HGH Injections

[XXXL]

gh can be injected IM, shown to have longer duration in system. but sq raises serum levels higher and is active nearly as long.

sq is the way to go. . . .

 

[liftsiron]

SC Injection does not allow the HGH to get into the bloodstream to raise IGF levels. The HGH stays localized in the adipose tissue, only providing fat-burning.

Where do you get this data? Where do you get any of your data?

 

[DrJMW]

DrJMW do you have any empirical data to back up this thread? Its not that I doubt your word but I do remember you advising someone to add 9cc's of sterile water to a single 18iu vail. I would supect that injecting 1cc of water sq would cause the problems that you speak of. I would like to locate studies that show IM is superior to SQ. Thank you.

I have really never advocated Sub-Q in the first place--the manufacturers do. I am just going by observation and reports from users. I will post any revelant research when I come across it again.

 

[DrJMW]

Where do you get this data? Where do you get any of your data?

I get a number of the research abstracts from Medline. I do like to report feedback I get from frequent HGH users. As you can see, the observations are mixed. I have had more people report greater success with IM than SubQ. From a scientific point of view, it really doesn't mean anything. Someone needs to do a study on healthy athletes using HGH IM and SUBQ and measuring serum IGF-1 levels...right.

 

[liftsiron]

I get a number of the research abstracts from Medline. I do like to report feedback I get from frequent HGH users. As you can see, the observations are mixed. I have had more people report greater success with IM than SubQ. From a scientific point of view, it really doesn't mean anything. Someone needs to do a study on healthy athletes using HGH IM and SUBQ and measuring serum IGF-1 levels...right.

You are quite correct, sir. Your thread generated various opinions and mixed views, could be hgh, like most other substances that we put into our bodies, do not work the same for each of us. I have always percieved greater fat loss and enhanced muscularity with sq hgh injections vs. im. Also as I become older the effects of gh become more pronounced, this certianly is no revelation to us older gh users. Good thread.

 

[Mr.Dank]

I forgot to mention one thing. I read a medline abstract that compared SC injections of GH in the abdomen VS thigh. There was a measurable difference in absorption between the two. The abdomen was the way to go.

If you read through all the different gh manufactures package inserts you'll notice that they all give different values of bioavailability (percent absorption) for SC. My guess is that SC inj are very dependant on the conditions at the site. I think some mfg's claim a bioavailabilty in the upper 80% range for SC. It may also be dependent on the concentration after dilution, and or what it was diluted with. If you ignore the differences in concentration and dilutant, I see no reason why any brand would be better than another. GH is GH....
However, a lot of Pro's swear that humitrope is better than serostim, and nutropin is even better than humitrope unit for unit. And they are willing to pay what 3-4 times the price for nutropin compared to a kit.....


Its also my guess that IM would yield consistent absorption results, which I believe most mfgs list to be about the same. So it sounds very possible that some people would get better results with IM, and others with SC.

 

[graffixx]

mr.dank
is nutropin the same thing as norditropin? i have the premixed norditropin. and i am trying the IM route. 1.5iu last week, going to 3iu this week, then maybe 4.5-6 the week after... would welcome size gains, but main purpose is to heal tendons in elbows. stacked with omna/dbol and maybe some winny. then EQ at the end.

 

[Mr.Dank]

I know a few people that tore their muscles or actually tendons right off their bones. After surgery, both took 18IU a day right at the tendon. They both healed in record times. LOL

What Nutropin BTW? aq or Depot? I have not heard of anyone taking the depot, but in theory, it would give better results than regular forms of HGH.

 

[graffixx]

here is a pic of the norditropin. if i use site inj near the elbows, is moving the site each day still important? i am at 3iu pre workout now...

 

[graffixx]

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