how many cals when bulking?

[tical]

i'm currently about 188, fairly lean around 11% bf i'd guess

i'm looking to clean bulk but am trying to figure out the best ratio & # of calories

anyone have input?

3000-3500 cals too little?

 

[tical]

actually no juice, i am on TRT though

i'll keep it clean at around 3000

good advice about the gear/natural... makes a lot of sense, i'll keep that in mind for the future!

 

[tical]

sweet, i'll keep things at 3000kcal and see how things go...

here's my plan, most cals on training day... little lower on off days

training days:

grams protein / carbs / fat

meal #1: 47 / 50 / 0-5 (200mg ALA)
meal #2: 47 / 0-4 / 14 (fish oil)
meal #3: 47 / 50 / 0-5 (200mg ALA)
meal #4: 47 / 0-4 / 14 (fish oil)
- training -
meal #5: 55 / 120 / 0 (pwo)
meal #6: 55 / 120 / 0-5

non training days:

- eca (30 min prior to cardio)
- cardio (low intensity 30 min)

grams protein / carbs / fat

meal #1: 47 / 50 / 0-5 (200mg ALA)
meal #2: 47 / 0-4 / 14 (fish oil)
meal #3: 47 / 50 / 0-5 (200mg ALA)
meal #4: 47 / 0-4 / 14 (fish oil)
meal #5: 55 / 25-35 / 0-5 (200mg ALA)
meal #6: 55 / 0-4 / 14 (fish oil)



on 100mg cyp / wk for TRT btw... i wonder how beneficial it will be, i've only bulked on real cycles where i had a lot of room for error but i'm really motivated to keep this clean & see what i can do "semi-naturally" or for lack of a better word... within "range"

let me know your thoughts, thanks again bro