how many cycles would you suggest doing before using tren? what else to use w/this?

[Knight9]

i am 23...5'9. i have done 3 cycles. i am 205+ usually but dieting down for a competition. i am 196 @10% BF. I have only used test @500mg for about 10 wks each cycle. i usually take about 8 months off between cycle.

i have started to plan and salivate at my next cycle. i will be doing it in the fall/winter.
this time i am bumping it up to 750 of test for 12 weeks w/ the first 6 wks dbol at 50mg ed.

i am looking into adding another injectable....
the problem is eq is not the mass gainer deca is...
however deca stays detectable for 2 yrs which could cause me problems if i am tested by the ncaa or in shows.
tren enanthate is the other injectable i am considering.
im not sure how much eq i'd use...deca would be 400/wk, OR tren @400/wk.

what are your thoughts on this and what i should do. i know i will probably be very happy with just bumping up the test and using some dbol but if i were to add another for mass gains what should i do?

 

[AHOVA]

I'm an NCAA drug tested athlete as well. TREN is detectable for a long time. Decca is way too long of detection time! I did TREN/PROP my first cycle. I kinda wish I would have just ran the test now, but hell it was amazing/

 

[fcfmuaythai]

Yes, tren is detectable for several months, almost a year. If you can go with deca, try it at 400mg/week and add winny at 50mg/day for the last few weeks to harden you up. That should make you happy. Or, run EQ at 500mg/week. It will not add as much mass as deca, but many people love it in a bulking cycle because it makes you hungry as shit so you can pack on the calories to support the muscle gain!

 

[bca21]

So tren is detectable longer than deca? Hes a tested athlete wich means stay away from deca. Big nono. Exp. deca alone. You need test, your body will shut down and test wil be gone gone

 

[cranny]

I may be wrong but I don't think deca is detectable for 2 yrs. You could bump the test up to 750/wk. but IMO it's not nec. Try bumping your calories up on a bulker instead bro. The dbol would be a nice addition but I would stick to just 4 wks. worth. If you don't want to run the deca(which would be a great addition for buking) run the EQ @ a min. of 400/wk. for at least 12-14 wks. Good luck w/ it.

 

[gettnlarge01]

if your getting drug tested i would use test prop or susp. use of tren should be based on how well you deal with sides from what your taking now. and as long as your making progress i would wait on the tren.

 

[mikefear]

Some short acting compounds would obviously be better for you, bro..

test prop..hell, even test cyp/enan.. but stay away from deca if you feel that you might be tested.. run an oral (dbol, drol -- 4-6 wks) and a nice dose of test (12-16 wks) and you should see the results you want.. just make sure you eat a lot

 

[solidspine]

I would do 3 or 4, I think your receptors are fine, and I really get worse sides with almost anything,

But being old school I never have done fina more than 6 weeks at time.

 

[gettnlarge01]

reactions to gear are different for everybody. I"m finishing a 12wk tren cycle with the only side was the night sweats.

 

[instant.muscle]

how was it?

 

[Knight9]

my only side from test is sebhorrea i think it is called. bumps on the back of my neck right around the hairline area. most are covered by hair when the hair is not freshly cut. if anyone knows how to fix that let me know!
deca is detectable 12-24 months.....
has anyone used nandolone phenyl? its supposedly only detectable for a year. should i expect to get the same results from that as i would deca durabolin?

 

[instant.muscle]

deca is detectable for 18 months, thats a fact trust me

 

[gettnlarge01]

bodyweight stayed about the same started at 190lbs now at 195lbs. drop a good bit of bodyfat.should"ve took pictures. about 3weeks ago when doing legs I either pulled or tore my hamstring waiting to see someone now[crap with insurance everybody needs referrals]my diet is not clean anymore pain pills kill my appetite. dropped 2inches off my waist was the biggest improvement. at the time I was eating 400-450g protein/day,150g carbs/day and 50-75g fat/day.

 

[instant.muscle]

well im bout 2 run test/eq/tren and i already have low bodyfat but if i only put on 5 pounds that i could naturally imma b mad lol

 

[slat1]

Detection times for AAS

Boldenone Undecyclenate 4-5 months
Clen 4-5 Days
Ephedrin 6-10 Days
Halo 2 months
Proviron 5 weeks
D-Bol 5 weeks
Methamphetamin 6-10 Days
Primo Depot 4-5 weeks
Deca 18 months
Nandrolon Phenylprop 12 months
Anavar 3 weeks
Anadrol 2 months
Winny oral 3 weeks
Winny inj 2 months
Test cyp 3 months
Test enat 3 months
Sustanon 3 months
Test Prop 2-3 weeks
Andriol 1 week
Tremolon Acet 4-5 weeks
Test supspenison No metabolites. t/e should
be back to normal in days.

Factors which influence the detection times


Metabolism
Fluid intake
Tolerance to the drug
Frequency of intake
Duration of intake
Body fat
Potency of drug
Dosage

 

[gettnlarge01]

some have the genetics for it and if you do i envy you. total lean muscle put on was about 1lb a week if you count the loss of bodyfat with the rise in bodyweight. you could be my new hero lol!!