Hitlery won PA. :)

[rykertest]

I'm kinda glad. I despise hitlery, but I would much rather have her that obama as a hypothetical president. Whats the world coming too when Hitlery is a breath of fresh air on the dem side. lol Frigin eh.

 

[HAYEZ]

shes a cunt,obamas a racist...fuck them both

 

[rykertest]

shes a cunt,obamas a racist...fuck them both

I agree. Plus the longer this dem battle goes on the better it is for the GOP.

 

[75th]

Better her than Obama...I concur.

 

[rykertest]

Better her than Obama...I concur.

And it was so.

 

[Raptorex]

neither has a chance, mute point.

 

[bigmann245]

neither one will win......

 

[rykertest]

neither has a chance, mute point.

I really want to beleive that. Then I see all these obama worshippers and I see how blind people are. I must admit that I am VERY nervous about Obama. Not because he is a strong candidate. He is totally lacking any substance. But he is a smooth talker and really knows how to inspire people. But thats where it ends. Big talk means nothing and I think there are too many ignorant americans that will fall for his sweet talk and vote for him.

I just pray people wake up in time. This is the guy that will be picking possibly 2 supreme court justices that will affect this country for a lot longer than he is in office.

 

[Raptorex]

It always appears that a candidate is more popular within the primary because they are playing to their base (so let's say he has 50% of 1/2 the electorate, eventually, in the general election he could easily lose by 8-10% which is a landslide (see McGovern and Dukakis candidacy's for precidence).

I really want to beleive that. Then I see all these obama worshippers and I see how blind people are. I must admit that I am VERY nervous about Obama. Not because he is a strong candidate. He is totally lacking any substance. But he is a smooth talker and really knows how to inspire people. But thats where it ends. Big talk means nothing and I think there are too many ignorant americans that will fall for his sweet talk and vote for him.

I just pray people wake up in time. This is the guy that will be picking possibly 2 supreme court justices that will affect this country for a lot longer than he is in office.

 

[binö]

shes a cunt,obamas a racist...fuck them both

you must be a latino, only latinos lay the racist card at obama.
infighting amongst minorities plays right into white hands

 

[SpyWizard]

it's like gangs and crack, as long as they are killing each other, we don't care.. sad but true..

 

[HAYEZ]

you must be a latino, only latinos lay the racist card at obama.
infighting amongst minorities plays right into white hands

incorrect...you based that on the z at the end... lmao theres more to it

 

[binö]

it's like gangs and crack, as long as they are killing each other, we don't care.. sad but true..

it's kinda nice not being blamed for every ill in the country...instead of "white devil/pussy-ass crackas" it's more black vs brown.

 

[redsamurai]

I just pray people wake up in time. This is the guy that will be picking possibly 2 supreme court justices that will affect this country for a lot longer than he is in office.

perish the thought of him picking supreme court justices who may actually "not" chip away at our civil liberties year by year.......like the current crop of fags.

 

[Raptorex]

redsam, you puzzle me sometimes - you question America's propping up of Israel - do you realize the percent of lawyers in the USA that are Jewish? If so, do you think they have any influence on American politics? I'm not saying its good or bad, you just puzzle me sometimes.

 

[bigmann245]

It always appears that a candidate is more popular within the primary because they are playing to their base (so let's say he has 50% of 1/2 the electorate, eventually, in the general election he could easily lose by 8-10% which is a landslide (see McGovern and Dukakis candidacy's for precidence).

this is what ive been telling everyone. this same thing has happened 3 times in the history of the run for office and all 3 times the dems have lost. they are so divided between their candidates that when one wins the nomination the others supporters change and vote for someone else rather than the nominated dem.

 

[Razorguns]

media and the public loves a race - nuff said.

r

 

[Longhorn85]

neither has a chance, mute point.

The phrase is "moot" point, FYI, but I disagree that it is that.

I don't want to see Hillary run in the General. I am tired of seeing her on TV. I am hoping Obama can pull this thing out.

From a democrat perspective though, the best possible solution is probably a Hill/Obama ticket, then Obama couild pick it up when she is done.

 

[silverstar1025]

Better her than Obama...I concur.

+1

 

[Smurfy]

shes going down in a blaze of glory

 

[rykertest]

perish the thought of him picking supreme court justices who may actually "not" chip away at our civil liberties year by year.......like the current crop of fags.

I used to think you had a brain about you, but you prove me wrong.

 

[Mr. dB]

The phrase is "moot" point, FYI, but I disagree that it is that.

I don't want to see Hillary run in the General. I am tired of seeing her on TV. I am hoping Obama can pull this thing out.

From a democrat perspective though, the best possible solution is probably a Hill/Obama ticket, then Obama couild pick it up when she is done.

Maybe by then he'd have some real-world experience.

 

[binö]

redsam, you puzzle me sometimes - you question America's propping up of Israel - do you realize the percent of lawyers in the USA that are Jewish? If so, do you think they have any influence on American politics? I'm not saying its good or bad, you just puzzle me sometimes.

agreed.
but he's canada's problem now...

 

[MichaelScott]

id vote for hilary i am repub but i think mccain will lose it and bomb everyone

 

[Spartacus]

she's about to pull off the near impossible

 

[biteme]

Go Obama! The repubs are about to go down. hahahaha

 

[Smurfy]

agreed.
but he's canada's problem now...

lol

 

[hyp1]

id vote for hilary i am repub but i think mccain will lose it and bomb everyone

+2

that or keep or asses in Iraq indefinitely,while our economy keeps going in the shitter.

 

[jestro]

+2

that or keep or asses in Iraq indefinitely,while our economy keeps going in the shitter.

Bingo. WE can't fix Iraq. While their soldiers know we've got their back, they'll desert before going into serious combat.

 

[Razorguns]

+2

that or keep or asses in Iraq indefinitely,while our economy keeps going in the shitter.

All it will take is one more terrorist attack on US soil, and BOOM, everyone's back on the 'kill those ragheads!' 2003 phase.

people are sheep. easy to maniuplate.

9/11 was a godsend for the oil and defense industries.

r

 

[Spartacus]

+2

that or keep or asses in Iraq indefinitely,while our economy keeps going in the shitter.

we've been in korea indefinitely
we were in western europe for half a century

to me having a chunk of our military situated in the middle east is a far better cost-benefit deal than either of those above

 

[hyp1]

we've been in korea indefinitely
we were in western europe for half a century

to me having a chunk of our military situated in the middle east is a far better cost-benefit deal than either of those above

the only problem with that is that korea,and western europe occupation didn't throw our economy in the shitter,costing us thousands upon thousands of US military lives and running into the estimated trillions-hence the economy in the shitter remark.

 

[rykertest]

we've been in korea indefinitely
we were in western europe for half a century

to me having a chunk of our military situated in the middle east is a far better cost-benefit deal than either of those above

Why are we even in korea anymore? We should leave that joint NOW.

 

[Spartacus]

9/11 was a godsend for the oil and defense industries.

r

India and China are the oil godsends

 

[Spartacus]

the only problem with that is that korea,and western europe occupation didn't throw our economy in the shitter,costing us thousands upon thousands of US military lives and running into the estimated trillions-hence the economy in the shitter remark.

this war is costing 1% of GDP
in comparison the vietnam conflict ran 10% of GDP
this is a cheap war

the subprime fiasco is what's troubling the economy

as far as cost in lives
noone lives forever
dont join the military if you cant accept dying in a war

 

[rykertest]

this war is costing 1% of GDP
in comparison the vietnam conflict ran 10% of GDP
this is a cheap war

the subprime fiasco is what's troubling the economy

as far as cost in lives
noone lives forever
dont join the military if you cant accept dying in a war

Yeah thats the reality of it. You are signing up to be put in harms way. That should be really thought about long and hard before joining.

 

[Spartacus]

I buried an 82nd airborne trooper back in october 2005
he had been QB of the football team (I think they lost the state championship game to MTV's profiled Hoover)

we've won two consecutive state championships since and have a 31 game winning streak
top 10 in the nation football program

 

[Mr. dB]

we've been in korea indefinitely
we were in western europe for half a century

to me having a chunk of our military situated in the middle east is a far better cost-benefit deal than either of those above

Yeah, but don't Korea and WE give us money for that?

 

[75th]

the only problem with that is that korea,and western europe occupation didn't throw our economy in the shitter,costing us thousands upon thousands of US military lives and running into the estimated trillions-hence the economy in the shitter remark.

The current state of our economy has little to nothing to do with the cost of the war.

 

[Longhorn85]

she's about to pull off the near impossible

I've got some k riding on it.

 

[Mavafanculo]

The current state of our economy has little to nothing to do with the cost of the war.

If those billions had been put to short and long-term stimulus use, what would have been the result?

 

[75th]

If those billions had been put to short and long-term stimulus use, what would have been the result?

Nothing immediate. Besides, this stimulus package is more than 3 times larger than the package issued in 1990 and 2001...when we were actually in a bad recession.

 

[Mavafanculo]

Nothing immediate. Besides, this stimulus package is more than 3 times larger than the package issued in 1990 and 2001...when we were actually in a bad recession.

go back to 2003.

instead of the billions put into iraq each month, invest the amount in ST and LT stimulus every month to the present.

now back to 2008.

would the economy be better or worse off?

 

[75th]

go back to 2003.

instead of the billions put into iraq each month, invest the amount in ST and LT stimulus every month to the present.

now back to 2008.

would the economy be better or worse off?

Let me answer the question with another question:

What would have compelled the US government to issue stimulus packages in a year that started one of the greatest economic expansions in history? Using that logic, we should argue that JFK should have started issuing stimulus packages instead of sending people into Vietnam. Or, excuse me, "advisors." Or why dont we suspend economic aid to Saudi Arabia, Israel, every country in Africa, etc. We waste much more money there than we do on Iraq.

Im with you on the war. However, the current economic climate has nothing to do with spending money on a retarded war, but rather has everything to do with the ignorance of a lot of lower class citizens as well as the greed of a lot of people in the finance/lending industries.

 

[Mavafanculo]

Let me answer the question with another question:

What would have compelled the US government to issue stimulus packages in a year that started one of the greatest economic expansions in history? Using that logic, we should argue that JFK should have started issuing stimulus packages instead of sending people into Vietnam. Or, excuse me, "advisors." Or why dont we suspend economic aid to Saudi Arabia, Israel, every country in Africa, etc. We waste much more money there than we do on Iraq.

Im with you on the war. However, the current economic climate has nothing to do with spending money on a retarded war, but rather has everything to do with the ignorance of a lot of lower class citizens as well as the greed of a lot of people in the finance/lending industries.

I will answer your non-answer of my question with a question, with another question.

How come horses and rabbits both eat hay, but the horse drops huge piles of crap and the rabbits shits little tiny pellets.

now answer my original question lol.

instead of breakdown maintenence (ok now the economys broke, lets fix it), how about responsible investment in long term items like infrastructure and education, and oh yeah health insurance and finding alternative energy sources.

nope -- they fed the portfolio for The carylse group and their buds at haliburton instead

 

[75th]

I will answer your non-answer of my question with a question, with another question.

How come horses and rabbits both eat hay, but the horse drops huge piles of crap and the rabbits shits little tiny pellets.

now answer my original question lol.

instead of breakdown maintenence (ok now the economys broke, lets fix it), how about responsible investment in long term items like infrastructure and education, and oh yeah health insurance and finding alternative energy sources.

nope -- they fed the portfolio for The carylse group and their buds at haliburton instead

Well now youre talking about all kinds of different stuff. Yes, the money used on the war would be better served here at home. As would 99% of the aid we give to the world.

That still doesnt change the fact that our current economic slowdown was not directly caused by government spending on the war.