ok, so say, you stack 300 dollars worth of prohormones, and manage a 8 week cycle , and gain 10 pounds. How do the sides compare to the real thing? Does your htpa get shut down the same as on juice? what about gyno? and the ability to keep the gains? also, has anyone had any problems with their liver while on prohormones, or even had it checked? insomnia? if anyone has done both aas-and ph, let us know.