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How does aspirin work???
This is an eye opener!

PHARMACEUTICAL "THERAPY"

If you have a headache, the doctor prescribes aspirin. The headache
disappears and everyone is happy. No one ever asked the question,
"What caused the headache?". Based on the treatment prescribed
and the resultant "cure", we can conclude that the headache was
caused by an "aspirin deficiency". However, a little research will tell
us that aspirin is composed of salicylic acid - an absolute poison to
the body, thus an "aspirin deficiency" is out of the question. In fact,
any drug on the market, we will find, is composed of chemical toxins
which are poisonous to humans. How then can drugs alleviate
symptoms, cure ills, wipe out disease and generally make us feel better
if they are poisonous?

To understand how drugs "cure" symptoms, let us look a little deeper
into how aspirin takes away a pain. Did you know that aspirin will relieve
any pain in the body, whether it be a headache or a toe ache? The only
exception to this is stomach pain. Aspirin will not help stomach pain.
Ask the pharmacist how aspirin works, he will tell you that it has some
sort of numbing effect over the entire body, so regardless of where
the pain is, it is relieved. But isn't the stomach part of the body?
Why doesn't aspirin take care of stomach pain? He will reply that
this is one of the great mysteries of aspirin.

Let's say you are out on the farm hunting and you get a thorn in your
finger. It is quite sore, so you decide to head back to your truck to
get some tweezers to take care of the problem. As you pass through
the barn yard you step on a nail. Do you still feel the pain of the thorn
in your finger, in fact do you even remember it is there? Was it suddenly
cured when you stepped on the nail? No, not at all. Then why is the thorn
no longer a concern? Simply because your body now has a higher priority -
something more life threatening to worry about - the nail in the foot.
Then as you are passing through the barbed wire fence to finally reach
your truck, you shoot your toe off with the shotgun (the other foot of course). Are you now aware of the thorn? No. How about the hole in your foot from
the rusty nail. I don't think so. Why not? Once again the body shifted its
focus to the most life threatening situation. There is only x amount of
energy in the body. If we createa crisis in one part of the body, energy
must be "borrowed" from other parts of the body to cope with the crisis.

Every aspirin (buffered or not) causes a teaspoon worth of bleeding in
the stomach. If you have a headache, which is generally caused by toxic
blood from something we've eaten which is harmful to us, and you take
an aspirin causing internal bleeding,which do you think would be more
life threatening? In most cases the internal bleeding. The body must now
shift its attention to the higher priority problem (stomach), and the headache
disappears. Did the aspirin remove the toxins from the blood stream?
Not at all, just created a more life threatening situation. If the aspirin does not take away the headache, it simply means that the internal bleeding is
not more life threatening than the toxic blood. So now take six aspirin,
and a more life theatening situation will take place in the stomach and the
headache dissipates. Why doesn't aspirin take care of stomach pain? If you
have stomach pain then your body's attention is already focused on
the stomach. Additional stress there willnot force the body to shift its
attention elsewhere in the body. Tylenol, however, will alleviate stomach
pain because it plays havoc with the liver, causing the body to move its
attention from stomach to liver. Thus all drugs produce symptomatic relief
without actually removing the cause. A drug "cures" your complaint by
creating a disease of its own. If the poison of the drug, whatever drug you
want to name, is more life threatening to the body than the symptom for
which you took the drug (or the doctor's prescription for such), then your
symptoms will disappear. If the drug is not more lifethreatening, then it
will not produce symptomatic relief and the doctor willprescribe a stronger,
more poisonous, more life threatening drug. Now the body will be forced to
focus on the drug so that the drug literally doesn't kill the body. You become
symptom free. Yet the cause of the disease was not eliminated, and true
healing did not take place. Since there is no such thing as a drug deficiency,
the body simply put the disease process on hold to eliminate the drug.

How many children do you know that take antibiotics for infections?
The antibiotic stops the symptoms. As soon as the antibiotic is stopped,
the infection returns. It is because the antibiotic does not kill the infection,
rather the antibiotic is so toxic to the liver and rest of the body, that the body
must wall off, or put on "hold" the infective process to deal with the drug
before it kills the body. Once the drug is dealt with, the body will, as soon as it
has built up adequate nutrients and energies, resume the cleansing process
via the infection. If the taking of the antibiotic was so devitalizing to the body,
lowering its frequency, the infection may not return, only a more serious
chronic disease at a later date.

One of the great laws of nature is the law of cause and effect. We do not gain
anything without working for it. Diseases are not "caught", they are earned by
not taking care of our bodies. How then can we not stop doing the wrong that
made us sick, take a drug and get well? It is the same as the drunk saying,
"Sober me up with a pill, but let me keep drinking". Impossible to do. Disease
is no exception.

When anesthetic is administered to knock one out for surgery, the same principle applies. The anesthetic is so poisonous to the body, that the body must put itself to sleep to free up the tremendous amount of energy that is used for consciousness. This energy is then utilized to eliminate the toxic anesthetic from the body before it causes death. Why do you think people are so sick and groggy after surgery. Why do something like 2% of people who undergo surgery die from the anesthetic if it weren't a poison? Different drugs rob energy from different parts of the body, thus they have various effects or "cure" different symptoms. The bottom line is that they rob energy from the body, change the body's priorities to focus on the drug - a more life threatening situation - and the cause is not eliminated. We are actually still sick, just as some must stay on drugs a lifetime to stay symptom free, constantly increasing the dose as they become sicker and sicker. Others are "cured" by the drug and can stop taking it, only to face another more serious disease down the road. If we would just listen to the body when we become ill, let the illness tell us our symptoms are due to something wrong we are doing (wrong diet or life style), stop doing it, then the illness as well as the need for drugs would be eliminated
and a more healthy life would result.

Side-Effects

"Side-effects" which often result when drugs are administered are the body's effort at eliminating the drug. Eg.: breaking out in a skin rash - body pushing drug out through skin, getting drowsy - body conserving conscious energy in order to stay alive while eliminating the drug.

The Logic of Drug Therapy?

Drug therapy defies all logic when we consider that any drug administered to a healthy person will make him sick, and yet the doctor prescibes these very poisons to a sick person and expects him to get well. How can a body be poisoned back to health?


I LOVE KARMA !!!
 
Based on the treatment prescribed
and the resultant "cure", we can conclude that the headache was
caused by an "aspirin deficiency".
If you got this from somewhere, then never post anything from that source again.

If you wrote this, then it's time for you to leave.
 
yep i like it..... seems very clear... if there is false in it show it to me...
.....that is if you can...??? :mommakin:
 
roidpuple said:
No one ever asked the question,
"What caused the headache?".
Everyone I know has asked this question at one point or another. Only idiots pop pills mindlessly, whether told to do so by a doctor or not.
roidpuple said:
Based on the treatment prescribed
and the resultant "cure", we can conclude that the headache was
caused by an "aspirin deficiency".
No, "we" can't, unless "we" are mildly retarded.
roidpuple said:
However, a little research will tell us that aspirin is composed of salicylic acid - an absolute poison to
the body, thus an "aspirin deficiency" is out of the question.
In doses commonly used, it is a mild stomach irritant and places a certain amount of strain on the liver (high doses can be dangerous), but is not a poison.

roidpuple said:
In fact, any drug on the market, we will find, is composed of chemical toxins
which are poisonous to humans. How then can drugs alleviate
symptoms, cure ills, wipe out disease and generally make us feel better
if they are poisonous?
Oh boy, I hope this douche tells us!

roidpuple said:
Ask the pharmacist how aspirin works, he will tell you that it has some
sort of numbing effect over the entire body, so regardless of where
the pain is, it is relieved.
If there was a pharmacist that said that, he/she would be out of a job by the next day.
roidpuple said:
Let's say you are out on the farm hunting and you get a thorn in your
finger. It is quite sore, so you decide to head back to your truck to
get some tweezers to take care of the problem. As you pass through
the barn yard you step on a nail. Do you still feel the pain of the thorn
in your finger, in fact do you even remember it is there? Was it suddenly
cured when you stepped on the nail? No, not at all. Then why is the thorn
no longer a concern? Simply because your body now has a higher priority -
something more life threatening to worry about - the nail in the foot.
Then as you are passing through the barbed wire fence to finally reach
your truck, you shoot your toe off with the shotgun (the other foot of course). Are you now aware of the thorn? No. How about the hole in your foot from
the rusty nail. I don't think so. Why not? Once again the body shifted its
focus to the most life threatening situation.
Hey, as long as we are oversimplifying issues, how about we simplify it down to the fact that the body can't tell a thorn from a shotgun blast, and you are only feeling the amount of nerve endings involved in the process.
roidpuple said:
Every aspirin (buffered or not) causes a teaspoon worth of bleeding in the stomach.
No. Goddamn, why hasn't anyone told this asshole to shut the fuck up?
roidpuple said:
If you have a headache, which is generally caused by toxic
blood from something we've eaten which is harmful to us,
Might want to tell that to modern science, because that's not what causes majority of headaches. In fact, consumption of toxic foods will usually result in irritation of the stomach and the bowels, not your head. In the case of the author, though, it seems his head and the bowels are one and the same.
roidpuple said:
and you take an aspirin causing internal bleeding,which do you think would be more
life threatening? In most cases the internal bleeding. The body must now
shift its attention to the higher priority problem (stomach), and the headache
disappears. Did the aspirin remove the toxins from the blood stream?
Not at all, just created a more life threatening situation. If the aspirin does not take away the headache, it simply means that the internal bleeding is
not more life threatening than the toxic blood. So now take six aspirin,
and a more life theatening situation will take place in the stomach and the
headache dissipates.
Fucking hippie should pick up an Intro to Basic Physiology book.
roidpuple said:
Why doesn't aspirin take care of stomach pain?
Maybe because most stomach pains are not caused by prostaglandins, WHICH IS HOW ASPIRIN WORKS, YOU FUCKING DUMBASS.

roidpuple said:
If you have stomach pain then your body's attention is already focused on
the stomach. Additional stress there willnot force the body to shift its
attention elsewhere in the body. Tylenol, however, will alleviate stomach
pain because it plays havoc with the liver, causing the body to move its
attention from stomach to liver. Thus all drugs produce symptomatic relief
without actually removing the cause. A drug "cures" your complaint by
creating a disease of its own. If the poison of the drug, whatever drug you
want to name, is more life threatening to the body than the symptom for
which you took the drug (or the doctor's prescription for such), then your
symptoms will disappear. If the drug is not more lifethreatening, then it
will not produce symptomatic relief and the doctor willprescribe a stronger,
more poisonous, more life threatening drug. Now the body will be forced to
focus on the drug so that the drug literally doesn't kill the body. You become
symptom free. Yet the cause of the disease was not eliminated, and true
healing did not take place. Since there is no such thing as a drug deficiency,
the body simply put the disease process on hold to eliminate the drug.
Jesus fucking Christ, this guy is worse than ten Fonzs combined.

roidpuple said:
How many children do you know that take antibiotics for infections?
The antibiotic stops the symptoms. As soon as the antibiotic is stopped,
the infection returns.
Not if you give it enough time for the antibiotic to do it's fucking job. It's not fucking pixie dust, you lowlife dipshit.
roidpuple said:
It is because the antibiotic does not kill the infection,
rather the antibiotic is so toxic to the liver and rest of the body, that the body must wall off, or put on "hold" the infective process to deal with the drug before it kills the body. Once the drug is dealt with, the body will, as soon as it has built up adequate nutrients and energies, resume the cleansing process via the infection. If the taking of the antibiotic was so devitalizing to the body, lowering its frequency, the infection may not return, only a more serious chronic disease at a later date.
If I ever see this guy, I will beat him with a basic bio textbook.
roidpuple said:
The Logic of Drug Therapy?

Drug therapy defies all logic when we consider that any drug administered to a healthy person will make him sick, and yet the doctor prescibes these very poisons to a sick person and expects him to get well. How can a body be poisoned back to health?
Maybe if you understood the most basic human body functions, you would know.

God fucking damn, morons like these piss me off.
 
I thought it was pretty interesting but then again!! Antibiotics have saved soooo many lifes!! I believe the only things that can cure you is your own immune system and antibiotics all other drugs dont do anything but make you feel better, they never really cure but good post I give you some karma bro
 
ohashi

oh god damn do i feel the love......
......I was hoping for some sources...
something to show me so i can learn... if i am wrong.. not just someone bitching with
opinion as there reason..... change my mind.. dont just say a bunch of stupid shit..
....I love to lean.... you are just being moody ... if you disagree give me some facts..
that is why i posted it... I want opinions... and i want the truth... I question everything... so calmn your silly ass down... and explain it... dont just put quotes and say they are stupid.. what the hell... you just sound pissed and you are not proving anything..,, if i am so fucking stupid maybe you can lead me to the light...
 
Dieselgoku23 said:
I thought it was pretty interesting but then again!! Antibiotics have saved soooo many lifes!! I believe the only things that can cure you is your own immune system and antibiotics all other drugs dont do anything but make you feel better, they never really cure but good post I give you some karma bro

thanx bro.... i agree
 
roidpuple said:
ohashi

oh god damn do i feel the love......
......I was hoping for some sources...
something to show me so i can learn... if i am wrong.. not just someone bitching with
opinion as there reason..... change my mind.. dont just say a bunch of stupid shit..
....I love to lean.... you are just being moody ... if you disagree give me some facts..
that is why i posted it... I want opinions... and i want the truth... I question everything... so calmn your silly ass down... and explain it... dont just put quotes and say they are stupid.. what the hell... you just sound pissed and you are not proving anything..,, if i am so fucking stupid maybe you can lead me to the light...

First of all, don't take it as an attack on you, as you did not write this (right)? I did not just say that the author is wrong; I gave reasons why, in all but two or three occurances. These are very simple but fundamental and known physiological functions, and I'm not here to teach Bio 101. If you don't understand something I wrote or are not familiar, or think the author is correct on a particular point, you can google it up, hit PubMed, and then post here with reasons why you think so, and we will continue the discussion, perhaps with others chiming in. But if you think that aspiring helps with a headache because it causes your stomach to bleed so badly your body forgets about the damn head, you have a lot of very basic reading to do.
 
That is some funy stuff. So I guess when you cut your finger you don't put a bandaid on it or get stitched becuase you do not have a bandaid or stitches deficiency right?

Anyway, aspirin, does not cause bleeding with every dose. It is a possible side affect of all NSAIDS except COX-II drugs like Celebrex and Viox which were designed to be GI friendly and have a lower incidence of gastric ulcers.

Apirin is a peripheral analgesic. It has a direct affect on blocking pain producing chemicals released during injury or trauma. Specificlly, its main mode of action is through blockijng prostaglandins which are released and bind with pain receptors causing pain.

The idea that aspirin causes stomach trauma and makes you forget about your other pain is ridiculous. Tell you what, next time you get a headache, hit your finger twice with a hammer and call me in the morning. That should work right?
 
Snarf said:
That is some funy stuff. So I guess when you cut your finger you don't put a bandaid on it or get stitched becuase you do not have a bandaid or stitches deficiency right?

?


yes

when I feel depressed I have a Martini and feel better thus "we" have concluded that I have a Martini defieciency
 
ok i got angry reading that bullshit. yeesh you go to pharmacy school for 4 years and then some dumb shit comes along and writes up a pile of bullshit, then other idiots believe it, thinking that the medical profession is a huge scam :mad:

aspirin blocks cyclooxygenase types 1 and 2, which in turn blocks prostaglandin formation, which has the effect of decreasing pyrogen formation and pain through a few mechanisms. taking aspirin DOES NOT cause bleeding in itself, it is actually hypothesised that the cause of the bleed (over time, if in fact it manifests) is tied to prostaglandin formation inhibition itself.

antibiotics DO in fact kill microbes, or at the very least, stop them from multiplying so taht your immune syste, ever acting in tandem with antibiotics, has a chance to get on top of the infection.

if you cut your finger and then blow your dick off with a 44 magnum because you were practicing your quick draw technique, teh reason you dont really feel pain anymore isnt because your body "focuses" on other problems, its mainly because your body releases endorphins in response to pain. endorphins are like natural painkillers, ad so you get some analgesia from that.

if you want to learn, then fine - go read something. i reccommend the book "pharmacology at a glance". but DONT put something like the above in writing again, since ther are people who believe it, and it helps perpetuate bullshit urban myths, which makes my life hard.
 
BTW roid puple

its ok

we are all here to learn,

and Ohashi is good people, he was more angry at the author than you
 
ohashi......your manner reminds me of someone else,almost identical infact.You dont also post elsewhere as "daishi" do you?
 
OMEGA said:
Ohashi you remind me of what I envision to be an Angry Macro

I kind of like it :)
LOL, bro.

macdaddy-1 said:
ohashi......your manner reminds me of someone else,almost identical infact.You dont also post elsewhere as "daishi" do you?
No. I post on a few boards, but I only use one other name, and that's on boards that have nothing to do with bodybuilding.
 
I saw this guy on late night TV selling some home remedy book...preaching all the same shit.... all the medicines on the market on to make us "dependant"....QUACK!
 
roidpuple said:
In fact, any drug on the market, we will find, is composed of chemical toxins
which are poisonous to humans. How then can drugs alleviate
symptoms, cure ills, wipe out disease and generally make us feel better
if they are poisonous?

We can answer this question by looking at anti-venom, which is derived from the animal's venom (a poisonous substance). This article is why I hate a lot of websites on the INTARWEB!
 
This is horse shit!

I simply do not have the time to discount all of the inaccuracies here. One easy one is the antibiotics scenario. Antibiotics DO kill the disease - period! That is how the work. Aspirin, is a COX1 inhibitor - look it up and you'll find out why it helps with pain, fever and heart conditions. I hate this kind of crap - its like posting "Steroids will cause you to become a hermaphrodite"

Just kill this post and move on.
 
Reading this gave me a headache...how can anyone be so ignorant? :rolleyes:

This is what we were taught in medical school....
oh, and aspirin can cause bleeding through inhibition of platelet aggregation which prolongs the bleeding time...

Drug: Aspirin (Acetylsalicylic acid)
Drug Class: NSAID
Mechanism of Action: Aspirin irreversibly inhibits both isoforms of COX. and inhibits platelet aggregation. Aspirin also interferes with the chemical mediators of the kallikrein system, thus inhibiting granulocyte adherence to damaged vasculature, stabilizing lysosomes, and inhibiting the chemotaxis of PMN leukocytes and macrophages.
Indications: 1) Anti-inflammatory. Aspirin interferes with the chemical mediators of the kallikrein system, thus inhibiting granulocyte adherence to damaged vasculature, stabilizing lysosomes, and inhibiting the chemotaxis of PMN leukocytes and macrophages. 2) Analgesia. Aspirin is effective in reducing pain of mild to moderate intensity through its effects on inflammation and probably because it inhibits pain stimuli at a subcortical (central) site. It is not effective for severe visceral pain. 3) Antipyretic. Aspirin reduces elevated body temperature (but it has little effect on body temperature in normal healthy patients). This effect is probably mediated by both COX inhibition in the CNS and inhibition of IL-1 (which is released by macrophages during episodes of inflammation). 4) Antiplatelet Effects. Single low doses of aspirin (81 mg daily) produce a slightly prolonged bleeding time, which doubles if administration is continued for a week. The change is due to irreversible inhibition of platelet COX, so that aspirin's antiplatelet effect lasts 8-10 days (the life of the platelet). 5) MI Prophylaxis: Aspirin is indicated to reduce the risk of death and/or nonfatal myocardial infarction in patients with a previous infarction or unstable angina pectoris. 6) Transient Ischemic Attacks: Aspirin is indicated for reducing the risk of recurrent transient ischemic attacks (TIAs) or stroke in men who have transient ischemia of the brain due to fibrin emboli. There is currently no evidence that aspirin is effective in reducing TIAs in women, or is of benefit in the treatment of completed strokes in men or women.

Contraindications: hypersensitivity to NSAIDs or history of bleeding disorders, such as GI bleeding or hemophelia. Not recommended during pregnancy, but may be valuable in treating preeclampsia-eclampsia. Children and teenagers should not use this medicine for chicken pox or flu symptoms before a doctor is consulted about Reye's syndrome, a rare but serious illness reported to be associated with aspirin.
Pharmacokinetics: Aspirin is rapidly hydrolyzed primarily in the liver to salicylic acid, which is conjugated with glycine (forming salicyluric acid) and glucuronic acid and excreted largely in the urine. As a result of the rapid hydrolysis, plasma concentrations of aspirin are always low and rarely exceed 20 mcg/ml at ordinary therapeutic doses. The peak salicylate level for uncoated aspirin occurs in about 2 hours; however with enteric coated aspirin tablets this is delayed. The plasma half-life for aspirin is approximately 15 minutes; that for salicylate lengthens as the dose increases: Doses of 300 to 650 mg have a half-life of 3.1 to 3.2 hours; with doses of 1 gram, the half-life is increased to 5 hours and with 2 grams it is increased to about 9 hours. Salicylates are excreted mainly by the kidney. Studies in man indicate that salicylate is excreted in the urine as free salicylic acid (10%), salicyluric acid (75%), salicylic phenolic (10%) and acyl (5%) glucuronides and gentisic acid (<1%).
Side Effects: Expected side effects are dose-dependent. With therapeutic doses, gastric upset, gastric and duodenal ulcers are the most common side effects. With high doses "salicylism" can occur - vomiting, tinnitus, decreased hearing, vertigo (reversible). Even larger doses cause hyperpnea through a direct effect on the medulla. At toxic doses, respiratory alkalosis followed by metabolic acidosis (salicylate accumulation), respiratory depression, and even cardiotoxicity an glucose intolerance can occur. Overdosage of 200 to 500 mg/kg is in the fatal range.

Major drug interactions: Aspirin may contribute to increasing bleeding time by decreasing prothrombin in the plasma. Large doses have a hypoglycemic action that can enhance the effect of oral hypoglycemic drugs and affect the diabetic's insulin requirements. Large doses of aspirin are uricosuric, but smaller amounts may decrease the uricosuric effects of probenecid, sulfinpyrazone and phenylbutazone. Therefore aspirin is contraindicated in the treatment of pain & inflammation associated with gout.
 
roidpuple said:
How does aspirin work???
This is an eye opener!

PHARMACEUTICAL "THERAPY"

If you have a headache, the doctor prescribes aspirin. The headache
disappears and everyone is happy. No one ever asked the question,
"What caused the headache?". Based on the treatment prescribed
and the resultant "cure", we can conclude that the headache was
caused by an "aspirin deficiency". However, a little research will tell
us that aspirin is composed of salicylic acid - an absolute poison to
the body, thus an "aspirin deficiency" is out of the question. In fact,
any drug on the market, we will find, is composed of chemical toxins
which are poisonous to humans. How then can drugs alleviate
symptoms, cure ills, wipe out disease and generally make us feel better
if they are poisonous?

Takes about five seconds to put this to rest. If headaches were caused by an aspirin deficiency you would have to take aspirin everyday to keep from getting a headache.In reality we get a headache and take aspirin when we need it. If this aspirin deficiency bullshit held up we would be in a constant state a pain without taking aspirin. That should be enough said about that. As far as aspirin being an absoulte poision is false. It can cause salicylic acid toxicity, but only in very high dose. As far as drugs on the market, if they contained anything poisonous they would not be on the market thanks to the FDA. They all have the tendency to be toxic at very high doses, but poisonous is plan obserd.


To understand how drugs "cure" symptoms, let us look a little deeper
into how aspirin takes away a pain. Did you know that aspirin will relieve
any pain in the body, whether it be a headache or a toe ache? The only
exception to this is stomach pain. Aspirin will not help stomach pain.
Ask the pharmacist how aspirin works, he will tell you that it has some
sort of numbing effect over the entire body, so regardless of where
the pain is, it is relieved. But isn't the stomach part of the body?
Why doesn't aspirin take care of stomach pain? He will reply that
this is one of the great mysteries of aspirin.

Aspirin has three different effect anti-inflammatory, pain management and blood thinning. Pain occurs by over stimulation of neurons and nerves in a particular area of the body and aspirin cures this pain by helping the brain get control back to these nurons and nerves. If a pharmacist replies this is one of the great mysteries of aspirin I would never ask him another question again. Basic physiology, biochem or biology will answer these questions, which is what a pharmacits has to take before going to graduate school, but obviously not the one in this fairy tale.


Let's say you are out on the farm hunting and you get a thorn in your
finger. It is quite sore, so you decide to head back to your truck to
get some tweezers to take care of the problem. As you pass through
the barn yard you step on a nail. Do you still feel the pain of the thorn
in your finger, in fact do you even remember it is there? Was it suddenly
cured when you stepped on the nail? No, not at all. Then why is the thorn
no longer a concern? Simply because your body now has a higher priority -
something more life threatening to worry about - the nail in the foot.
Then as you are passing through the barbed wire fence to finally reach
your truck, you shoot your toe off with the shotgun (the other foot of course). Are you now aware of the thorn? No. How about the hole in your foot from the rusty nail. I don't think so. Why not? Once again the body shifted its focus to the most life threatening situation. There is only x amount of energy in the body. If we createa crisis in one part of the body, energy
must be "borrowed" from other parts of the body to cope with the crisis.

The body does not shift focus. The brain is more than able to process more than one pain response at a time. If you stepped on a nail shot your self in the foot and chopped off an arm you would feel them all not just the worse injury. That is why there are so many different nerve path ways in the body. Pain management can be delegated to any part of the body through the spinal column. All 32 vertabres in the contain nerver that control pain and senses tp very specific parts of the body.


Every aspirin (buffered or not) causes a teaspoon worth of bleeding in
the stomach. If you have a headache, which is generally caused by toxic
blood from something we've eaten which is harmful to us, and you take
an aspirin causing internal bleeding,which do you think would be more
life threatening? In most cases the internal bleeding.

Asprin does not cause bleeding in the stomach unless it is taken in very high doses. Bleeding caused by aspirin is complicated. First you have to take enough to eat away the internal lining of the stomach. After this, when you take aspirin again, you cause a very bad irritation in the stomach where the lining was eatenaway, which is called an ulcer. After prolonged exposure to acidic thing like aspirin or even salsa for that matter the ulcer will bleed. this is where the bleeding come from. All this is due basically to the chagne in pH in the stomach, which is usually around 7 in the stomach. When it starts to drop below this is when problems start to happen.


The body must now shift its attention to the higher priority problem (stomach), and the headache
disappears. Did the aspirin remove the toxins from the blood stream?
Not at all, just created a more life threatening situation. If the aspirin does not take away the headache, it simply means that the internal bleeding is
not more life threatening than the toxic blood. So now take six aspirin,
and a more life theatening situation will take place in the stomach and the
headache dissipates. Why doesn't aspirin take care of stomach pain? If you
have stomach pain then your body's attention is already focused on
the stomach.
This has already been addressed by someone else.

Tylenol, however, will alleviate stomach pain because it plays havoc with the liver, causing the body to move its attention from stomach to liver. Thus all drugs produce symptomatic relief without actually removing the cause.

Tylenol is a better pain reliever b/c it only has two functions pain relief and fever reduction. Being that it causes only two actions in the body the pain relief actions of an equal dose of tylenol vs aspirin, you will get better pain refiel from the tylenol.


A drug "cures" your complaint by
creating a disease of its own. If the poison of the drug, whatever drug you
want to name, is more life threatening to the body than the symptom for
which you took the drug (or the doctor's prescription for such), then your
symptoms will disappear. If the drug is not more lifethreatening, then it
will not produce symptomatic relief and the doctor willprescribe a stronger,
more poisonous, more life threatening drug. Now the body will be forced to
focus on the drug so that the drug literally doesn't kill the body. You become
symptom free. Yet the cause of the disease was not eliminated, and true
healing did not take place. Since there is no such thing as a drug deficiency,
the body simply put the disease process on hold to eliminate the drug.

God please tell me whoever wrote this is not a member of a medical community or even has acollege education. OK, The drug does not creat a disease of it's own and this is so dam stupid I am not going to address it. If the drug was more life threating to you than the disease you have the docotr would not prescribe it to you I would hope. I'm not going to this doctor who ever he is. Sounds like he got his medical liscens from a gum ball machine. This paper even contradicts itself. It says there is no such thing as a drug deficiency, but the bases of the papre is on a drug deficiency. Man this is dumb.

How many children do you know that take antibiotics for infections?
The antibiotic stops the symptoms. As soon as the antibiotic is stopped,
the infection returns. It is because the antibiotic does not kill the infection,
rather the antibiotic is so toxic to the liver and rest of the body, that the body must wall off, or put on "hold" the infective process to deal with the drug before it kills the body. Once the drug is dealt with, the body will, as soon as it has built up adequate nutrients and energies, resume the cleansing process via the infection. If the taking of the antibiotic was so devitalizing to the body, lowering its frequency, the infection may not return, only a more serious chronic disease at a later date.

Anitbiotics don't kill the infection, but rather go to the source of the infection and kills it, which is a bacteria. The antibiotics are given b/c the bodies' own immune system does not have the anitbodies to kill the bacteria, which is why we get infections. It can and will produce them over time, but antibiotics are given so the immune system can make it's own antibodies at a much faster rate to prevent the infection from getting worse. The reason an infection come back after antibiotics are finished is b/c people quit taking them when they feel betterand not taking the entire prescription as they are suppose to. When this is done the infection you had to begin is not entirely killed and the remaining infection in the body has built an immunity to the antibiotic prescribed and therefor the person gets sick again, usually worse. Now they wil need a different antobiotic to kill the bacteria.


One of the great laws of nature is the law of cause and effect. We do not gain anything without working for it. Diseases are not "caught", they are earned by not taking care of our bodies. How then can we not stop doing the wrong that made us sick, take a drug and get well? It is the same as the drunk saying, "Sober me up with a pill, but let me keep drinking". Impossible to do. Disease is no exception.

AOk diseases are caught, although some can be avoided with proper health of the body. Sobering you up with a pill is impossible to do b/c to get sober you need to metabolise the alcohol and then excrete it from your body. There is no pill to help that process.


When anesthetic is administered to knock one out for surgery, the same principle applies. The anesthetic is so poisonous to the body, that the body must put itself to sleep to free up the tremendous amount of energy that is used for consciousness. This energy is then utilized to eliminate the toxic anesthetic from the body before it causes death. Why do you think people are so sick and groggy after surgery. Why do something like 2% of people who undergo surgery die from the anesthetic if it weren't a poison?

Most people who die from anesthetics is b/c they did not tell there anestheologist every drug they take including OTC's, alcohol and illegal drugs, which play a very big role in pain management. They are groggy and sick after surgery b/c the body is forced into a sleep that is out of the norm for the body. The same thing applies to a person who stayed up all night drinking and has a hangover the next morning, the drinking disturbed there normal sleeping pattern and the toxins produced by the metabolism of the alcohol make them feel terrible the next day.



Different drugs rob energy from different parts of the body, thus they have various effects or "cure" different symptoms. The bottom line is that they rob energy from the body, change the body's priorities to focus on the drug - a more life threatening situation - and the cause is not eliminated. We are actually still sick, just as some must stay on drugs a lifetime to stay symptom free, constantly increasing the dose as they become sicker and sicker. Others are "cured" by the drug and can stop taking it, only to face another more serious disease down the road. If we would just listen to the body when we become ill, let the illness tell us our symptoms are due to something wrong we are doing (wrong diet or life style), stop doing it, then the illness as well as the need for drugs would be eliminated
and a more healthy life would result.

OK drugs do not rob the body of energy b/c if they did every time we took a drug we would be tired and not able to function normally. How many people get tired and lazy when they take aspirin or aas/ I don't think no one does. I know I don't. The dose of some drugs have to be increased b/c the body builds a tolerance to the drug and the doseage must be increased to have the same theraputic effect. The tolerance is due to an increased effiency of the body to distribute, metabolise and excrete the drug, which will make overall blood plasma levels decrease, which will lower the effiency of the drug itself.




Oh! Yeah I LOVE KARMA!!!!!!!1
 
bicepts101 said:
so whats the expert opinion on taking one aspirin per day.....?


enteric coated baby aspirin (81mg) every day is recommended if you are over 40 and/or risk factors for CAD. post-MI/CVA patients should be taking the full 325mg. i am 34 and take 81mg every day along with my vitamins.
 
crfpilot14 said:
enteric coated baby aspirin (81mg) every day is recommended if you are over 40 and/or risk factors for CAD. post-MI/CVA patients should be taking the full 325mg. i am 34 and take 81mg every day along with my vitamins.


what about the young guys.....i take it while on cycle cause my blood gets too thick
 
I have one opinion though I think lately if you go to med school or Pharma school our health specially here in America is becoming a business sad but true!!!!. Notice we are the most medicated country yet our life expectancy is about the same from like 20 years ago!!!!. Pharma companies are here to make money they can care less about people if the actual put something out there that cures people, guess what no more customers?? Pharma companies are spending millions on adversiting, commercials on TV etc........, now at days people dont go to the doctor and ask what they suffer from or a solution for the problem but they go ask the doc what type of medecines they want. Just look at the commercials, if you suffer from this, that, this and that you might be have seriously ill with ........bullshit!!!. Next thing the average american thinks they have a problem and go to the doctor for that bullshit illness, and get hooked on medecine!! is sad but true and Pharma got pull on congress and even our President just my .02
 
Dieselgoku23 said:
I have one opinion though I think lately if you go to med school or Pharma school our health specially here in America is becoming a business sad but true!!!!. Notice we are the most medicated country yet our life expectancy is about the same from like 20 years ago!!!!. Pharma companies are here to make money they can care less about people if the actual put something out there that cures people, guess what no more customers?? Pharma companies are spending millions on adversiting, commercials on TV etc........, now at days people dont go to the doctor and ask what they suffer from or a solution for the problem but they go ask the doc what type of medecines they want. Just look at the commercials, if you suffer from this, that, this and that you might be have seriously ill with ........bullshit!!!. Next thing the average american thinks they have a problem and go to the doctor for that bullshit illness, and get hooked on medecine!! is sad but true and Pharma got pull on congress and even our President just my .02

good point...

ya I am trying to see both sides of the argument.... seems both sides..
lie a little... but to fix one thing usually addes some harm the other way.. with pharm.. that should be clear.... I am in the middle as of know..
but i love hearing both sides.....
 
Very good points actually. Very interesting and does make some sense
 
Dieselgoku23 said:
I have one opinion though I think lately if you go to med school or Pharma school our health specially here in America is becoming a business sad but true!!!!. Notice we are the most medicated country yet our life expectancy is about the same from like 20 years ago!!!!. Pharma companies are here to make money they can care less about people if the actual put something out there that cures people, guess what no more customers?? Pharma companies are spending millions on adversiting, commercials on TV etc........, now at days people dont go to the doctor and ask what they suffer from or a solution for the problem but they go ask the doc what type of medecines they want. Just look at the commercials, if you suffer from this, that, this and that you might be have seriously ill with ........bullshit!!!. Next thing the average american thinks they have a problem and go to the doctor for that bullshit illness, and get hooked on medecine!! is sad but true and Pharma got pull on congress and even our President just my .02


good points...but you are not taking into consideration quality of life issues. most people can live without the drugs they are precscribed but their health will go south faster without them and they are at a greater risk for worsening illness and/or death without them. you are correct about healthcare being all about business. most of the studies that we physicians base our care on are performed by pharmaceutical companies who sell the product. we as physicians must be able to determine which studies have merit and which do not.

ASA 81mg ed will not hurt you unless you have a bleeding disorder or you are on coumadin...
 
bicepts101 said:
what about the 325mg ed?
That's probably too much for daily intake. APAP is pretty hard on the liver, and there is no need for daily intake of those doses.
 
ohashi said:
That's probably too much for daily intake. APAP is pretty hard on the liver, and there is no need for daily intake of those doses.


THANKS for all your imput on this...
now i have another person to ask questions once in a while...
 
crfpilot14 said:
enteric coated baby aspirin (81mg) every day is recommended if you are over 40 and/or risk factors for CAD. post-MI/CVA patients should be taking the full 325mg. i am 34 and take 81mg every day along with my vitamins.
the optimum dose for anti platelet activity is 70mg or so. i dont see terribly much benefit in going 325 even post MI, unless i see a study advocating it taht i find half convincing (and i havnt, yet)
 
Dieselgoku23 said:
I have one opinion though I think lately if you go to med school or Pharma school our health specially here in America is becoming a business sad but true!!!!. Notice we are the most medicated country yet our life expectancy is about the same from like 20 years ago!!!!. Pharma companies are here to make money they can care less about people if the actual put something out there that cures people, guess what no more customers?? Pharma companies are spending millions on adversiting, commercials on TV etc........, now at days people dont go to the doctor and ask what they suffer from or a solution for the problem but they go ask the doc what type of medecines they want. Just look at the commercials, if you suffer from this, that, this and that you might be have seriously ill with ........bullshit!!!. Next thing the average american thinks they have a problem and go to the doctor for that bullshit illness, and get hooked on medecine!! is sad but true and Pharma got pull on congress and even our President just my .02
other factors affecting life expectancy have gone through the roof, particularly obesity. heart disease is whats killing lots and lots of people these days.

drugs are great, they can help you no end, but if you expect to sit there neglecting yourself in everyother aspect of your life ie no exercise, smoking a lot, eating far far too much etc, then dont expect drugs to make you live terribly much longer.

if otehr aspects of your life are covered, drugs can help you live waaaaay longer, and more importantly, with a higher quality of life
 
ohashi said:
That's probably too much for daily intake. APAP is pretty hard on the liver, and there is no need for daily intake of those doses.

yes, APAP is tough on the liver in higer doses, but we are talking about aspirin (ASA) not tylenol (APAP)! :chomp:


there is no benefit of taking 325mg ASA over 81mg for prophylaxis in a healthy patient. you will be at increased risk of stomach problems with the higher dose. just take a baby aspirin ed if you want to take it...
 
way too long to read :o but did you know that aspirin is derived from willow tree bark? (and don't jump all over me if this was in that article!)
 
bicepts101 said:
what about the young guys.....i take it while on cycle cause my blood gets too thick

Note that aspirin does not really "thin" your blood in terms of viscosity. It inhibits platelet aggregation which will increase pro-time.

If you blood is too thick while on cycle this is likely a function of too many red blood cells which will increase blood viscosity, making your heart work harder to pump your blood. Aspirin will not help with this. Best way to cure this: go donate blood.
 
glennds said:
way too long to read :o but did you know that aspirin is derived from willow tree bark? (and don't jump all over me if this was in that article!)
i made aspirin in the lab. there was no willow tree bark to be seen
 
GoldenDelicious said:
i made aspirin in the lab. there was no willow tree bark to be seen

really? maybe it is synthetically made these days. i am sure i have read this before.
 
this is a copy and paste from Bayer's official website about the history of aspirin pertaining to willow bark:

Medical historians give 1897 as the year in which Aspirin® was born -but in fact the exciting story of the best-known drug in human history began more than 3,500 years ago.
The Ebers papyrus, a collection of 877 medicinal recipes from the middle of the second millennium before Christ that had been bought during the last century from an Egyptian street vendor by the German egyptologist Georg Ebers, recommended an infusion of dried myrtle leaves for rheumatic and back pain.

About a thousend years later, Hippocrates of Kos, the father of all doctors, prescribed a juice extracted from the bark of the willow tree for fever and pain, and also for labour pains. The active substance in this juice, which does in fact ease pain, is - as we know today - salicylic acid. Its name gives a clue as to its origin, being derived from the Latin word for willow: salix.
And it is now know that it is precisely salicylic acid that is contained in the myrtle leaves which the Egyptians used to treat pain.
 
Snarf said:
Note that aspirin does not really "thin" your blood in terms of viscosity. It inhibits platelet aggregation which will increase pro-time.

aspirin has no effect on the intrinsic or extrinsic clotting pathways so it does not affect PT or PTT. it only affects bleeding time...which is different from the Prothrombin Time. but yes, go donate some blood.... :)
 
Snarf said:
Note that aspirin does not really "thin" your blood in terms of viscosity. It inhibits platelet aggregation which will increase pro-time.

If you blood is too thick while on cycle this is likely a function of too many red blood cells which will increase blood viscosity, making your heart work harder to pump your blood. Aspirin will not help with this. Best way to cure this: go donate blood.

interesting.....

sucks i cant donate blood for 3 years cause i was deployed over seas
 
dont tell them you were overseas
 
jdynasty said:
dont tell them you were overseas


scenario:

your child needs blood bad he just feel down the steps and landed on a sharp object. me, 2 months ago, gave blood. with out my knowledge my blood contained a harmfull substance, sensitive to children. our blood types match, my bag is choosen, kids dies from the dirty blood.

see why i cant give blood? there are things out there that we still dont know. esspecially in 3rd world countries...
 
glennds said:
really? maybe it is synthetically made these days. i am sure i have read this before.

It can be produced from willow tree bark, but it is synthetically made for public use. Penicillin was first6 made from the mold of an orange and now it is synthetically produced.
 
never thought about it but salicylic acid is also used in products for corn and wart removal. i didn't know it was the active ingredient in aspirin.
 
bicepts101 said:
scenario:

your child needs blood bad he just feel down the steps and landed on a sharp object. me, 2 months ago, gave blood. with out my knowledge my blood contained a harmfull substance, sensitive to children. our blood types match, my bag is choosen, kids dies from the dirty blood.

see why i cant give blood? there are things out there that we still dont know. esspecially in 3rd world countries...


you have any of these signs/symptoms?

Symptoms:
Headache
Weight loss
Weakness or malaise
Dizziness
Pruritus
Bruising
Ruddy or red appearance of the skin
Diaphoresis/dyspnea
Visual disturbance
Paresthesias
Arthropathies
Gastrointestinal - Fullness, thirst, abdominal discomfort, constipation

Signs:
Rubor, especially facial rubor
Skin plethora
Hypertension, both systolic and diastolic
Hepatomegaly
Splenomegaly
Conjunctival plethora (engorged vessels in the bulbar conjunctiva)
Ecchymosis


phlebotomy is the main treatment for reducing your polycythemia. you are at a high risk of thromboembolic events with the hyperviscosity. i would go see your doctor. he can diagnose the secondary polycythemia and do the necessary phlebotomy...
 
glennds said:
way too long to read :o but did you know that aspirin is derived from willow tree bark? (and don't jump all over me if this was in that article!)
oh relax it isnt that i didnt believe you, theres usually a few dozen ways to make any chemical

anyway in the article above, the drug is salicylic acid, which we use as a keratolytic (kerato = keratinised cells, ie skin, and lytic = lysis/breakdown ie destruction) which is a useful thing to do in someone who, say, has thick skin (eg warts, callouses, corns, eczema etc etc) to get rid of some of that skin while aspirin, if i recall correctly (i dont exactly look this up every day :D ) is acetyl-salicylic acid

i never really thought of swallowing salicylic acid though, i suppose its because at teh concentrations i have formulated it to (5% and up by weight) its a tad caustic, and will turn your lips to jelly

cheerios :)
 
i had a plantars wart about a year ago. talk about painful! i could barely walk. i went out and bought an over the counter product for warts, containing salicylic acid as the active ingredient. (might have been Compound W, or it generic equivalent).

anyone who has ever had a plantars wart will understand...this thing was so goddamn painful i went overboard with the salicylic acid and ended causing the skin to blister like crazy around the wart. the wart did not get any better.

finally it was so bad i made an appointment with a podiatrist who scolded my for my overuse of the acid. he thinks this stuff is way to dangerous for over the counter use and has seen diabetic people actually have to have feet removed from using this stuff. (no i am not diabetic).

the podiatrist used a scalpel or something to pick out the wart and then applied some type of powerful acid only available for doctors use. had to go back a week later so he could reapply to make sure wart gone but did the trick.
 
crfpilot14 said:
you have any of these signs/symptoms?

Symptoms:
Headache
Weight loss
Weakness or malaise
Dizziness
Pruritus
Bruising
Ruddy or red appearance of the skin
Diaphoresis/dyspnea
Visual disturbance
Paresthesias
Arthropathies
Gastrointestinal - Fullness, thirst, abdominal discomfort, constipation

Signs:
Rubor, especially facial rubor
Skin plethora
Hypertension, both systolic and diastolic
Hepatomegaly
Splenomegaly
Conjunctival plethora (engorged vessels in the bulbar conjunctiva)
Ecchymosis


phlebotomy is the main treatment for reducing your polycythemia. you are at a high risk of thromboembolic events with the hyperviscosity. i would go see your doctor. he can diagnose the secondary polycythemia and do the necessary phlebotomy...


thanks for taking the time to write this but i dont have any of theses problems
 
GoldenDelicious said:
...while aspirin, if i recall correctly (i dont exactly look this up every day :D ) is acetyl-salicylic acid...

aspirin is acetyl-salicylic acide. but the acetyl group is cleaved off during first pass metabolism and the salicylic acid is the active ingredient.

bicepts,
if you are not symptomatic, then why worry...and how do you know if you are polucythemic? have you have a CBC done recently? if you are worried about an embolus, just take 81mg aspirin a day. but you should see your doc if you are worried...
 
glennds said:
i had a plantars wart about a year ago. talk about painful! i could barely walk. i went out and bought an over the counter product for warts, containing salicylic acid as the active ingredient. (might have been Compound W, or it generic equivalent).

anyone who has ever had a plantars wart will understand...this thing was so goddamn painful i went overboard with the salicylic acid and ended causing the skin to blister like crazy around the wart. the wart did not get any better.

finally it was so bad i made an appointment with a podiatrist who scolded my for my overuse of the acid. he thinks this stuff is way to dangerous for over the counter use and has seen diabetic people actually have to have feet removed from using this stuff. (no i am not diabetic).

the podiatrist used a scalpel or something to pick out the wart and then applied some type of powerful acid only available for doctors use. had to go back a week later so he could reapply to make sure wart gone but did the trick.
the podiatrist likely usd sal acid again, at a higher strength

i think the highest i can give out over the counter is 5%

doctors often ask for it to be made at 20
 
crfpilot14 said:
aspirin is acetyl-salicylic acide. but the acetyl group is cleaved off during first pass metabolism and the salicylic acid is the active ingredient.

bicepts,
if you are not symptomatic, then why worry...and how do you know if you are polucythemic? have you have a CBC done recently? if you are worried about an embolus, just take 81mg aspirin a day. but you should see your doc if you are worried...


well i just noticed that after injections the blood that came out of the pin hole was getting pretty dark....i WAS getting numbness in the hands last year...it happened only a few times...so i started taking asprin on cycle and i havent seen any problems since.....but ive never had the other symtoms
 
bicepts101 said:
well i just noticed that after injections the blood that came out of the pin hole was getting pretty dark....i WAS getting numbness in the hands last year...it happened only a few times...so i started taking asprin on cycle and i havent seen any problems since.....but ive never had the other symtoms


if you are not having any stomach issues tehn continue taking the 325mg, but there is no benefit over 81mg when it comes to preventing thromboembolic events.
 
crfpilot14 said:
if you are not having any stomach issues tehn continue taking the 325mg, but there is no benefit over 81mg when it comes to preventing thromboembolic events.


where can i find the 81mg ones?
 
what about asprin and vanadyl sulfate ... what are the benifits of these together???
do you have an effect on your pumps??
 
roidpuple said:
How does aspirin work???
This is an eye opener!

PHARMACEUTICAL "THERAPY"

If you have a headache, the doctor prescribes aspirin. The headache
disappears and everyone is happy. No one ever asked the question,
"What caused the headache?". Based on the treatment prescribed
and the resultant "cure", we can conclude that the headache was
caused by an "aspirin deficiency". However, a little research will tell
us that aspirin is composed of salicylic acid - an absolute poison to
the body, thus an "aspirin deficiency" is out of the question. In fact,
any drug on the market, we will find, is composed of chemical toxins
which are poisonous to humans. How then can drugs alleviate
symptoms, cure ills, wipe out disease and generally make us feel better
if they are poisonous?

To understand how drugs "cure" symptoms, let us look a little deeper
into how aspirin takes away a pain. Did you know that aspirin will relieve
any pain in the body, whether it be a headache or a toe ache? The only
exception to this is stomach pain. Aspirin will not help stomach pain.
Ask the pharmacist how aspirin works, he will tell you that it has some
sort of numbing effect over the entire body, so regardless of where
the pain is, it is relieved. But isn't the stomach part of the body?
Why doesn't aspirin take care of stomach pain? He will reply that
this is one of the great mysteries of aspirin.

Let's say you are out on the farm hunting and you get a thorn in your
finger. It is quite sore, so you decide to head back to your truck to
get some tweezers to take care of the problem. As you pass through
the barn yard you step on a nail. Do you still feel the pain of the thorn
in your finger, in fact do you even remember it is there? Was it suddenly
cured when you stepped on the nail? No, not at all. Then why is the thorn
no longer a concern? Simply because your body now has a higher priority -
something more life threatening to worry about - the nail in the foot.
Then as you are passing through the barbed wire fence to finally reach
your truck, you shoot your toe off with the shotgun (the other foot of course). Are you now aware of the thorn? No. How about the hole in your foot from
the rusty nail. I don't think so. Why not? Once again the body shifted its
focus to the most life threatening situation. There is only x amount of
energy in the body. If we createa crisis in one part of the body, energy
must be "borrowed" from other parts of the body to cope with the crisis.

Every aspirin (buffered or not) causes a teaspoon worth of bleeding in
the stomach. If you have a headache, which is generally caused by toxic
blood from something we've eaten which is harmful to us, and you take
an aspirin causing internal bleeding,which do you think would be more
life threatening? In most cases the internal bleeding. The body must now
shift its attention to the higher priority problem (stomach), and the headache
disappears. Did the aspirin remove the toxins from the blood stream?
Not at all, just created a more life threatening situation. If the aspirin does not take away the headache, it simply means that the internal bleeding is
not more life threatening than the toxic blood. So now take six aspirin,
and a more life theatening situation will take place in the stomach and the
headache dissipates. Why doesn't aspirin take care of stomach pain? If you
have stomach pain then your body's attention is already focused on
the stomach. Additional stress there willnot force the body to shift its
attention elsewhere in the body. Tylenol, however, will alleviate stomach
pain because it plays havoc with the liver, causing the body to move its
attention from stomach to liver. Thus all drugs produce symptomatic relief
without actually removing the cause. A drug "cures" your complaint by
creating a disease of its own. If the poison of the drug, whatever drug you
want to name, is more life threatening to the body than the symptom for
which you took the drug (or the doctor's prescription for such), then your
symptoms will disappear. If the drug is not more lifethreatening, then it
will not produce symptomatic relief and the doctor willprescribe a stronger,
more poisonous, more life threatening drug. Now the body will be forced to
focus on the drug so that the drug literally doesn't kill the body. You become
symptom free. Yet the cause of the disease was not eliminated, and true
healing did not take place. Since there is no such thing as a drug deficiency,
the body simply put the disease process on hold to eliminate the drug.

How many children do you know that take antibiotics for infections?
The antibiotic stops the symptoms. As soon as the antibiotic is stopped,
the infection returns. It is because the antibiotic does not kill the infection,
rather the antibiotic is so toxic to the liver and rest of the body, that the body
must wall off, or put on "hold" the infective process to deal with the drug
before it kills the body. Once the drug is dealt with, the body will, as soon as it
has built up adequate nutrients and energies, resume the cleansing process
via the infection. If the taking of the antibiotic was so devitalizing to the body,
lowering its frequency, the infection may not return, only a more serious
chronic disease at a later date.

One of the great laws of nature is the law of cause and effect. We do not gain
anything without working for it. Diseases are not "caught", they are earned by
not taking care of our bodies. How then can we not stop doing the wrong that
made us sick, take a drug and get well? It is the same as the drunk saying,
"Sober me up with a pill, but let me keep drinking". Impossible to do. Disease
is no exception.

When anesthetic is administered to knock one out for surgery, the same principle applies. The anesthetic is so poisonous to the body, that the body must put itself to sleep to free up the tremendous amount of energy that is used for consciousness. This energy is then utilized to eliminate the toxic anesthetic from the body before it causes death. Why do you think people are so sick and groggy after surgery. Why do something like 2% of people who undergo surgery die from the anesthetic if it weren't a poison? Different drugs rob energy from different parts of the body, thus they have various effects or "cure" different symptoms. The bottom line is that they rob energy from the body, change the body's priorities to focus on the drug - a more life threatening situation - and the cause is not eliminated. We are actually still sick, just as some must stay on drugs a lifetime to stay symptom free, constantly increasing the dose as they become sicker and sicker. Others are "cured" by the drug and can stop taking it, only to face another more serious disease down the road. If we would just listen to the body when we become ill, let the illness tell us our symptoms are due to something wrong we are doing (wrong diet or life style), stop doing it, then the illness as well as the need for drugs would be eliminated
and a more healthy life would result.

Side-Effects

"Side-effects" which often result when drugs are administered are the body's effort at eliminating the drug. Eg.: breaking out in a skin rash - body pushing drug out through skin, getting drowsy - body conserving conscious energy in order to stay alive while eliminating the drug.

The Logic of Drug Therapy?

Drug therapy defies all logic when we consider that any drug administered to a healthy person will make him sick, and yet the doctor prescibes these very poisons to a sick person and expects him to get well. How can a body be poisoned back to health?


I LOVE KARMA !!!

I nominate this post, as the dumbest post of the year, including the next 9 months.
 
This is just a piece of crap. Complete Bullshit. Great indicator of stupidity.
I am a healthcare professional.
This person has a few loose nuts; a few cans missing from the cabinet.
Do yourself a favor and completely ignore it.
He has wasted your time.
 
Now I see the usefulness of Bomb Squad.
Please give him enough negative karma to obliterate him.
If anyone ever deserved it, he is the one.
 
LoneTree said:
Now I see the usefulness of Bomb Squad.
Please give him enough negative karma to obliterate him.
If anyone ever deserved it, he is the one.

are you talking about me??
because i wanted to see what people thought??
hummmm
 
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