HMG with your TRT

[Power36]

Thanks guys....

Been holding off on doing a blast despite having some gear stocked up......been making so many great gains and getting healthier just on my TRT, if I can start HMG soon Ill stay steady than hit a blast maybe....

I have 2 vials of Masteron 200mg, plenty of 50mg var, tons of extra Test, and a bunch of Tbol......

If I did any blasts or a cycle I do not want to get any bigger....Im coming back from a ton of medical issues and layoffs, been at it like 1.5 years now I think....and now as of this week, without even trying to train heavy, doing more speed work and moderate weights with strict form.....my deadlifts this week I ended up last few sets tripling 475lbs, hang cleaning 275lbs for triples, repping 325 benches for triples for 6 sets, and for a joke one day easily squatted 315 ass to grass for 20 reps a few sets and could have maybe done 30 if my lungs were not on fire or I was risking re-injuring nagging old leg injuries......so with dropping my Test down to 180mg week on two doses the past few months, Im still making great gains...going to get dunk tanked right now to see where I am, last year was at 17.9% bodyfat, which is better than 1.5 years ago was 30%...before my medical crash I was normally 10-12% stable at 245.....dont know if Ill get there again but would love to.....but cant train as heavy, too many injuries could reoccur...

well talk to you all soon

 

[Power36]

I cant beleive it....I was 7.5% BF in dunk tank today....put on 22lbs of muscle since last may, and dropped 25 lbs of fat in the same time since last May...havent even dieted too hard either, clean on and off but not strict bodybuilding type eating....trying to stick to meat and veggies but when "stuff" comes up in life like girl or job whatever its hard for me to stick to the near keto thing....but if I get back on hoping to drop more....I was asking lady why I didnt have ripped abs, she said plenty of people under 10% dont have ripped abs, that everywhere else I am lean, only place im holding anything is midsection...and dont know if it has anythign to do with medical issues, for the 3 years I couldnt train and was deathly ill, i had sky high cortisol for a while and then it dropped off, but everything did go to my gut in that time I went to 30%...man im in shock...didnt think Id be so low primarily because I dont have shredded up abs like id think I would...but then again in the past I never had totally ripped abs even when I held 10% steady at very heavy weight like 235-245......today I was 234...

 

[layddually]

I know this is an older thread but wanted to comment. I to am on trt and trying for a kid. I tried juhcg for a while with no results so I just started using hmg the problem with hmg is there is no real data on how to use it on trt. Depending where you get it the price can get crazy.

 

[Power36]

good luck let us know how it goes...my doc said when the time comes his hunch (ok thats all I can tell ya) is that if you back off T dose a lot of totally for few months, sperm shouldnt be an issue...so you might suffer your symptoms of low T but still be better chance of having a kid... I guess Im putting a lot of trust in that....

HCG, HMG, Im a dummy dont kill me guys but would clomid help out at all? Some sort of a get off Test and try a restart on your own or be taking enough HMG and clomid is squeaks out some swimmers?

 

[XMAN.]

good luck let us know how it goes...my doc said when the time comes his hunch (ok thats all I can tell ya) is that if you back off T dose a lot of totally for few months, sperm shouldnt be an issue...so you might suffer your symptoms of low T but still be better chance of having a kid... I guess Im putting a lot of trust in that....

HCG, HMG, Im a dummy dont kill me guys but would clomid help out at all? Some sort of a get off Test and try a restart on your own or be taking enough HMG and clomid is squeaks out some swimmers?

If u want my opinion i still believe in clomid as the base of any pct or fertility protocol but in a low dose and an extended period of time like 25mg (half tab) /eod for like 6 months, u may add letro hcg or even hmg everybody has it's own opinion on that but still clomid prove itself in all studies as the main fertility drug to at least start with, imo a mix of hcg 500 iu/w and hmg 75 iu/w of course divided in 2 shots with an appropriate amount of an AI depends on the individual is the best protocol for maintaining while on hrt. If stopping hrt and trying to restart ur natty production u may bump these doses the first couple of weeks as a boost but no very high doses of hcg and hmg specially like when some ppl do 5000 iu shots and repeatedly they end up desensitizing themselves and making things worst, an example for a pct or a restart would be hcg 500 iu and hmg 75 iu /ed for the first 10 days and that's enough, and continue with the maintenance protocol of twice a week while on clomid and letro too.
Now for AI's it's an individual thing but i see most ppl benefits with the least sides with 1 tab of letro/w (2 halves) at max to maintain a fair low estro count.

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