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make the switch to human grade gear?

For those of you who are not already shooting human grade?
 
I will never pay for human grade gear. I brew my own, and even though powder prices have gone up, its still cheaper than the pharmacy stuff.
 
I'm switching from human/UG to a combo of vet/human grade to supplement my HRT. If I can find a decent quality, trustworthy(someone I've known many years), minimal risk source for UG that's hand to hand purchase(non MO) I will save the vet gear for a 911 though. It's as good as $$$ in the bank. Actually, after purchase, transport, and safe storage it will probably be worth more than I paid for it. I won't buy it for much more than I would pay down South. I'd have to be pretty desperate to pay street price.
 
mr.nitro said:
I will never pay for human grade gear. I brew my own, and even though powder prices have gone up, its still cheaper than the pharmacy stuff.
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so what if you stop being able to get powder..what then.
 
there hasnt been any interuption in the flow of powder for the guys I deal with, so I guess the answer is pretty easy for me....stick with what's worked for me all along
 
needtogetaas said:
so what if you stop being able to get powder..what then.
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I would hate to question whether the powder I was getting was accurately dosed.

You could take the extra $100 you would have to spend for each batch and buy more human grade with it. :p
 
Some continue to still have product at a decent price and quality, just not most.
 
I think a lot of people will go with what is available to them. I would prefer human but if all I can get is vet, then so be it. Just my opinion
 
I think all the powder prices going up is great. I have always said the strong survive. Growing big isn't just about throwing weights around, you gotta use your head too. What they call "street smarts" always keeps safe. I haven't used recs in over 8 years, but I'm alive today, and not in jail cause I knew who to deal with. And I knew who to deal with cause I took my time, watched and built relationships before I stuck my neck out. I will help anyone willing to listen, but 90% won't ever listen. These changes in prices are just growing pains, the weak will be filtered out, and we'll be left with a cleaner supply chain.
 
hard2handle said:
I think all the powder prices going up is great. I have always said the strong survive. Growing big isn't just about throwing weights around, you gotta use your head too. What they call "street smarts" always keeps safe. I haven't used recs in over 8 years, but I'm alive today, and not in jail cause I knew who to deal with. And I knew who to deal with cause I took my time, watched and built relationships before I stuck my neck out. I will help anyone willing to listen, but 90% won't ever listen. These changes in prices are just growing pains, the weak will be filtered out, and we'll be left with a cleaner supply chain.
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its good being at the top of the food chain :)
 
hard2handle said:
I think all the powder prices going up is great. I have always said the strong survive. Growing big isn't just about throwing weights around, you gotta use your head too. What they call "street smarts" always keeps safe. I haven't used recs in over 8 years, but I'm alive today, and not in jail cause I knew who to deal with. And I knew who to deal with cause I took my time, watched and built relationships before I stuck my neck out. I will help anyone willing to listen, but 90% won't ever listen. These changes in prices are just growing pains, the weak will be filtered out, and we'll be left with a cleaner supply chain.
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I agree. I'm the guy telling everybody to be more careful online and in person and I'm always getting replies from people on how paranoid that a I am. I even try to defend my cautious attitude by telling others of my past experiences and what I've seen happen to those who weren't. It never fails-in one ear and out the other and my rants are written off as some juice induced paranoia. Of course until my phone rings and the operator tells me that I have a collect call from so and so from county jail. I accept and they're like "Why me??? Why didn't I listen to you??? I'm soooooo sorry that I didn't now!!! Help!!! Please!!! How much trouble am I in??? I told the cops everything because they said they'd help me out if I did, and they still arrested me just like you said that they would. I know that you said not to say anything if I got busted but I thought the cops would just let me off with a warning if I told them. I can't believe this is happening!!! What do I do now??? (sniffle, sniffle)"

If I had a bottle of t-400 for everytime this has happened to some cavalier dumbass that wrote me off as paranoid, and ends up calling me for damage control when it's too late, I'd be set with enough HRT to last me for over a year.

This happened again just recently too. It was a guy already on probation for AAS manufacturing/sale that told me cops had more important things to do than bust his small online MO biz. I told him he was taking a serious risk and that I hoped he was right. Well, he wasn't. Now he's facing 5 years in jail and he's rolling on his biz partner who is currently sitting in jail in another state awaiting trial. He even said he wished he got 30 days in jail the last time he got busted so he would've wisened up. He justified opening up shop again after being turned down for numerous good jobs because of his felony record and couldn't maintain the lifestyle he was accustomed to. Now he's looking into getting jobs like driving a tow truck or limo/cab because they're the only businesses that pay decent that hire convicted felons. He's double fucked in that dept. because his driving record sucks too. Now he's got the stress of losing his car, condo, reputation, and quite possibly his life cuz he's a rat. He's trying to get a job as a personal trainer now but since he's gotta start out working for a gym that takes 75% of his hourly rate he's not going to be able to cover his bills until he can go independent. If he'd have gone this route after he was busted the 1st time(as I recommended) he probably would be fine right now. To him, the whole going legit thing seemed like too long of a journey back then. Now his path is set and it's crunch time. It's not like he didn't have an older, wiser, friend like me to warn him so it's awful difficult for me to feel bad for him.
 
I'm going to have to go with whatever gear is easier to get. There are really only a couple of UGs here in the states that I will deal with. And only 2 intl. sources I would consider. Some of them offer both UG grade and and human grade. whatever's cheaper usually wins.
 
BigCracker said:
I agree. I'm the guy telling everybody to be more careful online and in person and I'm always getting replies from people on how paranoid that a I am. I even try to defend my cautious attitude by telling others of my past experiences and what I've seen happen to those who weren't. It never fails-in one ear and out the other and my rants are written off as some juice induced paranoia. Of course until my phone rings and the operator tells me that I have a collect call from so and so from county jail. I accept and they're like "Why me??? Why didn't I listen to you??? I'm soooooo sorry that I didn't now!!! Help!!! Please!!! How much trouble am I in??? I told the cops everything because they said they'd help me out if I did, and they still arrested me just like you said that they would. I know that you said not to say anything if I got busted but I thought the cops would just let me off with a warning if I told them. I can't believe this is happening!!! What do I do now??? (sniffle, sniffle)"

If I had a bottle of t-400 for everytime this has happened to some cavalier dumbass that wrote me off as paranoid, and ends up calling me for damage control when it's too late, I'd be set with enough HRT to last me for over a year.

This happened again just recently too. It was a guy already on probation for anabolic androgenic steroids manufacturing/sale that told me cops had more important things to do than bust his small online MO biz. I told him he was taking a serious risk and that I hoped he was right. Well, he wasn't. Now he's facing 5 years in jail and he's rolling on his biz partner who is currently sitting in jail in another state awaiting trial. He even said he wished he got 30 days in jail the last time he got busted so he would've wisened up. He justified opening up shop again after being turned down for numerous good jobs because of his felony record and couldn't maintain the lifestyle he was accustomed to. Now he's looking into getting jobs like driving a tow truck or limo/cab because they're the only businesses that pay decent that hire convicted felons. He's double fucked in that dept. because his driving record sucks too. Now he's got the stress of losing his car, condo, reputation, and quite possibly his life cuz he's a rat. He's trying to get a job as a personal trainer now but since he's gotta start out working for a gym that takes 75% of his hourly rate he's not going to be able to cover his bills until he can go independent. If he'd have gone this route after he was busted the 1st time(as I recommended) he probably would be fine right now. To him, the whole going legit thing seemed like too long of a journey back then. Now his path is set and it's crunch time. It's not like he didn't have an older, wiser, friend like me to warn him so it's awful difficult for me to feel bad for him.
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I just love your rants bro....never read them but I do love them :heart:
 
needtogetaas said:
I just love your rants bro....never read them but I do love them :heart:
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LMFAO!!! I love reading my own posts so it doesn't matter if anyone else reads them. lol Plus I need the writing practice for the potential Pulitzer Winning Autobiography I'm writing.
 
BigCracker said:
LMFAO!!! I love reading my own posts so it doesn't matter if anyone else reads them. lol Plus I need the writing practice for the potential Pulitzer Winning Autobiography I'm writing.
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if anything "your still in the running to be americas next top model" if you dont get the pulitzer this year.. :artist:
 
the powder issue hasn't effected me at all,I'm fortunate that my suppliers don't go through china
 
I'm wishing there were Good Bros who could hook us all up with Quality Human Grade... instead of wasting pocketchange on a few grams of Inferior Low Quality 99% pure chinese powder I could be living la vida loca with Real Turkish Primo for mere hundreds.

If only such people existed on an A A S messageboard.. if only.
 
Tweakle said:
I'm wishing there were Good Bros who could hook us all up with Quality Human Grade... instead of wasting pocketchange on a few grams of Inferior Low Quality 99% pure chinese powder I could be living la vida loca with Real Turkish Primobolan - methenolone - for mere hundreds.

If only such people existed on an A A S messageboard.. if only.
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yeees if only , id join .
Brad.
 
georgie24 said:
if anything "your still in the running to be americas next top model" if you dont get the pulitzer this year.. :artist:
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I'm on the Kate Moss Cocaine Cut Up Diet Program. I'm also looking at signing an ad campaign for The Dust Buster. Life is good.
 
Since I have never gotten powder to make my own, I will continue doing what I have always done. Find whatever is available and just take that :)
 
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