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How bad is the bloat with NPP?

Bozwell said:
I love doing sust and npp eod my fave base for any cycle


Sust will bloat you like any other Test. Some people just don't bloat all that bad but others like me with higher BF% do. The guy said he wanted to control bloat and I just told him Prop would be a better choice. I'm about to do a Prop/EQ/Var cycle in a few weeks myself. I've ran Omnas and Sust. myself and see so particular benefit over Test E or Cyp myself. That's just my experience though.
 
i think jetty is trying to say that you can bang out a quick 8 weeker with prop and npp and get fast good results. lean mass you will add without bloat. now if you do a long ester with the npp you are waiting longer. however, i see nothing wrong with using npp as a kicker instead of a harsh oral.

the only thing that would bloat me in that mix is the sust.
i ran npp at 75mg eod with 800mg of eq and no test, just proviron. my libido was awesome and the synergy was great. i used the npp as the eq cleared. i'd run
300mg sust ew 1-16
600mg eq ew 1-14
npp 75mg eod 1-6 12-16
i'd personally add prop for 12-16 and drop sust, so the pct comes after they are all clear. also i'd run proviron 50mg ed with it. you npp never bloats me nor does eq just long estered test. run 20mg aromasin throughout and you should be ok
 
I get fat on NPP (especially after i stopped its use), i got big on deca without the girly fat....dont know why the difference.
 
The first few times i did Deca (old Mexican stuff) I got really ripped and big. Ever since I changed brands it acts more like a test than the Deca I did years ago. I heard rumors that lots of labs just use Test in their Decas. Could this be true?
 
mikey007 said:
The first few times i did Deca (old Mexican stuff) I got really ripped and big. Ever since I changed brands it acts more like a test than the Deca I did years ago. I heard rumors that lots of labs just use Test in their Decas. Could this be true?

more likely frequent exposure to nandrolone, other androgens and estrogens, as well as age impacts it effects.

progestins are a wierd bunch.
 
mikey007 said:
The first few times i did Deca (old Mexican stuff) I got really ripped and big. Ever since I changed brands it acts more like a test than the Deca I did years ago. I heard rumors that lots of labs just use Test in their Decas. Could this be true?

Are you talking about those organon redijects? Iused those along with organon sus redijects for my first cycle and it was pure bliss. :artist:
 
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