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High deca low test?
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Its a good way to go. Most of the sides created when you look at the core cause its estrogen. By lowering the test dose you lower this and make it easier to manage. Also its pretty pudent to allow the more powerful deca to do the majority of the work. Its a pretty smart way to go. The thing you have to remeber is that you will want to have prami on hand for potential prolactin lowering. The reason for this isnt deca increases prolactin ..because it doesnt. In all reality estrogen has much more of an impact on prolctin and increasing it than progesterone. However progesterone selectively up regulates prolactin receptors (ironically not in breast tissue btw - so prolactin gyno is a myth). This up regulation of prolactin receptor can lead to sexual sides in some cases. Lowering the prolactin offsets the up reglation of prolactin receptors.
Anyway sorry I blabbed on ... ultimately its a very smart way to go ..i do it often.
Anyway sorry I blabbed on ... ultimately its a very smart way to go ..i do it often.
Thanks for the info bro that's what I was thinking deca and trens sides are brought on by test mostly I ran tren and dbol without test no loss of libido just night sweats and decreased appetite but could not study at all hence not using it this time round. I have Adex but that won't do anyfn for deca sides? When I was younger and daft I ran deca and sus without anything on hand with no side effecs but want to go by the textbook for this one. I hav 2 10ml vials of test400 and 2 10ml vials of deca 300 and 140x10mg dbols, for the low test higher deca plan what would you recommend?
I cant set up a cycle for you. What I would do and what you would do may be dramatically different. I dont know your cycle history etc. Put something together you have in mind.
As far as this question I think the individual needs to find out for himself. some people respond very well to test , some to deca , some to both. I do very well with what id consider a moderate test dose and a high deca dose.
Well I'm 220lbs 5"11 and have done 2cycles in the past sus 500mg a week and deca 400 a week I was young and daft then didn't make the most of it, my 2nd cycle diet and training was much better tren a 100mg end and dbol 50ed for 6weeks loved the way tren made me in the gym and gains wise but side effects of sickly feeling when eating and sleeping n your sweat puddle and anger aswel as nt being able to study rules out tren for this one lol. I was thinking 400mg of test and 600of deca a week nt going to low with the test but nt extremely high with the deca also, open to suggestions tho, what would you do in this instance? Going for all out clean bulk and major strength gains
ok you need more deca ....
Id run it at 600 or 750 /week.
Id run test at 400/week
Id run dbol st 20 mgs/dy broken up 5mg in am / 10mgs afternoon / 5 mgs pm.
Id run it 12-14 weeks.
I know the dbol looks odd but im telling you this..if you try it..you will run it this way forever. It has a profound effect on nitrogen retention and protein synthesis. Greatly enhances your gains, and unlike high dose short duration dbol the gains are well retained.
Id run it at 600 or 750 /week.
Id run test at 400/week
Id run dbol st 20 mgs/dy broken up 5mg in am / 10mgs afternoon / 5 mgs pm.
Id run it 12-14 weeks.
I know the dbol looks odd but im telling you this..if you try it..you will run it this way forever. It has a profound effect on nitrogen retention and protein synthesis. Greatly enhances your gains, and unlike high dose short duration dbol the gains are well retained.
I have enough to run deca at 600mg for 10 weeks so mayb al get another vial and rn it at 750 for 12weeks. I know this high deca low test thing Is more of a hit n the states don't no why ppl here in the uk don't see the advantages you can't mention it without gtn hammered with criticism lol. The dbol thing is that 20mg ed for the whole duration of the cycle? Hence the smaller dose?
yes it is.
A tip I picked up from 2 BB'ers that compete that im friends with. It was a good tip.
A tip I picked up from 2 BB'ers that compete that im friends with. It was a good tip.
yes i think i mentioned pramipexole just in case that prolactin becomes an issue. Use the ai ..even at a very low dose.It will NOT hinder gains. You should keep estrogenat normal range even when on cycle. Do it .25 e3d if it makes u feel better. Id do .25 eod. Other than that and a solid pct your gtg I think.
Keep me posted..ill be arond if u have any questions.
Best of luck
Keep me posted..ill be arond if u have any questions.
Best of luck
tony1354142
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Look...I do not know how to start a thread so god help me here n don't bash my ass. App on my phone. I am no newbie to gear but never gave a shit bout sides. Heres my deal...
I recently purchased
Test 300
Deca 250
Now in the past I've wen way over those mg but I was early 20's and never was over 155. I used gear for 6 yrs off and on. Always knew to take test with deca. I researched. I'm 30 years old. 180 solid. Seemed to have plateaued here. Haven't touched or wanted to touch gear in 4 years. I broke lol. All my boys are on it and I've always been a firm believer in diet above all else and rigorous training that suites sufficient supplementation. In other words don't go over board unless u can back it up with a lot of high quality food a decent supplements. I always discourage anyone from roids if I see they have potential without them. Fuck go a few years with training an see where u get, the juice vine will always b flowing. Anyhow I am 30, 180, round 10-12 percent body fat. 5'8"...yea I know, but my concerns are these....I plan on taking the dosage as is on 10 week cycle.
300 test
250 deca
One cc a week.
I use to take twice that of each. But I train a lot different now. Now counting on it to do the work. I want an edge, bu not too slight I wan results. Is this worth it? I eat to grow. Fish, eggs, rice, steak, complex carbs...I mean I've for a lot without it, but man just hit a peak. Been changin routines and everything ...in gettin track here. That isn't too low of a dose is it. And my second concern is deca shlong. Us 250 mg even enough to worry with taking 300 mg of test. I understand that test usually need to be bout 200mg over deca but these are so low I'm just gonna prolly get that "edge" ya know. Which is fine I guess. But I did consider this.
Weeks
Week 1-----------/-----1/2 of each
Week 2, 3, 4, 5-------1 of each
Week 6, 7, 8----------1/2 deca 1 test
Deca will be finished
Week 9, 10-------------1 of test
This will allow 2 weeks of test to flow through system after deca is depleted. So what do you guys think? Results with this dosage? And side effects this way? Sorry if I did this all wrong....new to this site could post a new thread
I recently purchased
Test 300
Deca 250
Now in the past I've wen way over those mg but I was early 20's and never was over 155. I used gear for 6 yrs off and on. Always knew to take test with deca. I researched. I'm 30 years old. 180 solid. Seemed to have plateaued here. Haven't touched or wanted to touch gear in 4 years. I broke lol. All my boys are on it and I've always been a firm believer in diet above all else and rigorous training that suites sufficient supplementation. In other words don't go over board unless u can back it up with a lot of high quality food a decent supplements. I always discourage anyone from roids if I see they have potential without them. Fuck go a few years with training an see where u get, the juice vine will always b flowing. Anyhow I am 30, 180, round 10-12 percent body fat. 5'8"...yea I know, but my concerns are these....I plan on taking the dosage as is on 10 week cycle.
300 test
250 deca
One cc a week.
I use to take twice that of each. But I train a lot different now. Now counting on it to do the work. I want an edge, bu not too slight I wan results. Is this worth it? I eat to grow. Fish, eggs, rice, steak, complex carbs...I mean I've for a lot without it, but man just hit a peak. Been changin routines and everything ...in gettin track here. That isn't too low of a dose is it. And my second concern is deca shlong. Us 250 mg even enough to worry with taking 300 mg of test. I understand that test usually need to be bout 200mg over deca but these are so low I'm just gonna prolly get that "edge" ya know. Which is fine I guess. But I did consider this.
Weeks
Week 1-----------/-----1/2 of each
Week 2, 3, 4, 5-------1 of each
Week 6, 7, 8----------1/2 deca 1 test
Deca will be finished
Week 9, 10-------------1 of test
This will allow 2 weeks of test to flow through system after deca is depleted. So what do you guys think? Results with this dosage? And side effects this way? Sorry if I did this all wrong....new to this site could post a new thread
tony1354142
New member
Damn that post has so may typos..I'm sorry guys
