hGH on first cycle?

[Monolith1]

I was reading on a thread on Meso that steroids weaken joints, tendons whilst increasing muscle size. The guy who started the thread recommended hGH to of set that damage.

I thought the joints didn't get worse on steroids only the muscle increases whilst the joints didn't, putting more stress on them?

hGH on first cycle, is that recommended?

Do steroids affect collagen production?

 

[Zyglamail]

I think it was winny that actually may help joint tissue, but aside from that AAS themselves dont seem to directly affect the joints. However indirectly they allow serious strength and mass gains, both of which take thier toll. The connective tissues are not vary vascular so take much longer to strengthen and heal if damaged. While GH may help a bit if you train smart and cycle to give the connective tissue time to adjust you shouldnt run into any real problems.

 

[solidspine]

When I started gear about 5 years ago there were lots of rumors and misconceptions.

Basically gear will simply help you increase you muscle size, strength and lower body fat. Each product has different effects both positive and negative. The negative side affects are exaggerated to the point of being nonsense.

But specifically to your question.

Deca has a tendency to reduce pain, soreness, etc in joints, not in muscle or tendons but in the joint itself. It works great for me all around.

Winny for some will cause joint pain, however it has never given me joint pain.


Growth is a totally different substance; works best for older lifters, (I am 52) and work well for extended periods of time at a constant low dose i.e. 4-6 IU per day.

If you are under 35 I would not spend a lot of time or money on growth, unless you can get it free.


This board is more informative than the rest of the Internet combined. But it still ends up being what works best for you and at what levels, and your own judgment and experimentation will give you that personal knowledge.

 

[hockey1]

43 years old

Ive only been on 11 weeks and see results from it cuz this cycle is different than the others,im ripped,bigger,no water,but most important i can fuck like i was 20,i dont cum for a long time,it is a fountain of youth.

 

[tury]

winny caused me joint pain. While on AAS your strength goes through the roof because your muscles are getting stronger the only problem is that your tendons do not increase in strength at the same rate, that is why alot of people who do not train hard before their first cycle or any cycle will likely get great pain and or injure themselves. As far as the winny goes, I just got joint pain because I was lifting heavy and heavier, but that is just the way I lift, I do not do light days. But as I get older I think I am going to have to. GH is supposed to strengthen connective tissue, but the last time I took it with Test,Fina, and Eq along with Arimidex I got joint pains again. it could have been the fact that I was on GH for about 4 months at 4iu's/day 5on 2 off not sure. Also I had read a post where people taking Fina, Arimidex and GH in a cycle were also having joint pains, that may have been a bad reaction in my body. But I kind of tend to think it was just me lifting heavy all the time with no light days and just getting to strong too fast for my body, joints and all connective tissue.