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High RBC dangerous?

psychedout

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I read once that on a fair amount of EQ one should watch there red blood cell count.

I have heard it can be potentially dangerous... if so, why?
 
makes your blood clot more easily. can tick off a blood clot leading to a heart attack or a stroke. also makes it harder to pump blood around cause your blood is thicker. this can make your heart shit itself
 
AAS do not boost RBC anywhere near the extent EPO does and I strongly doubt RBC increases resultant of AAS use are of any concern.
 
true, but in certain BBers you have a whole other lot of risk factors so a change in you INR can precipitate a cardio or cerebro vascular event
 
Any gear boosts RBC production to some degree.

The most is Anadrol(Oxymetholone). It was created solely for this purpose, to treat children with sickle-cell anemia.
After that, its test, EQ, and some others....but they won't come close to Anadrol.

Also, some people have genetically high RBC levels. Mine oscillate between 8.0 and 9.0, but I have seen some endurance guys with RBC's in the 10+ range.

Thats just AAS though....you cannot kill yourself with AAS in terms of RBC's producing so many blood cells, that your hematocrit levels(Viscosity of the blood) begins to rise dramatically(Normally in the 60 range or so), and your blood begins to coagulate, and you have a myocardial infarction.

Only EPO is powerful enough to do that........reason why I won't go near it with a 100 ft pole.

Normal heamtocrit counts are between 40 and 45. For AAS users, depending on your dosage and choice of gear, they osciallte between 45 and 55.

(Btw, hemtocrit = Total volume of SOLID components in blood plasma / Total Volume of Blood Plasma).

Mine normally always stay in the 50 range as long as I stay reasonably well hydrated.

Fonz
 
Another reason to keep your AAS doses reasonable. Blood testing will help show how your body reacts to the AAS and give some idea where your maximal dosing should be.
 
Fonz said:
Any gear boosts RBC production to some degree.

The most is Anadrol(Oxymetholone). It was created solely for this purpose, to treat children with sickle-cell anemia.
After that, its test, EQ, and some others....but they won't come close to Anadrol.

Also, some people have genetically high RBC levels. Mine oscillate between 8.0 and 9.0, but I have seen some endurance guys with RBC's in the 10+ range.

Thats just AAS though....you cannot kill yourself with AAS in terms of RBC's producing so many blood cells, that your hematocrit levels(Viscosity of the blood) begins to rise dramatically(Normally in the 60 range or so), and your blood begins to coagulate, and you have a myocardial infarction.

Only EPO is powerful enough to do that........reason why I won't go near it with a 100 ft pole.

Normal heamtocrit counts are between 40 and 45. For AAS users, depending on your dosage and choice of gear, they osciallte between 45 and 55.

(Btw, hemtocrit = Total volume of SOLID components in blood plasma / Total Volume of Blood Plasma).

Mine normally always stay in the 50 range as long as I stay reasonably well hydrated.

Fonz


Well, you're fucked if you ever decide to become a pro cyclist. A hematocrit level of 50 or higher is considered a UCI positive doping test. They don't ban you for it because there currently is no way to prove the result isn't naturally occurring. They declare you "unfit to race" until your level drops below 50%.
Marco Pantani was leading the 3-week 1999 Giro d'Italia (Tour of Italy) and tested over the limit w/2 days left. He was never the same after that and in fact was found dead yesterday; my guess is suicde.

You would probably be stunned if I told you how many national & international-caliber (in their country) cyclists have died of mysterious heart-related problems. The fact that most of them died in their sleep pretty much tells the story though.
 
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