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How do I help this bro understand that gear isnt a joke ?

I need some serious help. I have a very good friend and he wants to get crazy big. He is 37 yr old and is about 18- 20 percent bf. He thinks he is about 14 percent, no way. He did the chiropractor hand held bf meter that isnt accurate at all and thinks he knows everything. He worked out tonight and said he wasnt going to eat. He said he had a big lunch and didnt need to eat. WHAT ??????? He has some test 250 vials and says he is going to only use 20 mgs twice a WEEK. WHAT ?????? I told him 250 or 500 would be a good solid cycle start. He is about 5 10 and weighed 168 today. He has decent arms and decent chest but no legs at all. His back is not muscular at all and for some reason thinks he knows everything and thinks I am crazy. You would think to see him that he was near 190 or so.

This guy barely grad hs and has never logged on this site. He doesnt even know what pct is and has never ever heard of hcg. His cycle is gong to be 6 weeks and at a crazy insane low dose. I told him he wouldnt see anything from it. He doesnt understand the cal intake needed and he doestn want to listen to me. I made this thread so that hopefully some good bros on here will

A Let him know that the bodyfat tester that calculates your bmi by the hands is a total bullshit way to read bodyfat. It is like using the weight scale that they have that shows bodyfat. Tell him when abs start showing through, at what percentage of bf.

B, please let this guy know about amounts. He is truly thinking that 20 mg a week is going to give him some great noticeable benefit. I told him a man his age on avg makes about 110 mg a week naturally and that adding that small amount would be worthless.

C Please let him know that cycles should run 10 to 12 weeks with pct after and some inhibitor during cycle.

D Please let him know that the body is craving protein and nutrition after working out and all during cycle. He doesnt know what catabolic means. REALLY.

E I know he wont read the other threads posted but since this ONE is about him, maybe he can stay focused enough to understand that I am trying to help him, not hurt him.

For the record, I have only done a few cycles. I am early 30s and am about 5 10 and weighed in today at 191. I am pretty decently built and have a good solid base. Legs and torso all match up, chest and back and arms are all decent. He looks bigger than me through the arms and chest but I am not trying to get freaky huge(job) and he is a mechanic so it doesnt matter to him

Seriously, this is a very disturbing matter to me and hopefully I can log on tomorrow and show him the knowledge that needs to be obtained prior to doing any gear. He has the determination and drive in the gym but for some reason, HAS NO IDEA about what it takes. Thanks in advance. Again, I have tried to get him to join and read and read but he refuses. I am at my wits end and need some solid advice from some experienced bros out there and maybe he will take heed. Thanks!
 
I can't say much more than at that age he should have a little more common sense and respect for himself to at least have a little knowledge about what he's putting into his body.
Sounds like his mind is already made up though.
 
stick him with a dirty needle.
 
Give him the website to do his own homework. If he doesn't then fuck him. Some people just don't want to be helped and maybe he's that type of guy.
 
Mrpumped said:
Give him the website to do his own homework. If he doesn't then fuck him. Some people just don't want to be helped and maybe he's that type of guy.

I really hate people like that, and if he is one of these self proclaimed 'know-it-alls', fuck him. He's not going to listen to anyone anyway.
 
Write the guy off; he's a dickhead.

At least he's only planning to do 20mg twice a week so he won't do any harm...this time.
 
if its the same 37 year old that has been pming me, i agree, i asked him to eat more and he said that he already eats clean and doesn't want to eat a lot of cals cause that will make him fat. people don't understand you can gain more off of a 2lb steak ed diet than you can off a gram of test if you are that size.
 
What makes you think he will listen to us?

Let him do his 20mgs per week, it's not gonna harm him!
 
I agree.


Mac173 said:
I can't say much more than at that age he should have a little more common sense and respect for himself to at least have a little knowledge about what he's putting into his body.
Sounds like his mind is already made up though.
 
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