Hit a plateau 1st cycle

[surferstar]

hey guys
stats
6'2" 180 was 165 , always was a hardgainer, I shocked the food into my body hit weights hard and gained 15lbs. Now i've hit a plateau. Last 4 months stayed same changed workouts eat great but hit a wall, like most of you probally have.

want to start this cycle. Just want a simple cycle to see how I react but have good gains and keep.

1st cycle
Test E 8-10WK 250mg 2x wk (500mg/wk)
PCT
now heres where im not thorogh
should i start the PCT's 5-7 days after or 2 weeks after
And that would be Nolva and clomid
Hcg mid cycle? or after like rest

Also being that i'm only taking the test, do I really need the clomid or will Hcg and Nolva be sufficient so it will be like this?

HCG every 5 days 5000IU / 2500IU / 2500IU / 1500 / 1500
Nolva ? not 100% sure rather get input than post on this one.

 

[BOWTECH]

First off you need to do some more research before you even think about doing a cycle. Test e is a long acting ester, which means you need to wait to begin your pct or it will be a waste. Read up in the pct forum. Im not trying to bust your balls but you need to have all the info before you start your cycle. By the way what is your age? Also what does your diet look like? How many grams of protein/day. Just trying to help.

 

[surferstar]

First off you need to do some more research before you even think about doing a cycle. Test e is a long acting ester, which means you need to wait to begin your pct or it will be a waste. Read up in the pct forum. Im not trying to bust your balls but you need to have all the info before you start your cycle. By the way what is your age? Also what does your diet look like? How many grams of protein/day. Just trying to help.

I agree it takes a few weeks for it to kick it, PCT is post for after, just asking how long 1 week or 2 weeks to start them after the cycle and if i needed clomid along with HCG and Nolva,

I'm 23
@ 4,000 cal diet
2g pro / lb

 

[mr.gooliepapper]

I did test enathanate for my first cycle but I chose to add some d-bol in the beggining just to kick things off. My cycle went like this and I was very pleased with it:
weeks 1-8 test enanthate (600 mg per week)
weeks 1-4 d-bol (30-40 mg per day)
pct:
clomid 300mg day 1 200 mg day 2-4 100 mg day 5-8 and 50 mg 9-21

I also took some milk thisstle for my liver because the d bol is pretty harsh on the liver.
Anyways hope this helps and hope you enjoy your first cycle. You wont be a hard gainer for long

I agree it takes a few weeks for it to kick it, PCT is post for after, just asking how long 1 week or 2 weeks to start them after the cycle and if i needed clomid along with HCG and Nolva,

I'm 23
@ 4,000 cal diet
2g pro / lb

 

[BOWTECH]

I agree it takes a few weeks for it to kick it, PCT is post for after, just asking how long 1 week or 2 weeks to start them after the cycle and if i needed clomid along with HCG and Nolva,

I'm 23
@ 4,000 cal diet
2g pro / lb

2 weeks for clomid. You can use hcg on last week of inj. But probably won't need to.

 

[mr.gooliepapper]

Bowtechs right you won't need hcg with this cycle it would be a waste of money. The clomid will do you right

 

[surferstar]

Bowtechs right you won't need hcg with this cycle it would be a waste of money. The clomid will do you right

Perfect help thanks guys. Karma to both of you.