HGH - question

[RagenMMA]

I've been juicing steadily for nearly 2 years and have some sizeable gains. I must admit though I struggle keeping BF% in a normal range and fluctuate b/t 15-22% depending on the time of year and my goals. I've researched HGH and its benefits in regards to fatloss and hyperplasia and have decided i'd really like to give it a whirl at moderate dosages. I have a few questions i've come up with that i'd like to ask..

1. i've been told that moderate to high dosages of GH require T-3 supplementation as your body stops producing it's own.

2. i've seen that many folks use Insulin and its been suggested that i have it on hand just in case. Is there a possibility of becoming a diabetic if i don't monitor glucose levels?

3. My goals and my budget will put me at 2-3 iu's per day approx. 6 days a week taking one day off. I've got the opportunity for Hypertropin or a generic brand evidently made in the same lab. Any suggestions on my cycle or brand? I plan on stacking it with Test prop/EQ/Var for 3 months.

Thanks in advance,

Ragen

 

[CanadianCrippler]

I personally reccommend to start your HGH 1-2 months before your cycle, during your cycle and for 2 months aftr your cycle

Ive personally been on HGH for last 6 months and it has complete changed me your gunna love it

 

[AAP]

You don't HAVE to have insulin. Only if you are megadosing.

personally, I would opt for t4 rather than t3 on low doses of HGH. Only use the T3 - along with T4 - when you are doing a high dose with plenty of androgens.

 

[goin on 4T]

I personally reccommend to start your HGH 1-2 months before your cycle, during your cycle and for 2 months aftr your cycle

Yes!

 

[goin on 4T]

personally, I would opt for t4 rather than t3 on low doses of HGH. Only use the T3 - along with T4 - when you are doing a high dose with plenty of androgens.

Yes, there is a T-3,4 combo pill.
I take Armour Thyroid 30mg; same but different.

 

[goin on 4T]

2. i've seen that many folks use Insulin and its been suggested that i have it on hand just in case. Is there a possibility of becoming a diabetic if i don't monitor glucose levels?
The problem is that people take HGH and don't wait to eat. There is a period, 30min-1hr when no sugars should be taken. If taken it could cause issues related to type II diabetes. You can take protien and carbs but you should wait 15 min after HGH.

3. My goals and my budget will put me at 2-3 iu's per day approx. 6 days a week taking one day off. I've got the opportunity for Hypertropin or a generic brand evidently made in the same lab. Any suggestions on my cycle or brand? I plan on stacking it with Test prop/EQ/Var for 3 months.
The generics are basically the same. But let me qualify that as I have not tried every generic. Blues are great quality right now as long as the supplier understands storage requirements, supplier first then brand/price

Hope that helps!!!

 

[RagenMMA]

thanks guys.. my first post and i was thinking i would get flamed.. good info.

 

[Juicin]

I believe HGH is somewhat of a super horomone, but this does not take away from risks asscociated with it. Even HGH alone can cause you to become diabetic. HGH increases the amount of circulating glucose in the blood (hyperglycemia) which is an early stimulus for developing diabetes. GH also stimulates lipolysis which will cause an increase in fatty acids circulating the blood.

 

[RagenMMA]

How serious is the risk of developing Type II diabetes with HGH use? I mean, i'm not exactly 15% bodyfat right now and having to do slin for a lifetime won't work. The taste of the bait ain't worth the pain of the hook.

 

[goin on 4T]

HGH and diet issues lead to type II.
If you take in the morning right when you wake up simply wait 30min-1hr before you eat and sugars.
If taking before or right after work out then you should wait 15 min before having carb+protien shake. Then wait and hour before eating meal. It seems very simple. Other issues arise when adding IGF and/or taking over 5IU's per day.
If adding those than you need to be able to understand what hypo is and get a blood glucose monitor and check levels.
The people who have become type-II from HGH have returned to normal it just sucks for that time period.

 

[DidiXterra]

I've been juicing steadily for nearly 2 years and have some sizeable gains. I must admit though I struggle keeping BF% in a normal range and fluctuate b/t 15-22% depending on the time of year and my goals. I've researched HGH and its benefits in regards to fatloss and hyperplasia and have decided i'd really like to give it a whirl at moderate dosages. I have a few questions i've come up with that i'd like to ask..

1. i've been told that moderate to high dosages of GH require T-3 supplementation as your body stops producing it's own.

2. i've seen that many folks use Insulin and its been suggested that i have it on hand just in case. Is there a possibility of becoming a diabetic if i don't monitor glucose levels?

3. My goals and my budget will put me at 2-3 iu's per day approx. 6 days a week taking one day off. I've got the opportunity for Hypertropin or a generic brand evidently made in the same lab. Any suggestions on my cycle or brand? I plan on stacking it with Test prop/EQ/Var for 3 months.

Thanks in advance,

Ragen

From my experience 2-3iu a day for only 3 months might not give you the maximum effect, maybe if you would run it for 6 months... Beware of the Hygetropin scam out there, a test and it turned out to be Albumin (google Hygetropin and Scam). And there is reason to believe that a lot of sites from China making world wide deliveries are selling the same thing (the REAL Jintropin have been claiming the same thing for a while)... (But that might also be why people arent seeing the results they are looking for when on a 3 month cycle on hgh)

And only 3 months, one day off or no day off is ok... otherwise longer then that, I would go 5 days on, 2 days off...

I actually ran a Hygetropin 200iu pack in my 4iu/day hgh cycle that lasted 8 months... Its was in the middle of the cycle, and I didnt see as much results on it. When it was finished I started my Lilly's, and got some bad sides from it (cos I thought I needed to up the dose on the Hygetropin), so from being on 6-8iu (of what I now presume was albumin) a day, I jumped on 6-8iu/day of HgH... Hhhhhhh (I didnt realize this at the time, but this explains why my knees started to hurt like crazy and I got carpal) ...Hhhhh I also have some IP china Somatropin, that I would like to test. If someone has experience of them and would share?

Yeah, after a while on hgh you might need to add some T4 (preferred) or T3... or Armour (shoot for double dose of normal value or normal value). People are still debating if you really need to ramp up and down on it. Dont ramp up (like you would with clen), but if you want to ramp down, stay on your dose for two weeks and then on half that dose for two weeks. My next hgh (with anavar 40mg ED last 8 weeks and a 200mg test-P/weekly starting from week 3) cycle Im going to run USP Armour (on 1,5 or 2 times body value) and just stop short two weeks after cycle ends. Then run Thyroid and Testosterone stimulants supplement to kick start it faster.

Insulin... if you are diabetic-prone (have it in the family), or eat massive amounts of high sugar candies every night. Then insulin shots for the sake of diabetes while on hgh might be something to think about. To be sure to get the right dose you would have to get tested by a doctor anyway. No one here would never be able to tell you what dose you should take without blood tests!

People who take insulin while on hgh do that because of insulins effect on muscle growth... not because they want to be able to eat Ben & Jerry's, Chips, Cola and Sugarcanes every night...

There are however herbal insulin support supplements out there, I ate them. And added more Cinnamon to my oatmeal in the morning.

Also... Take hgh shots, 2 times a day... early morning and early or mid afternoon

Eat Anavar early morning, midday and at night right before bed (has a half-life of 8h.

T3, T4 and Armour is also best taken in morning


Best of luck

 

[DidiXterra]

I personally reccommend to start your HGH 1-2 months before your cycle, during your cycle and for 2 months aftr your cycle

Ive personally been on HGH for last 6 months and it has complete changed me your gunna love it

Yeah I agree with that, to throw in the Anavar and EQ in the middle or in the end of the hgh cycle...

 

[goin on 4T]

Didixterra nice post!

 

[jacven77]

U suggested using t4... Is synthroid something to concider and if so what dose. I have 125mcg pills but believe that is too much. Mabye cut them up? Everything thing I've read people say they have GAINED weight not LOST weight using synthroid..

 

[sooner]

Great info.... here is another question what happens if your a Diabetic. Can you take GH....what do you have to look out for...

 

[DidiXterra]

Great info.... here is another question what happens if your a Diabetic. Can you take GH....what do you have to look out for...

If you are a diabetic you would need insulin anyway, so of course you would need more insulin while you are on hgh as well... hgh makes your body more resistant to the effects of insulin... Im not in the habit of suggesting to other people that someone that has a potentially deadly chronic illness should risk their life further by secretly inject something that can have such a DIRECT effect on their disease. Consult with your doctor, a specialist...

To prescribe or suggest doses of insulin to any diabetic person online is insane and VERY dangerous, since all diabetic people are different and take different doses of insulin, the amount of insulin in those doses are regulated after how much and what the person in question have eaten just before, It is also based on tests, to find some kind of standard for that specific person... you would have to talk to your doctor. Or you might die!


...I wouldn't take hgh myself if I had diabetes, maybe I would run some other steroids. A lot of people think hgh is bs, and say that they get better or results just like that with "regular" meds, like a cycle of trenbolone/anavar and winny. Hgh isn't a wonder drug, you still have do diet like a maniac if you want to loose any weight. Even with steroids there is no easy way. The problem is that people been fed an image by media, that is you take it you will get to where Ben Johnson, Arnold, Flex Wheeler, your favorite fitness model and countless Tour de France winners was/are... People don't realize that THOSE people would have been in the top 5 in their field anyway, because of their dedication to their training, to their diet... The steroids just made them able to get that little extra... They trained like maniacs...

Arnold threw up in the gym on several occasions, because he was pushing himself so hard on/off diets. If you're 20% bf and think that 3-8 months of hgh will give you a 5-9% bf without diet and cardio... Forget about it! ...If you think that you reach those 1-4% bf without a a almost "painful" diet and early morning cardio, sessions in the gym where you almost want to give up and go home because they are feeling so harsh, baaaaad food cravings in the late evening in front of tv. ...Keep dreaming!

 

[goin on 4T]

If you are a diabetic you would need insulin anyway, so of course you would need more insulin while you are on hgh as well... hgh makes your body more resistant to the effects of insulin... Im not in the habit of suggesting to other people that someone that has a potentially deadly chronic illness should risk their life further by secretly inject something that can have such a DIRECT effect on their disease. Consult with your doctor, a specialist...

To prescribe or suggest doses of insulin to any diabetic person online is insane and VERY dangerous, since all diabetic people are different and take different doses of insulin, the amount of insulin in those doses are regulated after how much and what the person in question have eaten just before, It is also based on tests, to find some kind of standard for that specific person... you would have to talk to your doctor. Or you might die!


...I wouldn't take hgh myself if I had diabetes, maybe I would run some other steroids. A lot of people think hgh is bs, and say that they get better or results just like that with "regular" meds, like a cycle of trenbolone/anavar and winny. Hgh isn't a wonder drug, you still have do diet like a maniac if you want to loose any weight. Even with steroids there is no easy way. The problem is that people been fed an image by media, that is you take it you will get to where Ben Johnson, Arnold, Flex Wheeler, your favorite fitness model and countless Tour de France winners was/are... People don't realize that THOSE people would have been in the top 5 in their field anyway, because of their dedication to their training, to their diet... The steroids just made them able to get that little extra... They trained like maniacs...

Arnold threw up in the gym on several occasions, because he was pushing himself so hard on/off diets. If you're 20% bf and think that 3-8 months of hgh will give you a 5-9% bf without diet and cardio... Forget about it! ...If you think that you reach those 1-4% bf without a a almost "painful" diet and early morning cardio, sessions in the gym where you almost want to give up and go home because they are feeling so harsh, baaaaad food cravings in the late evening in front of tv. ...Keep dreaming!

Agreed! And they have the genitic gift as well!