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HIGH dose Var

well i did run 75 for 3 weeks and took it down to 60 for the next 3 weeks. It kicked ass! Super vascular and strength went up alot. Looked wicked hard and striated. im running it again in may, hopefully can afford 75mg - 100mg ed this time for 8 weeks.
 
With all these powder sources I can see how one could do the these higher mg cycles of anavar. I personally would still spend an extra 100 or so to get it tested prior to me taking it.
 
hm. Primo cycle and a var cycle@75mg per day is roughly the same price, i dunno what you guys are smokin.
 
Dont 75mg of anavar and 75mg of anadrol have the same amount of AK-17 goin through ur liver? .....Whats good with var if ur tryin to take it easy on ur htpa primo?
 
I ran 90mg for 10 weeks, really good results. Not liver toxic at all. My liver values were perfect. Keep in mind anavar is given to children and women and also people with serious liver problems, thats how mild it is. I think Primo is worse for you lol
 
primo is hard on your hair, which is the only reason i wont do it. And var in place of it eliminates alot of injections which im not a big fan of. Also i got a great price on my var.
 
primo is hard on your hair, which is the only reason i wont do it. And var in place of it eliminates alot of injections which im not a big fan of. Also i got a great price on my var.
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primo isn't 17aa so it's milder on the liver than var, but yes - fu<ks with the hair, so none of that for me.
 
marshallmadman said:
When there are people out there popping 100-150 mg. of anadrol, you gonna say some shit like that. Please.
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the toxicity of 100-150 mg of anadrol a day is not the same as 100-150 mg of oxandrolone /day. Anadrol is given in a higher milligram dosage because it has a higher molecular wieght therefore there are less actual molecules of drug per milligram. In other words, 150 mg of var a day is way more toxic than 150 mg of drol/day
 
pharmguy said:
the toxicity of 100-150 mg of anadrol a day is not the same as 100-150 mg of oxandrolone /day. Anadrol is given in a higher milligram dosage because it has a higher molecular wieght therefore there are less actual molecules of drug per milligram. In other words, 150 mg of var a day is way more toxic than 150 mg of drol/day
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No no no no no no no. Hell no. Fuck no. Do not pass go, do not collect 200mg, i mean dollars. You eat 150mg of drol for 3 months, and ill eat 150mg var for 3 months, and we'll see how our livers compare.
Long Term Drol=Liver Cancer
 
BionicBC said:
No no no no no no no. Hell no. Fuck no. Do not pass go, do not collect 200mg, i mean dollars. You eat 150mg of drol for 3 months, and ill eat 150mg var for 3 months, and we'll see how our livers compare.
Long Term Drol=Liver Cancer
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Preach on, brotha.
 
pharmguy said:
the toxicity of 100-150 mg of anadrol a day is not the same as 100-150 mg of oxandrolone /day. Anadrol is given in a higher milligram dosage because it has a higher molecular wieght therefore there are less actual molecules of drug per milligram. In other words, 150 mg of var a day is way more toxic than 150 mg of drol/day
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I think he ment the other way around "In other words, 150 mg of Anadrol a day is way more toxic than 150 mg of var/day
 
shortstack said:
your liver says "fk you!" and takes a vacation.
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I get my liver checked and 120mg/d barely affected my liver. I don't respond to anavar though, i've tried it a couple times and it does nothing for me.

As far as long term anadrol causing cancer... I've read studies where AIDS patients were given 200-400mg/d for 6 months.

The toxicity of all orals is severely overstated- you should still get your liver checked, but don't be too suprised when your liver values haven't changed much
 
Frankieperfect said:
for a first time user of var , would 10 mg a day for 8weeks with 500mg of test and 30mg of deca be enough?
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10mg var is a waste of money. It will do very little, if anything at that dosage. I have to quesiton why you would use 30mg deca too, unless you mean 300mg of the deca.

500mg test, and 300mg deca is a great cycle. Dont waste your time with 10mg var.
 
landser said:
10mg var is a waste of money. It will do very little, if anything at that dosage. I have to quesiton why you would use 30mg deca too, unless you mean 300mg of the deca.

500mg test, and 300mg deca is a great cycle. Dont waste your time with 10mg var.
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yeah i meant 300mg of deca, so u think in that stack 10 mg of var is a waste?
 
Frankieperfect said:
yeah i meant 300mg of deca, so u think in that stack 10 mg of var is a waste?
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10mg var wont do anything...you could alternately go with another oral. I question why you want to add in var anyways, especially at such a low dose. It is a very weak drug.
 
try injecting it. very nice results that way. mix it with mct or flaxseed oil at 25mg/ml with 5%ba. it still settles at the bottom but just shake it up and it goes through a 23g pin no problem. awesome results! i do 2cc ev other day.
 
my boy ran 150mg of var a day for 14 weeks with no elevated liver values, very expensive, beter off with tren and test primo, or gh
 
chem_kid said:
try injecting it. very nice results that way. mix it with mct or flaxseed oil at 25mg/ml with 5%ba. it still settles at the bottom but just shake it up and it goes through a 23g pin no problem. awesome results! i do 2cc ev other day.
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Damn!
 
Other than price, what made you stop at 75mg?
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Cost isn't an issue cos I homebrew - It's just var makes me feel a bit sh!tty - a bit irritable / down and a bit lethargic - it's fine up to 50-75mg, but any higher and I felt really bad - although I think that if I stuck with it at say 100mg my body would adjust & I prolly feel OK in a couple of weeks.
 
I've been off for 4 days & I feel shitty now. Felt pretty good while on.
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Yeah - I'm a bit odd with var tho (@ 60mg+) - I get the exact opposite to this - I start feeling OK about 3-4 days after I stop!
 
landser said:
10mg var wont do anything...you could alternately go with another oral. I question why you want to add in var anyways, especially at such a low dose. It is a very weak drug.
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well i have read on this board that var is the best oral for lb for lb muscle, i think im gonna run 30 mg a day , your 2 cents anyone?
 
BionicBC said:
No no no no no no no. Hell no. Fuck no. Do not pass go, do not collect 200mg, i mean dollars. You eat 150mg of drol for 3 months, and ill eat 150mg var for 3 months, and we'll see how our livers compare.
Long Term Drol=Liver Cancer
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150 mg of drol is probably about the same toxicity as 60-90 mg var, keep in mind that mg per mg, var is a stronger compound. 17 alpha is 17 alpha, its the same enzymes required to metabolize both compounds.

Its the strong androgenic componet of drol that makes it more dangerous with respect to cancer. but both will cause liver cancer if taken too much for too long, don't delude yourself. I love var, but its a toxic compound.
 
both will cause liver cancer if taken too much for too long
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this has never been proved for var - liver damage yes, but cancer no, whereas drol is the only AS that has a proven link to liver cancer. (any 17aa AS can cause liver damage tho)
 
i ran 75mg/ed of orbit and 60mg/ed of BD. got better results from the BD
 
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Dr. Von Roenn and colleagues enrolled 60 women and 71 men with cancer cachexia, who received 10 mg of oxandrolone twice daily for 4 months(20mg), in addition to customiserd nutritional goals and progressive resistance exercises.

Unpublished results showed that 81% of patients either gained or maintained weight, with lean tissue weight increasing by an average of 7.5% at 4 months, Dr. Von Roenn said.


if people suffering from rapid weight loss can take it for upwards of 4 months while on chemotherapy and other drugs, my philosophy is, why not.

i think liver toxicity is over rater for var. It is nowhere NEAR that of drol.
 
Im starting a cycle of 600mg Primo and 50mg var for 12 weeks. Is 50mg enough or should I go higher. Also does var need to be split into several doses a day or 1 dose a day is fine?
 
50mg/day should be plenty since you're doing it with the primo. I'd split it into 2 doses at least, 3 if you want. When I ran it 60mg/day, I did 1ml 6am, 1ml 3pm, 1ml 11pm. Worked out nicely :)
 
Excidium28 said:
Im starting a cycle of 600mg Primo and 50mg var for 12 weeks. Is 50mg enough or should I go higher. Also does var need to be split into several doses a day or 1 dose a day is fine?
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Personally, I would take all your Var at once. I was splitting dosage on Winstrol, and quite frankly wasn't getting results. Their half-life is roughly the same, b.t.w. When I started taking 50mg. all at once, I could tell an immediate difference. Might be placebo, but I doubt it.
 
Personally, I would take all your Var at once. I was splitting dosage on Winstrol, and quite frankly wasn't getting results. Their half-life is roughly the same, b.t.w. When I started taking 50mg. all at once, I could tell an immediate difference. Might be placebo, but I doubt it.
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I noticed a big difference (better) when splitting my dose compared to taking it all in one dose.

What do you guys think about running a dosage of 125mg day for 5 weeks?
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Have you used var before, if so & your liver's working well then you should be OK, if not then I'd work up to that dose & see how you react - 125mg ED is pretty high tho.
 
i ran orbit and it was def good, great strength gains right away
 
Wootoom said:
i ran 75mg/ed of orbit and 60mg/ed of BD. got better results from the BD
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How much better were the results from BD? Would you say the Orbit was underdosed?
 
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