high liver enzymes

[traxxx]

just had blood work done and nurse called me today and said my liver enzymes are high. i dont know the number yet, i havent picked up my results other than that its ok. i did my last cycle a month ago. i was planing to start another one in a few weeks. im not really sure what to do about the high liver enzymes yet? what do i do?

 

[pentatonic]

just had blood work done and nurse called me today and said my liver enzymes are high. i dont know the number yet, i havent picked up my results other than that its ok. i did my last cycle a month ago. i was planing to start another one in a few weeks. im not really sure what to do about the high liver enzymes yet? what do i do?

Start another cycle ASAP!!! What do you mean what do you do? Listen to your doctor, do what they say.

 

[abomb]

What was your cycle. PCT? Tyler's Live Detox is pharmaceutical grade liver detoxification available at Anafit Store. Sesapure (Sesamin) & Glucorell (R-Ala) stacked will also help your values return to normal as well as burn fat. I would get these asap.

 

[traxxx]

What was your cycle. PCT? Tyler's Live Detox is pharmaceutical grade liver detoxification available at Anafit Store. Sesapure (Sesamin) & Glucorell (R-Ala) stacked will also help your values return to normal as well as burn fat. I would get these asap.

test e 500mg weeks 1-12
tbol 40mg weeks 1-4
var 80mg weeks 4-12
proviron 50mg weeks 4-14
nolva 40mg weeks 12-14 20mg week 15
ran 1000mg milk thistle throughout.

 

[traxxx]

if i run tylers now how long do i run it for and will i be able to start another cycle after it? or can i start a cycle and start tylers at the same time?

 

[chestmaster1]

You ran orals for 12 weeks, give your liver a rest

 

[traxxx]

ok just wondering for how long though?

 

[abomb]

Yeah running var that long got you buddy. That old wive's tale about Var not being Liver Toxic is horseshit. It's not AS toxic as some but it's still toxic. I would take Tyler's/Gluc/Sesapure for a solid 60 days before I would touch another oral.

 

[pentatonic]

ok just wondering for how long though?

Until you get re-tested to make sure your liver values are in the normal range.

 

[traxxx]

what if i get my readings back and they are just a little above normal?

 

[pentatonic]

what if i get my readings back and they are just a little above normal?

I guess that is your own decision. I wouldn't take a chance unless my values were in normal range.

 

[ortiz34]

If you even CONSIDER using orals in your next cycle you must have zero respect for what lies ahead for you in terms of health.

WTF is even the purpose to really run orals these days?

 

[treneriffic]

If you even CONSIDER using orals in your next cycle you must have zero respect for what lies ahead for you in terms of health.

WTF is even the purpose to really run orals these days?

Toxicity of orals is completley over exagerated. There are many studies out there showing this.

 

[traxxx]

If you even CONSIDER using orals in your next cycle you must have zero respect for what lies ahead for you in terms of health.

WTF is even the purpose to really run orals these days?

so i will be safe w only injects then on my liver?

 

[treneriffic]

If you say you shouldnt run orals because they raise liver values, then you should also say not to run any injectables because they are bad on your cholesterol levels.

 

[ortiz34]

Toxicity of orals is completley over exagerated. There are many studies out there showing this.

Shut your fucking mouth newbie, this guy HAS elavated liver values from taking VAR and TBOL, OK?

Don't walk around saying something is exagerated when it isn't in this guys case.

 

[traxxx]

If you say you shouldnt run orals because they raise liver values, then you should also say not to run any injectables because they are bad on your cholesterol levels.

my cholesterol levels were fine thou

 

[traxxx]

Shut your fucking mouth newbie, this guy HAS elavated liver values from taking VAR and TBOL, OK?

Don't walk around saying something is exagerated when it isn't in this guys case.

haha beat me to it

 

[ortiz34]

so i will be safe w only injects then on my liver?

That's what I would do bro, then get yourself checked out after that cycle. If your values are within normal range again, then I can't see how a 4 week stint, moderate dose of ONE oral would be ok. Right now I wouldn't even be thinking about orals.

 

[traxxx]

That's what I would do bro, then get yourself checked out after that cycle. If your values are within normal range again, then I can't see how a 4 week stint, moderate dose of ONE oral would be ok. Right now I wouldn't even be thinking about orals.

u ever run tylers? so should i run tylers w it then? thanks

 

[abomb]

YES BUY TYLER'S. I don't think your understanding - Tyler's is normally prescibed only by a physician. It is ONLY prescribed to treat liver functionability. Milk Thistle has never been proven to do anything positive to counteract a bodybuilder's use of oral steroids. You need to address your high liver enzymes immediately.

 

[traxxx]

ok just called dr. he told me my levels were just a tad above normal. so can i risk running an oral if i do tylers also?

 

[abomb]

I wouldn't - to each his own though. How old are you?

 

[traxxx]

I wouldn't - to each his own though. How old are you?

23

 

[traxxx]

just turned 23

 

[JohnnyWest]

Which enzymes are above normal? Tests don't take into account that SGOT (AST) levels are raised by skeletal muscle damage from exercising aswell as liver damage. But if your ALT levels are above normal you have done liver damage and need to heel.
And don't even think about running orals for another few months atleast.

Ortiz and tren, PURE samples of var can be run at very high doses without noteable damage, it is the impuirities in the manufacturing process that cause the problems, so for all purposes we might aswell say var is toxic because the chinese powders are not 100% pure for the most part.

 

[traxxx]

Which enzymes are above normal? Tests don't take into account that SGOT (AST) levels are raised by skeletal muscle damage from exercising aswell as liver damage. But if your ALT levels are above normal you have done liver damage and need to heel.
And don't even think about running orals for another few months atleast.

Ortiz and tren, PURE samples of var can be run at very high doses without noteable damage, it is the impuirities in the manufacturing process that cause the problems, so for all purposes we might aswell say var is toxic because the chinese powders are not 100% pure for the most part.

not sure what levels yet? i will get the full print out report tomorrow morning this he just told me today over the phone

 

[acneman]

If you even CONSIDER using orals in your next cycle you must have zero respect for what lies ahead for you in terms of health.

WTF is even the purpose to really run orals these days?

yep
someone had a thread titled why use oral gear

 

[traxxx]

Which enzymes are above normal? Tests don't take into account that SGOT (AST) levels are raised by skeletal muscle damage from exercising aswell as liver damage. But if your ALT levels are above normal you have done liver damage and need to heel.
And don't even think about running orals for another few months atleast.

Ortiz and tren, PURE samples of var can be run at very high doses without noteable damage, it is the impuirities in the manufacturing process that cause the problems, so for all purposes we might aswell say var is toxic because the chinese powders are not 100% pure for the most part.

ALT level is 66
AST level is 40