How do you get past a weight wall ?

[SirDingo]

Question, I have been upping the weight almost every session the last couple of weeks, by like 5lbs each day, and now on a lot of my lifts I feel I just can't get that 8th rep up on the 3rd set, I am just going to hard almost ? And now my failure sets have really dropped off in reps, used to belike 12-15 reps to failure, now maybe 6 or 8trps to failure

How do you keep packing on the weights to the bar every week or so and continue to do so for months ?

 

[OMEGA]

Honestly I would Pick the 2 most challenging sticking points and only try to break a wall on them and try for 2-3 months As apposed to all lifts.

For me this meant Incline Bench ( DB's) and one Arm Rows.
Legs were never a problem or Arms but Db Incline and rows seem low relative to other lifts.

~ I made sure my pre wokout meals even the night before were perfect
~ Made sure I got sleep
~ made sure Supplements PreWorkout were perfect
~ also I threw in a extra serving of Creatine the night before

As far as form on those lifts

~ once I was worked up I went for it
~ I temporarily sacrificed my form for looser form on the heavier sets
~ Allow the use of assist muscles to help
~ ONLY do this till you rise weights by 20% then go back to more normal form gradually
~ Always default back to out good form as it is the way to build the look

 

[SirDingo]

So if I can only bench press like 200lbs today, I am supposed to be able to add 5lbs a week to the bar, like I have been doing. So that means in like 4 months I should be pushing 300lbs bench press ? That seems pretty incredible to be able to make those kind of gain in short time, and I don't think can really be done like that.

So what happens to big people like Mr. Olympia's, they must come to some wall and just can't keep adding weight to the bar forever, they aren't benching 1,000lbs. Or curling 200lbs dumbbells ?

So how does your body still grow or add muscle after people have reached this so called wall ? Just drop the weight down and work on perfecting the form to a "t" with very slow controlled movement ?

 

[OMEGA]

Listen when I give advice you must read carefully
and PAY attention

I said Pick 2 LIFTS ONLY
I also said go for 20%,
20% of 200 will = 240 by the end

also read as instructed this thread for thresholds:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/7845808-post1.html

The Body remembers when you push it, but you can only push for so long where you have to ease back, but when you DO ease back you keep many of the gains

again your ultimate goal is this:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/7845808-post1.html

 

[SirDingo]

Sorry I was paying attention just got a little confused. So your saying you don't need to be going 300lbs benched and 100lbs barbell curls, that is good to know. It is more about the form once you reach your limit ?

I was just stating or asking what happens to all body builders that have been doing it for years, how do you keep packing on muscle mass if you can't keep adding weight to the bar, just add more clean calories to you diet ?

 

[OMEGA]

no you do not have to lift the world to get HUGE

Almost All Pros expect Arnold and Haney learned that you do not have to lift Huge to get huge

its about VOlUME with a certain degree of Strength combined

Many other got so many injuries that taught them the hard way that you only need so much strength to get huge

The Pros that are super huge are taking so much Juice that the body ups the set point of how much mass they can hold so they hold more muscle.

More of us can get big with our own levels so long as we eat and train correct

 

[SirDingo]

Thanks for the advice Omega, sorry if I was asking stupid questions.

So it is about volume and eating more, not lifting mountains.

 

[FriendlyCanadian]

I always try to push for myself personally, I think mental toughness and determination is equally as important as the things Omega mention at least for me I find it helps.

sometimes I'll push for more and I can't do it, but I don't let it discourage me, I'll drop the weight perhaps even less to what was my max of the workout before and just really work on my form and push for more higher reps, I feel that when I do this and really work on perfecting my form, the next time I come in there, I'm mentally prepared and a little stronger and all those little assisting muscles are a bit more ready to push through the wall.

This is how I feel at least, I feel sometimes that improving your form and the slow controlled pace at which you lift is equally if not more important then adding more weight to the bar, so when I do it better the next workout, and add maybe a rep or really work on the pump and the form, I feel like I've improved myself and I know the added weight is coming in just a matter of time.

just my two cents.