Hgh in a bulking cycle?

[Ejjohn]

I am 215 around 13%bf, 5'9. I am about 40lbs heavier than last year in September and also at 2% less bf!
I am currently on a 12 week cycle of test prop 60mg ed and tren a 50mg ed and it is awesome. The strength I am getting from this cycle is unreal. Anyway, I am
planning on running a 16 week bulking cycle strting this November it looks like this:

1-5 dbol 50md ed
1-16 test cyp 750mg/wk
1-13 deca 600mg/wk
5-16 hcg 200iu e3d
1-16 adex .5mg eod
1-16 t3 12.5mcg ed (have some left over from this cycle)
dostinex on hand
pct: nolva 60/40/40/20/20/10/10
Igf 50mcg ed starting the same day as the nolva (3 weeks after last test injection)

my question is, would it be better to include hgh during this cycle or would it be a waste for bulking purposes? I am hearing mixed feelings about hgh and bulking.
I would use 5iu 5 on/ 2 off for The 16 weeks and then continue it 2 more months after the end of my cycle which would give me a 6 month cycle with hgh. If it is a waste I will use it next summer during my cutter since I know it will help during a cutting cycle.

I will also be using igf after my current test tren cycle four weeks at a time with 4 weeks in between each cycle. (all at 50mcg pinned pwo bilaterally inj)

 

[Ejjohn]

Basically, will I notice much of a difference between this cycle with or without the growth.
My diet consists of
300g of protein
650-700 clean carbs
whatever fat I get from this is the fat I eat I don't eat any extra fat. This gives me about 4000 calories without fat so I figure the fat will bring me up
to at least 5k.

 

[lartinos]

At 4iu's a day it is good for bulking. takes awhile to kick in so maybe
use igf-1 instead.

 

[Dogfox]

add some sustain alpha or something else to that pct. I dont think the hgh is necessary on that cycle.

 

[Ejjohn]

I am thinking about cycling igf in and out thru the cycle rather than use hgh. Dogfox, r u saying that you think the results will be nearly the same with or without the hgh? I feel like it will keep me leaner however.

 

[eClenbuterol]

I would run hgh and also IGF for that insulin spike

 

[Ejjohn]

If money allows I will do both. I just want to choose between running the hgh this winter or run it next summer while I
cut. A Lot of people I have talked to use it more while cutting and also help build/preserve muscle during a cut. I am extremely torn. More opinions wanted!!
Thanks to all who have helped so far.

 

[Dogfox]

I dont think with that much gear itll help. Certainly wont really keep you any leaner IMO and as far as gains wont illicit much of a noticeable effect. Why not just have tren or primo if your that worried about fat gain.

 

[Ejjohn]

I am not really worried about fat gain that much since I do eat pretty clean most of the time. I just eat so much I have no desire to cheat. So I feel like holding off from using the growth until next summer is the best option. I will be using igf before, during, and after this cycle. I don't really want to add anymore gear to this cycle since I am going to b using quite a bit. Especially deca and tren, I am a little sketched out about using both together, but with trens strength gains and decas mass I can only imagine how amazing the results would be.

 

[Dogfox]

was more of an add/drop suggestion. Glad to hear your not bothered about fat gain. Only women are.

 

[Ejjohn]

Haha it's not a bulk cycle if you don't gain a little fat.