HGH & SARMs

[Methol]

Hi there I'm new here. I am going on a HGH cycle alongside SARMs but need help with the cycle. I will run HGH @ 4iu ed (6days p/w) for 6 months straight. I want to run SARMs alongside the HGH but need a good schedule for it. Shall I do 6 weeks on and 4 weeks off with SARMs at around 50mg ed? Also would adding 10mg var ed 6 weeks on 6 weeks off, suppress my test levels and is it worth it at 10mg?

Stats:

170lb @13%bf
5'7
25 y/o

Help me out here I am open to criticism and suggestions, cheers.

 

[jacshelb]

I'd do it like this:

HGH as you have it- 2 ius 2 x day

Sarms- 50 mg/day broken up into 2 doses (morning and afternoon say) 5 days per week (weekends off, let the eyes recover).

6 weeks of sarms followed by 4 weeks of anavar- alternate like that.

That's how I'd do it personally. According to what some have been saying, you may even be able to lighten that sarm dose to 30 mg/day (sarms) broken up into 2 doses and get very similar results.

I will say this though, you aren't going to see "amazing" results from this. S4, HGH, and Anavar are all known for giving comparatively subtle results. i.e. when compared to more extreme aas cycles or fat burning protocols. But, I like your approach and I think you'll see some good results. Just don't expect crazy eye-popping changes from this. More like good steady keepable results!

 

[eClenbuterol]

I'd do it like this:

HGH as you have it- 2 ius 2 x day

Sarms- 50 mg/day broken up into 2 doses (morning and afternoon say) 5 days per week (weekends off, let the eyes recover).

6 weeks of sarms followed by 4 weeks of anavar- alternate like that.

That's how I'd do it personally. According to what some have been saying, you may even be able to lighten that sarm dose to 30 mg/day (sarms) broken up into 2 doses and get very similar results.

I will say this though, you aren't going to see "amazing" results from this. S4, HGH, and Anavar are all known for giving comparatively subtle results. i.e. when compared to more extreme aas cycles or fat burning protocols. But, I like your approach and I think you'll see some good results. Just don't expect crazy eye-popping changes from this. More like good steady keepable results!

I totally agree with this,and like how it's laid out, what you will experience is some slight bodyfat loss, and some vascularity,i think you will be pleased.

 

[Methol]

I'd do it like this:

HGH as you have it- 2 ius 2 x day

Sarms- 50 mg/day broken up into 2 doses (morning and afternoon say) 5 days per week (weekends off, let the eyes recover).

6 weeks of sarms followed by 4 weeks of anavar- alternate like that.

That's how I'd do it personally. According to what some have been saying, you may even be able to lighten that sarm dose to 30 mg/day (sarms) broken up into 2 doses and get very similar results.

I will say this though, you aren't going to see "amazing" results from this. S4, HGH, and Anavar are all known for giving comparatively subtle results. i.e. when compared to more extreme aas cycles or fat burning protocols. But, I like your approach and I think you'll see some good results. Just don't expect crazy eye-popping changes from this. More like good steady keepable results!

Yep I was thinking about injecting HGH twice a day, once pre or post work out (btw which one would be better?) and one just before i hit bed.

What an idea I didn't think about cycling it like that but that sounds pretty damn good. I might just as well do it that way so throughout my 6 months on GH, I will either be on Anavar or SARMs.

But do you think it is worth taking anavar 10mg ed, would it make a noticeable difference to me at 10mg. The reasn i don't want to up the dose is because I have low natural test levels, I don't want to suppress my already low testosterone and I don't want to be bothered with PCT either, as neither does SARMs (at the dose I will use) or HGH require PCT.

Yeah I have done a bit of research on SARMs and ppl do get good results at even @ 20mg a day but like you say a 30mg dose split into am and pm would probably be best, plus i will have very low chances of the vision sides at that low dose, I might gradually increase to 50mg ed depending on the effect i see on it but nothing above that.

Yes I know I ain't going to turn into an animalistic figure with just HGH and s4 and maybe some anavar, in fact they are all for cutting purposes if I ain't mistaken. I carry quite a bit of fat I want to get rid of around my truncal area so this should be a great cycle for me plus I prefer more of a beach body type of look than bodybuilder type. I would take aas but I will not risk suppression of my already low test levels.

 

[Methol]

I totally agree with this,and like how it's laid out, what you will experience is some slight bodyfat loss, and some vascularity,i think you will be pleased.

That's exactly what I am looking for

 

[ChemWiz]

I am currently stacking hgh and sarms, LOVE IT!

 

[Cory151]

I am currently stacking hgh and sarms, LOVE IT!

Im currently on this GH and SARMs my observations thus far:

-The combination of these two seems to make the need for dosages of each respective compound less. For example I only have to take 30mg once daily of the S4 and 2-3 IU of GH every other day.
-Take my GH first thing in the morning so as not to suppress my pituitary squirt at night. That also why I take EOD.
-It doesnt seem to matter if I dose my S4 3x per day or once.
-This is a nice subtle stack that preserves all cardio and produces strength and lean gains.

 

[jacshelb]

But do you think it is worth taking anavar 10mg ed, would it make a noticeable difference to me at 10mg.

Yeah, I think it's a good way to go. 10 mg ed will give you some hardening and strength gains, help a bit. It's worth it. Especially to break up the sarms cycles. I think it has a nice flow. But, this is just my opinion. Not a lot of real science to it, I just like it!

 

[Methol]

Its nice to hear others are on this cycle as well........... Thanks for your input Cory .

So I got a few questions for you guys running the cycle. Is there a considerable gain in strength and stamina(I need to get stronger lol )? How long do you guys run s4 together with hgh? Would 4iu's of hgh ed be an overkill or is the more the better? What is the best time to dose SARMs? Anyone got vision problems with SARMs?

 

[Methol]

Yeah, I think it's a good way to go. 10 mg ed will give you some hardening and strength gains, help a bit. It's worth it. Especially to break up the sarms cycles. I think it has a nice flow. But, this is just my opinion. Not a lot of real science to it, I just like it!

Yeah, I've been doing more in depth research on var and I am most likely to chuck that into the cycle as well. I don't think 10mg ed will hurt anything. What dosages did you do var at?

 

[truckdaddy]

sarms and 5ius of HGH eod here!

 

[Cory151]

At the amount I take I have zero vision sides thus far, I also take about two grams of Billberry per day. However the more experienced guys on here like truckdaddy and radar are probably more qualified to answer your dosing questions.

 

[jacshelb]

Yeah, I've been doing more in depth research on var and I am most likely to chuck that into the cycle as well. I don't think 10mg ed will hurt anything. What dosages did you do var at?

Honestly never done var! But, I know it has around an 8 hr half-life, is known for hardening and is favorably anabolic over androgenic. Should be good for your purposes.

I cycle like this: Test cyp (750 mg/week), ancilliary injectable like tren enth (250 mg/week, low dose on harsher drugs to keep sides low), gh (2-3 iu/day) or gh peptides, aromasin (12.5 mg/day) for 8 weeks

Then I come off that and get on s4 (30-50 mg/day 5 days/week), GH (as above) or gh peptides, and now I'm also throwing in igf-1 and mgf for 8 weeks

So, it's a lot heavier protocol. I also do a couple things that we don't talk about on this forum. I have my own ideas on some of the more controversial drugs and don't want to disrespect any rules here as this is a great forum! But, my approach works for my needs. From what you've posted and your goals, you sound like you are right on track. I've got a lot of experience, but have never done anavar, anadrol, or deca. Just never got around to those three and haven't needed them. If someone offered me some good anavar I wouldn't refuse it though! It sounds like good stuff! (and no, that's not a request, I'm just saying)

 

[ChemWiz]

At the amount I take I have zero vision sides thus far, I also take about two grams of Billberry per day. However the more experienced guys on here like truckdaddy and radar are probably more qualified to answer your dosing questions.

2grams of bilberry is a solid dose.

I may bump mine up to that on the next sarms cycle.

 

[ChemWiz]

I have ran 20mgs of var before with decent results.

 

[ChangNam]

Guys 10mg var a day will do nada. Gh stacked with var is a wery nice combo. But u have to bump up the var bro. minimum 40mg ed for 7-8 weeks. I am no fan of high dosages. But var is not like dbol or tbol. And not expect to see to much from it. Why not add a smal amount of test ? 250mg e 10 day or so if u use depot. But u looking for lean gaines then i would do test p 100mg eod.

 

[ready your god for blood]

I ran saris at 50 a day and 5 iu of hgh after my last cycle. It was awesome honestly it dropped all the water weight and got me hard and I stayed strong. I did have vision sides like a mutha though

 

[doublebicep]

sarms and 5ius of HGH eod here!

Sweet! You gotta be lovin it bro.

 

[jacshelb]

Guys 10mg var a day will do nada. Gh stacked with var is a wery nice combo. But u have to bump up the var bro. minimum 40mg ed for 7-8 weeks. I am no fan of high dosages. But var is not like dbol or tbol. And not expect to see to much from it. Why not add a smal amount of test ? 250mg e 10 day or so if u use depot. But u looking for lean gaines then i would do test p 100mg eod.

You've got a point. Maybe 20 mg of Anavar then. I think he's looking at absolute minimum doses to "hold" or see any kind of gains. I think 20-25 mg/day might do something for him. Especially if he's new enough to all this. But, again, I'm not experienced with anavar. It's just that he doesn't seem to be looking for any kind of great gains, just a little this and that.

 

[truckdaddy]

Sweet! You gotta be lovin it bro.

Its a great combo bro