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Hooked on pain killers, need advice.

Re: EXACTLY RIGHT !

johnboy said:


genarr hit the nail on the head, will power is where it is at. And he will be glad he toughed it out when its over.

What r u talking about will power? He has a problem, if he had will power he wouldnt need help.........Its easy for you people to sit back and say will power,just quit, cold turkey...You dont know what your talking about so dont give bad advice to someone.
 
Re: Re: EXACTLY RIGHT !

therookie said:


What r u talking about will power? He has a problem, if he had will power he wouldnt need help.........Its easy for you people to sit back and say will power,just quit, cold turkey...You dont know what your talking about so dont give bad advice to someone.

Wrong. Every lying candy ass junkie in the world wants to convince their family and friends that they can't "just stop taking them." Truth of it is - THEY DON'T WANT TO STOP TAKING THEM. The people who get clean and stay clean are the ones who realize they CAN stop taking them. There is no magic to it. There is no other answer to it.

I've seen way to many people sing the "I can't" song through endless stints in rehab. The truth of it is they don't want to stop yet.
 
therookie is right, if you don't know what you are talking about, shut your ass - this subject is no joke, cold turkey is bullshit.

"Dependency to opiates is a physical illness, and a central nervous system disorder, caused by long-term opiate-intake. After prolonged opiate use, the nerve cells in the brain, which would otherwise produce endogenous opiates, cease to function normally. The degeneration of these nerve cells results in the user's physical dependency to an external supply of opiates. Abrupt or sudden abstinence from opiate intake induces yet another traumatic disorder - withdrawal syndrome.

The withdrawal syndrome is a long and painful process, which can result in permanent damage to the cardiopulmonary system and the central nervous system. Untreated and unmonitored withdrawal can even result in death. For these reasons, opiate dependency treatment requires appropriate medical care. "
 
What, no response from the "cold turkey boys"? Maybe they're trying to find some scientific evidence that will support their bullshit comments.......Good luck!
 
This ignorant "go cold turkey!" tough guy bullshit has always pissed me off. Keep your yap shut unless you've been there, or watched someone go through some hardcore withdrawal from even something like vicodin medically and mentally.:mad:

Let me jack you up on heroin for a month straight, then stop giving you your fix "cold turkey"....see how long you can tough it out until you're crying like a bitch asking to die.
 
Go to the Doctor. They will get him off... All that Acetaminophen is hell on his liver. The doc will probably prescribe something that does not have Acetaminophen and wean him off slowly. But he has to be committed, otherwise it won’t work. Also cold turkey is not a good idea in this case. It has been to long and a physical addiction is a medical condition not a matter of mind over matter or willpower at this point. That comes latter. You have to beat the physical addiction first, then the mental addiction. In all likelyhood if he does not stop this he will suffer permanent liver damage and possibly at some point end up as a transplant patient. Acetaminophen is one of the worst drugs on the liver.
 
Hey LAt. How's it going? Haven't talked to you in a while.
How's training? You hit up a cycle yet? Sorry about your friend. I wish I had more advice to offer.
 
Recovered hydrocodone addict, sobriety date 1/12/98. Been there, done that. First of all, 3 vicodens a day is not going to cause life threatening withdrawal. However, if he is really an addict, then he is not going to admit how much he really is taking. No decent physician will treat addiction as an outpatient by giving the addict a script and telling him to taper himself off his drugs. That is hilarious. Addicts will not submit to treatment unless there is some compelling reason which is why we aren't ready till we're ready. The elevator goes way down and most people don't get off until it crashes. If your friend is addicted and wants to get off then he needs to go to his physician for referral to an inpatient drug rehab facility or present to one himself. This disease should be treated as a disease by people who understand how to get us clean and sober. I wish all the best for your friend. It is a difficult disease to live with but it is a helluva lot easier sober than when you're using.
 
Must nice to have be able to go to rehab... I was not so lucky as to not have to work and earn a living. My addition to Oxy was treated outpatient in the manor described (allot of supervision). So it is not so laughable. Not everyone can afford a 5 week 35,000 dollar inpatient program. If you can then, you are one of the lucky ones.
 
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