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history and compilation of the Quran

bani-malik

Banned
when Abu Baker was khalif
According to some scholars, during the life of Muhammad parts of the Qur'an, though written, were scattered amongst his companions, much of it as private possession. After Muhammad's death, Abu Bakr initially exercised a policy of laissez faire as well. This policy was reversed after the Battle of Yamama in 633. During the battle, 700 Muslims who had memorized the Qur'an were killed. The death of Sālim, however, was most significant, as he was one of the very few who had been entrusted by Muhammad to teach the Qur'an. Consequently, upon Umar's insistence, Abu Bakr ordered the collection of the hitherto scattered pieces of the Qur'an into one copy.

when Uthman ibn Affan became khalif the Caliphate was expanding bringing in more Arabic accents from other regions

By the time of the caliphate of Uthman ibn Affan, there was a perceived need for the clarification of the reading of the Qur'an. The Caliphate had grown considerably, expanding into Iraq, Syria, Egypt, and Iran, bringing into Islam's fold many new converts from various cultures with varying degrees of isolation.[24] These converts spoke a variety of languages but were not well learned in Arabic, and so Uthman felt it was important to standardize the written text of the Qur'an into one specific Arabic dialect. Another reason for compiling the Qur'an was that many of the Muslim Huffadh (those Muslims who had memorised the Qur'an in its entirety) were dying, especially in battle.

According to the dominant version narrated by Sahih al-Bukhari, the reason for the final collection of the Qur'an was a dispute between Muslim forces from Iraq and Syria over the correct way of reciting it during communal prayers while on an expedition to Armenia and Azerbaijan.[3]

It is believed that the general Ḥud̲h̲ayfa b. al-Yaman reported this problem to the caliph and asked him to establish a unified text. According to the history of al-Tabari, during the expedition there were 10,000 Kufan warriors, 6,000 in Azerbaijan and 4,000 at Rayy.[25] If there was disagreement amongst such a vast number of soldiers on the correct way of reciting the Qur'an, it is understandable why Ḥud̲h̲ayfa b. al-Yaman pushed for a unified text. An example of the confusion at this time is seen during a campaign in Tabaristan, where one of the soldiers asked, Ḥud̲h̲ayfa “How did the Messenger of God pray?” Ḥud̲h̲ayfa told him the soldier prayed before fighting.[26]

It is believed upon Ḥud̲h̲ayfa’s request ʿUt̲h̲mān obtained the sheets of the Qur'an from Ḥafṣa (prophet Mohammeds SAWs wife) and appointed a commission consisting of Zayd b. T̲h̲ābit and three prominent Meccans, and instructed them to copy the sheets into several volumes based on the dialect of Qurays̲h̲, the main tribe of Mecca.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Quran
 
Cool story.

Tell it again.
 
Stupidest question ever. That was what, 1400 years ago?

Completely different epoch and culture.

You ignorant piece of shit.

So you condone this behaviour. True colours always reveal themselves. personally i do not believe any religions originating from the middle east.
 
But why did muhammad marry a 9 year old when he was in his 50s?

Aisha RAA was the daughter of Abu Baker Al-sedeek the first Khalif....he was very rich and powerful he brought in many people important people in to Islam....the marriage was to strengthen the ties between them....just like Richard the Lion heart when he was fighting Saladin to capture Jerusalem Richard lost his horse....even though they were fighting each other...they respected each other so Saladin sent him 2 horses to replace it and than Richard offered his sister to marry Saladins brother and told him Jerusalem can be our wedding gift....but they never met each other face to face and it never happened....so....this was just how they use to do it back then
 
So you condone this behaviour. True colours always reveal themselves. personally i do not believe any religions originating from the middle east.

Again, you're a fucking retard.

Would I condone this behavior?

Stfu, you flaming cumdrunk priss.
 
Again, you're a fucking retard.

Would I condone this behavior?

Stfu, you flaming cumdrunk priss.


I dont blame people like him asking those kind of questions....lots of things took place after the prophet Mohammed SAW passed away and we became divided and started fighting each other....even Aisha RAA her self rebelled against against the government when Ali became Khalif....she was the military commander during the battle of the camel....and as a result...some of the Muslims back then hated her who are now the shia sect....and they start fabricating hadiths....and now a large number of Muslims take the hadiths as the actual word of God.....when the Quran itself says that its not

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6. These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (Hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe?

statement in Arabic means Hadith
 
No one has read a single post of yours in this thread

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1.Indeed, We sent Noah to his people, [saying], "Warn your people before there comes to them a painful punishment."

2.He said, "O my people, indeed I am to you a clear warner,

3.[Saying], 'Worship Allah , fear Him and obey me.

4.Allah will forgive you of your sins and delay you for a specified term. Indeed, the time [set by] Allah , when it comes, will not be delayed, if you only knew.' "

5.He said, "My Lord, indeed I invited my people [to truth] night and day.

6.But my invitation increased them not except in flight.

7.And indeed, every time I invited them that You may forgive them, they put their fingers in their ears, covered themselves with their garments, persisted, and were arrogant with [great] arrogance.

8.Then I invited them publicly.

9.Then I announced to them and [also] confided to them secretly

10.And said, 'Ask forgiveness of your Lord. Indeed, He is ever a Perpetual Forgiver.
 
I am the devil and I'm here to do the devil's work.

Oh, and it's *you're

6
112. And thus We have made for every prophet an enemy - devils from mankind and jinn, inspiring to one another decorative speech in delusion. But if your Lord had willed, they would not have done it, so leave them and that which they invent.
 
Interesting post if what you are writing is true and not taken from a children's book.

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1. Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion upon His Servant that he may be to the worlds a warner -

2. He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and who has not taken a son and has not had a partner in dominion and has created each thing and determined it with [precise] determination.

3. But they have taken besides Him gods which create nothing, while they are created, and possess not for themselves any harm or benefit and possess not [power to cause] death or life or resurrection.

4. And those who disbelieve say, "This [Qur'an] is not except a falsehood he invented, and another people assisted him in it." But they have committed an injustice and a lie.

5. And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."

6. Say, [O Muhammad], "It has been revealed by He who knows [every] secret within the heavens and the earth. Indeed, He is ever Forgiving and Merciful."
 
I follow the teachings of Wirathu.

If western nations had any balls they would follow too..

969 movement

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/969_Movement

“You can be full of kindness and love, but you cannot sleep next to a mad dog,” Wirathu said, referring to Muslims. “If we are weak,” he said, “our land will become Muslim.”[2]
 
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1. Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion upon His Servant that he may be to the worlds a warner -

2. He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and who has not taken a son and has not had a partner in dominion and has created each thing and determined it with [precise] determination.

3. But they have taken besides Him gods which create nothing, while they are created, and possess not for themselves any harm or benefit and possess not [power to cause] death or life or resurrection.

4. And those who disbelieve say, "This [Qur'an] is not except a falsehood he invented, and another people assisted him in it." But they have committed an injustice and a lie.

5. And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."

6. Say, [O Muhammad], "It has been revealed by He who knows [every] secret within the heavens and the earth. Indeed, He is ever Forgiving and Merciful."

Is there an English version of the Quran?
 
reply to hala 1

Muslims in China

Islam in China has existed through 1,400 years of continuous interaction with Chinese society.
According to Chinese Muslims' traditional legendary accounts, Islam was first introduced in China in 616-18 AD by Sahaba (companions) of Prophet Muhammad: Sa`d ibn Abi Waqqas, Sayid, Wahab ibn Abu Kabcha and another Sahaba.

Ming Dynasty

During the following Ming Dynasty, Muslims continued to be influential around government circles. Six of Ming Dynasty founder Zhu Yuanzhang's most trusted generals are said to have been Muslim, including Lan Yu who, in 1388, led a strong imperial Ming army out of the Great Wall and won a decisive victory over the Mongols in Mongolia, effectively ending the Mongol dream to re-conquer China. Zhu Yuanzhang also wrote a praise of Islam, the The Hundred-word Eulogy. It was recorded that "His Majesty ordered to have mosques built in Xijing and Nanjing [the capital cities], and in southern Yunnan, Fujian and Guangdong. His Majesty also personally wrote baizizan [a eulogy] in praise of the Prophet's virtues."

its on wikki but cant post websites now....weird cuz just a few minutes ago I was able to

you tube {The Ten Muslim Generals of the Republic of China (1930s)}

Muslim Chinese soldiers camouflaged themselves with sheep skin in the snow and ambushed Russian machine gunners using sword....and engaged the Russians in hand to hand combat and rolled their armored cars off the mountain with their bare hands
 
Not convincing. Sure you could find the same for any religion.

Not meant to convince. If you want to believe in arab fairy tales, that is your business. It's not like I am going to declare you an infidel who should be beheaded while one of my 4 twelve year old circumsized wives makes me a sandwich.
 
Not meant to convince. If you want to believe in arab fairy tales, that is your business. It's not like I am going to declare you an infidel who should be beheaded while one of my 4 twelve year old circumsized wives makes me a sandwich.

That's my point, all religions are a compilation of fairy tales.
 
Honestly... your people have fucked everything up for you. 9/11? Murdering thousands of people in the name of your false prophet, and a bullshit God?!?! Christians no longer go around killing people like they did during the crusades. They operate soup kitchens to feed and help the homeless, and do mission work to build schools and churches where others can be helped. The Quran is a book that can be interpreted to mean anything you ass holes want. It's ok to marry little girls? Islam is about control, and power. Honestly.... you bastards are like cave men. Unable to evolve, or adapt. For gods sake.... you wear fucking dresses, and towels on your heads. And your Unable to see past yourselves. So..... if you are a Muslim. ... I want nothing to do with you. If you try to speak to me about your bullshit religion or how you justify raping little girls, or cutting people's heads off, then I fucking hate you. Don't try to tell me your Quran is a book of peace. It's a book of lies compiled by a group of criminals, and pedophiles. The only thing I want to know about Islam is, why you motherfuckers never shower. You have the nastiest body odor. You're dirty as fuck. All of the time.
The only way to solve the islam/muslim problem is to look at it as a disease. A cancer of the planet, and eradicate it. I am to the point that I believe the the middle east should be flattend, and melted into a glass bowl with nukes. The rest of you fuck tards should be shot on site. Fuck all Muslims! !!
 
Honestly... your people have fucked everything up for you. 9/11? Murdering thousands of people in the name of your false prophet, and a bullshit God?!?! Christians no longer go around killing people like they did during the crusades. They operate soup kitchens to feed and help the homeless, and do mission work to build schools and churches where others can be helped. The Quran is a book that can be interpreted to mean anything you ass holes want. It's ok to marry little girls? Islam is about control, and power. Honestly.... you bastards are like cave men. Unable to evolve, or adapt. For gods sake.... you wear fucking dresses, and towels on your heads. And your Unable to see past yourselves. So..... if you are a Muslim. ... I want nothing to do with you. If you try to speak to me about your bullshit religion or how you justify raping little girls, or cutting people's heads off, then I fucking hate you. Don't try to tell me your Quran is a book of peace. It's a book of lies compiled by a group of criminals, and pedophiles. The only thing I want to know about Islam is, why you motherfuckers never shower. You have the nastiest body odor. You're dirty as fuck. All of the time.
The only way to solve the islam/muslim problem is to look at it as a disease. A cancer of the planet, and eradicate it. I am to the point that I believe the the middle east should be flattend, and melted into a glass bowl with nukes. The rest of you fuck tards should be shot on site. Fuck all Muslims! !!


You know shit about the oil patch faggot
 
Honestly... your people have fucked everything up for you. 9/11? Murdering thousands of people in the name of your false prophet, and a bullshit God?!?! Christians no longer go around killing people like they did during the crusades. They operate soup kitchens to feed and help the homeless, and do mission work to build schools and churches where others can be helped. The Quran is a book that can be interpreted to mean anything you ass holes want. It's ok to marry little girls? Islam is about control, and power. Honestly.... you bastards are like cave men. Unable to evolve, or adapt. For gods sake.... you wear fucking dresses, and towels on your heads. And your Unable to see past yourselves. So..... if you are a Muslim. ... I want nothing to do with you. If you try to speak to me about your bullshit religion or how you justify raping little girls, or cutting people's heads off, then I fucking hate you. Don't try to tell me your Quran is a book of peace. It's a book of lies compiled by a group of criminals, and pedophiles. The only thing I want to know about Islam is, why you motherfuckers never shower. You have the nastiest body odor. You're dirty as fuck. All of the time.
The only way to solve the islam/muslim problem is to look at it as a disease. A cancer of the planet, and eradicate it. I am to the point that I believe the the middle east should be flattend, and melted into a glass bowl with nukes. The rest of you fuck tards should be shot on site. Fuck all Muslims! !!


You mad bro?
 
Honestly... your people have fucked everything up for you. 9/11? Murdering thousands of people in the name of your false prophet, and a bullshit God?!?! Christians no longer go around killing people like they did during the crusades. They operate soup kitchens to feed and help the homeless, and do mission work to build schools and churches where others can be helped. The Quran is a book that can be interpreted to mean anything you ass holes want. It's ok to marry little girls? Islam is about control, and power. Honestly.... you bastards are like cave men. Unable to evolve, or adapt. For gods sake.... you wear fucking dresses, and towels on your heads. And your Unable to see past yourselves. So..... if you are a Muslim. ... I want nothing to do with you. If you try to speak to me about your bullshit religion or how you justify raping little girls, or cutting people's heads off, then I fucking hate you. Don't try to tell me your Quran is a book of peace. It's a book of lies compiled by a group of criminals, and pedophiles. The only thing I want to know about Islam is, why you motherfuckers never shower. You have the nastiest body odor. You're dirty as fuck. All of the time.
The only way to solve the islam/muslim problem is to look at it as a disease. A cancer of the planet, and eradicate it. I am to the point that I believe the the middle east should be flattend, and melted into a glass bowl with nukes. The rest of you fuck tards should be shot on site. Fuck all Muslims! !!

*assholes

*Gods'

*you're

*flattened

*sight
 
Honestly... your people have fucked everything up for you. 9/11? Murdering thousands of people in the name of your false prophet, and a bullshit God?!?! Christians no longer go around killing people like they did during the crusades. They operate soup kitchens to feed and help the homeless, and do mission work to build schools and churches where others can be helped. The Quran is a book that can be interpreted to mean anything you ass holes want. It's ok to marry little girls? Islam is about control, and power. Honestly.... you bastards are like cave men. Unable to evolve, or adapt. For gods sake.... you wear fucking dresses, and towels on your heads. And your Unable to see past yourselves. So..... if you are a Muslim. ... I want nothing to do with you. If you try to speak to me about your bullshit religion or how you justify raping little girls, or cutting people's heads off, then I fucking hate you. Don't try to tell me your Quran is a book of peace. It's a book of lies compiled by a group of criminals, and pedophiles. The only thing I want to know about Islam is, why you motherfuckers never shower. You have the nastiest body odor. You're dirty as fuck. All of the time.
The only way to solve the islam/muslim problem is to look at it as a disease. A cancer of the planet, and eradicate it. I am to the point that I believe the the middle east should be flattend, and melted into a glass bowl with nukes. The rest of you fuck tards should be shot on site. Fuck all Muslims! !!

What about the christian drug cartels in Mexico? they worship Santa Muerte the Cult of holy death.....

They conduct hundreds of beheadings, decapitations, have killed over
57 journalists since 2006, they capture and traffic women(make them sex
slaves). They have killed 293 Americans in Mexico from 2007 to 2010 and
have repeatedly attacked U.S. consulates in Mexico. From 2006 to 2010 as
many as 5,700 Americans were killed in the U.S. by cartel-fueled drug
violence and they also have their own narco gospel, which derives from
Catholicism/Christianity. All Terrorism against innocent
people is bad so don't you guys think the Media should also report on
this non-stop Terrorism that's really a threat. This Terrorist
organization is killing so many innocent people. Why don't they report
on it wall to wall coverage and have the world come together to put a
stop to it?

"in 2013 drug cartels murdered more than 16,000 people in Mexico alone,
and another 60,000 from 2006 to 2012 — a rate of more than one killing
every half hour for the last seven years. What is worse, these are
estimates from the Mexican government, which is known to deflate the
actual death toll by about 50 percent." "A good deal of the
cartels’ violence is perpetrated ritualistically as part of their
religion, which is centered, quite literally, on the worship of death.
The narcos build and support churches all across Mexico to perpetuate
their eschatology. One of the cartels, the Knights Templar (whose name
evokes religious warfare), even boasts about its leader’s death and
resurrection. When cartel members are killed, they are buried in lavish
mausoleums, regarded as martyrs and commemorated in popular songs
glorifying their exploits in all their brutality. Many of their members
view the “martyrs” as heroes who died resisting an international order
that exploits Latin America and fighting the feckless governments that
enable it. The cartels see their role as compensating for state failures
in governance. The narco gospel, which derives from Catholicism, is
swiftly making inroads in the United States and Central America. In
short, the cartels’ ideological disposition is no less pronounced than
ISIL’s, if not worse."

america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/10/isil-vs-mexican-drugcartelsunitedstatesislamophobia.html?utm_content=opinion&utm_campaign=ajam&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow
 
What about the christian drug cartels in Mexico? they worship Santa Muerte the Cult of holy death.....

They conduct hundreds of beheadings, decapitations, have killed over
57 journalists since 2006, they capture and traffic women(make them sex
slaves). They have killed 293 Americans in Mexico from 2007 to 2010 and
have repeatedly attacked U.S. consulates in Mexico. From 2006 to 2010 as
many as 5,700 Americans were killed in the U.S. by cartel-fueled drug
violence and they also have their own narco gospel, which derives from
Catholicism/Christianity. All Terrorism against innocent
people is bad so don't you guys think the Media should also report on
this non-stop Terrorism that's really a threat. This Terrorist
organization is killing so many innocent people. Why don't they report
on it wall to wall coverage and have the world come together to put a
stop to it?

"in 2013 drug cartels murdered more than 16,000 people in Mexico alone,
and another 60,000 from 2006 to 2012 — a rate of more than one killing
every half hour for the last seven years. What is worse, these are
estimates from the Mexican government, which is known to deflate the
actual death toll by about 50 percent." "A good deal of the
cartels’ violence is perpetrated ritualistically as part of their
religion, which is centered, quite literally, on the worship of death.
The narcos build and support churches all across Mexico to perpetuate
their eschatology. One of the cartels, the Knights Templar (whose name
evokes religious warfare), even boasts about its leader’s death and
resurrection. When cartel members are killed, they are buried in lavish
mausoleums, regarded as martyrs and commemorated in popular songs
glorifying their exploits in all their brutality. Many of their members
view the “martyrs” as heroes who died resisting an international order
that exploits Latin America and fighting the feckless governments that
enable it. The cartels see their role as compensating for state failures
in governance. The narco gospel, which derives from Catholicism, is
swiftly making inroads in the United States and Central America. In
short, the cartels’ ideological disposition is no less pronounced than
ISIL’s, if not worse."

america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/10/isil-vs-mexican-drugcartelsunitedstatesislamophobia.html?utm_content=opinion&utm_campaign=ajam&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow

just another group of swarthy pieces of shit...stick'em in a dress and throw a towel on their head and viola...fucking bunch of retards...all of yinz...
 
on a lighter note...i did some directional drilling...friday night and saturday night, both! not bad for a 50 y/o desk-jockey :D
 
Actually they are part of North America. Get a globe, ya stinky, falafel eating dune coon.

oh jeezuz :FRlol:

that racial epithet never loses any of its charm

you know what wood be really funny? if this guy is a puddle monkey alter and he's fucking with us :lmao:
 
You just deny his claim that he is Jehovah, YHWH, Allah, etc. and put Mohammed above him.

Therefore you deny Christ.

been a while perused the bible but, my recollection is that jc was a pretty humble dude...i don't recall running around making all those claims :confused:
 
You just deny his claim that he is Jehovah, YHWH, Allah, etc. and put Mohammed above him.

Therefore you deny Christ.

Why the fuck won't you change your avi I'm so fuckin sick of lookin at that shit you bloated turd bowl wtf is wrong with you, I've seen caribou shits (ie bani Malik or the book of mormon) that look better than that, there's no reason for u to ever take your shirt off no wonder you were a virgin for so long
 
Why the fuck won't you change your avi? I'm so fuckin sick of lookin at that shit you bloated turd bowl! Wtf is wrong with you? I've seen caribou shits (ie bani Malik or the book of mormon) that look better than that...there's no reason for u to ever take your shirt off! No wonder you were a virgin for so long!

you're welcome, pokey
 
You just deny his claim that he is Jehovah, YHWH, Allah, etc. and put Mohammed above him.

Therefore you deny Christ.


"And the ones who have believed in Allah and His Messengers and have made no distinction between any of them, those He will eventually bring them their rewards, and Allah has been Ever-Forgiving, Ever-Merciful." (An-Nisaa’ 4:152)


 
the Pakistani government.....I dont know what the fuck is wrong with them.....they caught someone eating dead bodies....TWICE....and they let him go cuz they dont know what to charge him with......
this area....Pakistan and Afghanistan.....its been in their culture for thousands of years....dancing little boys......the Taliban kills them on the spot....everybody that was involved.....and than the media would say....look.....they killed them just for dancing......and when they dont get caught.....look....look at their homosexual activities
 
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