have to say for me this might be true. The longer I stay off the more I lose. Once stayed off for about 6 months and lost everything I had gained on the cycle. Ive been lifting for about 21 years now and so that might have a part in it, perhaps those that havent been lifting very long might keep most of theirs.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

I would have to say for me this might be true. The longer I stay off the more I lose. Once stayed off for about 6 months and lost everything I had gained on the cycle. Ive been lifting for about 21 years now and so that might have a part in it, perhaps those that havent been lifting very long might keep most of theirs.

Yeah, I think that makes a difference. The big difference maker though is if you keep up your intensity in the gym post cycle or do you slack off, how dialed is your diet post cycle, what drugs were you taking in the first place etc. Get on anadrol and I don't care who you are, the gains will vanish take test and tren and you'll keep most of your gains (other than bloat from the test). Lot of factors. PCT being the biggest.

 

[busamuscle]

we are PROGRAMMED to keep ZERO gains. i dont see how you guys can claim you keep xyz gains when we all know they will disapear in a matter of time unless you STAY ON.

Once you are past your genetic potential you will lose most if not all of your gains after you stop using AAS!I don't know why people think they can keep them,if you used 1g of test a week to get there what makes you think that its keepable if the average male only produces about 70-100mg per week!Test levels naturally increase due to weight lifting (stress on the muscle tissue) but don't continue to do so,they platue.The majority of gains are from nitrogen and protein retention causing hypertrophy of muscle cells.So lets say you stop lifting weights wich means you will have less test in your system and you lose muscle mass.Same goes with excess test that you put in your system once you stop your bodies own test even with proper PCT cannot and will not support the additional mass!The gains will fade with time!

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

I am running eq for 20 weeks at 600mg/week. I am on week three and I have been told that I wont see gains till week 6. But I am eating so much that I have already gained 5 pounds. I hope to gain another 10 because I have 17 weeks to go. Also I think that I will keep it because there is almost no bloat with eq because it is not that strong of an androgen. I will be running hcg, clomid, and nolva for pct...standard Jenetic profile

 

[AF PROSPECT]

I've done very well with keeping my gains, but I definitely have a lack of motivation. Also, you shouldn't be busting your ass in the gym to desperately try to keep your gains until your natural test levels have returned. I have a feeling that is alot of people's problem other than just lack of PCT knowledge/experience.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

I've done very well with keeping my gains, but I definitely have a lack of motivation. Also, you shouldn't be busting your ass in the gym to desperately try to keep your gains until your natural test levels have returned. I have a feeling that is alot of people's problem other than just lack of PCT knowledge/experience.

You should always bust your ass in the gym. You may reduce your number of sets but the intensity should always be your best. Don't bust your ass until your natural test levels are back? That's the worst advice I've ever read on this board.

 

[crazyivan]

when i came off last year i maintaned my weightt for several months,but my appitite started to suck. as i started eating less i started lossing weight. i was off for 9 months lossed most but not all my gains. i think if i keep eating like im on or at least close to it id keep close to all my gains.