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How bad would the side effects be of 200mg of tren e?

it is much wiser to run tren ace as a first tren cycle because as i said, if you react badly to it then it willl be out of your system quickly... in general, people running tren for the first time use ace....
 
listen we all start somewhere.. but where you are now... you are not ready for tren.

wait and learn then use it down the road
 
My very frist cycle was Tren ace and Test prop...
every single cycle I have ever done has contained tren either ACE or Enantahte.
If its your first time, id say go with tren ace, just incase you do not like the sides or cant stand them.

For me the only sides I get is im a lot warmer and I sweat like a hog. Im on 850mg of tren E per week.
but like with any AAS everyone is going to react differently, get different sides etc.... Some people cant handle tren at all.

The only difference in side effects between tren ace and tren E that I noticed. Is that I get more irritable on tren Ace or tend to lose my patience a lot quicker. Where with tren E i dont get that. I dont know why it does that. Could be that tren E is a lot easier to keep your blood levals more stable because of the longer ester. No clue.

But if it were me, and I had my head fixed on using tren for a first cycle, definatly use tren ace. yeah you will be shooting more often, and the there will be a bit more pip. But at least you can put the hormone to a halt if you cant take it.

As for the people saying wait till your 3rd or 4th cycle I never understood that. Tren doesnt compare to anything else. So it doesnt matter if you try it now or later, you will never know how you react to it until you try it, doesnt make a difference.
 
^^^ if you read all the PM's i got and all the threads on here from guys who ran tren and a year later still can't get it up you would understand why we don't recommend it to newbs. the one thing in common is every single one of them did not run tren knowing what they were doing. it puts a black eye on what we all do, everytime i see another thread of someone who says tren messed them up I get mad. its a wonderful AAS, but only if used properly and when you know what you are doing. so this is why we tell newbs not to touch it. learn the ABC's first

your first cycle should be simple and little risk vs. reward. when you gain knowledge and experience then you can mess around with tren.
 
i used tren ace on my second cycle.. the only side i had was humping everything that had a vagina. instead of a low dose of tren i would say use a kick start oral, and then finish with an oral..

1-12 test e 500 mgs
1-4 d-bol 50 mgs a day
9-12 winstrol or anavar 50 mgs a day
 
What were the end results here Milton??? U didn't mention pct or any other supports so I wanted to know if u have kept the gains?
 
What bothers me is when you started you were 150lbs with more than 15% bodyfat.... Both too light and too fat to start a cycle..... You could benefit from some natural training for a couple of years, then a few test cycles then maybe think about tren in three or four years... In five years you could be a beast and still be healthy... Tren is like the NOS of the steroid world, and you want to use your nos before you've got past first gear...
 
Radar (or others): how low bf% do you think is acceptable for a second cycle to include mast? I know lower is better on that stuff.

I have a lot of it at home which I skipped for first cycle (being 18-19% at the time) but considering it for the second cycle where I'll be in the 13-16% range.
 
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