High Rep Squats

[JL_204]

The other day i did 20 rep squats for an experiment just to see how it was and damn is it hard. Im used to doing squats in the 5 rep range and even that is taxing.
I think im gonna stick with higher rep squats for awhile and then switch back to low reps in my next 5x5 cycle.
Does anyone else do high reps here for squats???
It takes a different kind of person to do high reps on squats IMO. After 15 reps your body is telling you to quit but your mind wont let it.

 

[Tweakle]

I've done them a few times.. last time was 385 x 20

I won't ever go over 10 reps in the squat because the high reps encourage form problems when you're grinding out those last reps. combine that with a fatigued lower back and it's an accident waiting to happen (or in my case a hamstring waiting to pop)

 

[kiosk]

damn, thats the exact same reason why I quit doing 20 reps squats....after 15 reps my form was a mess, and all I wanted to do was finish the dam set and rack the weights....forgettin all about form, which is a bad, bad idea.

 

[JL_204]

I've done them a few times.. last time was 385 x 20

I won't ever go over 10 reps in the squat because the high reps encourage form problems when you're grinding out those last reps. combine that with a fatigued lower back and it's an accident waiting to happen (or in my case a hamstring waiting to pop)

Yeah i hear what your saying. I havent been going crazy heavy or anything. I guess ill have to keep the wieght moderate and be very careful.

 

[psychedout]

Jesus, 385x20? Impressive tweakle.

I actually 20 rep squat quite religuously. I even went so far as to 'fuck with the squat' in madcows 5x5 LoL.

Anywho, I love the 20 reppers. They give you some growth, endurance, explosive power, and a good base. I also don't need the growth I got from 5 rep squats as I am tired on dropping money on new jeans.

 

[JL_204]

Jesus, 385x20? Impressive tweakle.

I actually 20 rep squat quite religuously. I even went so far as to 'fuck with the squat' in madcows 5x5 LoL.

Anywho, I love the 20 reppers. They give you some growth, endurance, explosive power, and a good base. I also don't need the growth I got from 5 rep squats as I am tired on dropping money on new jeans.

The reason im doing the 20 rep squats is to build somemore endurance in my legs for muay thai and BJJ training. I want to switch back and forth for power and endurance.
Did you find that your form started to go bad ever?????

 

[JumpBallWinner]

I read an article that Tom Platz wrote about how his squat day used to go. He even included what he ate for dinner the night before, the special pair of paints he wore that day, and what went through his mind on the way to the gym that morning. It's a good read and it's really intense when it talks about how emotional and serious he is when talking about seeing the squat rack when he walked in the gym that day, and what it meant to him. Anyways, back to the point. On Tom's "heavy" day, he did sets of 15 with 600lbs. On his high rep day, he did sets of 30 with 405. I think he said he did six sets on both days. Can you imagine? I guess that's why he probably has the best legs of any bodybuilder to ever live though. He also talked about how he couldn't fit his thighs under the steering wheel of his car when trying to leave the gym those days. And after his squat workout, the guy went and rode a bike 20 miles for cardio. Makes you wonder about these guys who only wanna workout for 30 minutes to prevent "overtraining and not gaining any size" doesn't it?

 

[psychedout]

The reason im doing the 20 rep squats is to build somemore endurance in my legs for muay thai and BJJ training. I want to switch back and forth for power and endurance.
Did you find that your form started to go bad ever?????

Not personally, although it seems to be a common complaint. Keep in mind you are loosing less weight so even if the form gets a little loose, you chances of injury aren't very high.

 

[Tweakle]

Tom was one in a million.. Makes me wonder how many reps with 600 can you do?

Makes you wonder about these guys who only wanna workout for 30 minutes to prevent "overtraining and not gaining any size" doesn't it?

 

[JumpBallWinner]

When did I ever suggest I could do any reps with 600lbs and what does that have to do with anything?

 

[smaretick]

I've done them a few times.. last time was 385 x 20

I won't ever go over 10 reps in the squat because the high reps encourage form problems when you're grinding out those last reps. combine that with a fatigued lower back and it's an accident waiting to happen (or in my case a hamstring waiting to pop)

Damn...385X20 is impressive. I tend to favor working up to a 1 to 3 rep max, then doing drop sets, sets anywhere from 20 to 3 reps. I find the drop sets really fatigue my quads.

 

[Tweakle]

saying low volume isn't effective and pointing to someone else's achievements to back up your argument really isn't worth much.... it's as valid as quoting random M&F articles.

You're not Tom Platz, you haven't squatting a huge amount of weight, so why critise the methods of those who can actually squat 600+ and their 30 minute workouts?

 

[JumpBallWinner]

When did I say that low volume training wasn't effective? When did I recommend doing Tom Platz's workout? I've never done it myself, so why would I be preaching it to someone else?. Somebody asked about high rep squats, and since that's what the thread was about, I figured some people would enjoy reading about Platz's high volume workout. Maybe to try it out for themselves, maybe to never think about it again. And when did I critize anybody who can squat 600lbs? I simply suggested that when you look at the high volume training of the old time bodybuilders and then look at what they were able to accomplish, it can make you wonder about the validity of all the claims of today that say long high set/rep workouts are detrimental to growth. You obviously took personal issue with this, and I don't know why. My comment was intended more to dismiss the idea of high volume training not being effective that it ever was to critize anyone who chooses to do low volume set/reps. But I know and see too many people who come in the gym and don't exhaust their muscles or do enough different excersies to hit a muscle throughly with the reasoning that "I don't wanna overtrain", when they are really just looking for an excuse to not exert themselves or push their muscles to their limits. These are the same people who stand around looking in the mirror going " damn, why can't I get any bigger?", but then quote their workout routines as gospel as what everyone else should do if they wanna get big.

 

[Jim Ouini]

When did I say that low volume training wasn't effective? When did I recommend doing Tom Platz's workout? I've never done it myself, so why would I be preaching it to someone else?. Somebody asked about high rep squats, and since that's what the thread was about, I figured some people would enjoy reading about Platz's high volume workout. Maybe to try it out for themselves, maybe to never think about it again. And when did I critize anybody who can squat 600lbs? I simply suggested that when you look at the high volume training of the old time bodybuilders and then look at what they were able to accomplish, it can make you wonder about the validity of all the claims of today that say long high set/rep workouts are detrimental to growth. You obviously took personal issue with this, and I don't know why. My comment was intended more to dismiss the idea of high volume training not being effective that it ever was to critize anyone who chooses to do low volume set/reps. But I know and see too many people who come in the gym and don't exhaust their muscles or do enough different excersies to hit a muscle throughly with the reasoning that "I don't wanna overtrain", when they are really just looking for an excuse to not exert themselves or push their muscles to their limits. These are the same people who stand around looking in the mirror going " damn, why can't I get any bigger?", but then quote their workout routines as gospel as what everyone else should do if they wanna get big.

I personally love hearing about Platz. Sometimes I watch that 525 for 23 reps video just for fun.

 

[anthrax]

High reps squats have some benefits

Depends on your goal

BTW, I'm sure that "burns" and you feel fried
That doesn't mean it's "effective"

 

[JumpBallWinner]

I personally love hearing about Platz. Sometimes I watch that 525 for 23 reps video just for fun.

What's the video name? I'd love to see that also. Platz definitely had some intense leg workouts. I've read a couple of other workouts that he did for legs, but can't remember exactly how they went, but they were crazy also. All they ever mention him with are legs though, and I always wondered if the guy trained his upper body with the same sort of crazed intensity that he trained his legs with.

 

[Jim Ouini]

What's the video name? I'd love to see that also. Platz definitely had some intense leg workouts. I've read a couple of other workouts that he did for legs, but can't remember exactly how they went, but they were crazy also. All they ever mention him with are legs though, and I always wondered if the guy trained his upper body with the same sort of crazed intensity that he trained his legs with.

Here ya go

http://rapidshare.de/files/3413115/TomPlatz-500lbSQfor23reps.Exhibition.wmv.html

 

[bas4lizzife]

a few months ago I was training natty and using DC and put about an inch on my thighs in 6 weeks using his one heavy set, one 20 rep set method. I love squatting hard and heavy, but i'm assed out after about 7,8 reps so I dont think i have the heart to ever have truly impressive quads