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HGH. how many of you guys are using it?
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Fatboy1984
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hhmm.. maybe ill give hgh a try when i make my next order. would you recomend starting it anytime, or start it with a bulk, or cuting cycle?
Thanks for the help guys (and mostly hayez since he is always answering my retarded ass questions haha)
Thanks for the help guys (and mostly hayez since he is always answering my retarded ass questions haha)
Well what do you want to gain from the GH? Fat loss? Lean muscle gain?
Fatboy1984
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haha, isnt that what everyone wants. yes. I also hear it can make your frame alittle larger and width of your joints. i have a small frame, so just about everything about it sounds good to me. besides enlarged heart and the eyebrowl bone.
There are two distinctly different ways to run GH:
GH Cycle Option 1: Daily Injections
So what exactly constitutes the “correct” GH cycle? Well that’s a good question, since there are an infinite number of ways to take any chemical what usually gets passed off as the “correct” way is often just the most common. That doesn’t always mean it’s the best or most efficient way of doing things, just the most common. The 1st cycle we will discuss is the old standby, which is the daily injections method. This method has been used since the 70’s when athletes started experimenting with GH. Assuming your GH is of good quality and has been stored and shipped correctly there need not be any reason for you to use more than 4iu/day, most users of higher dosages do so because their GH has degraded somewhere along the line. I know I’m going to take flack on this from more experienced GH users but this article is be written for beginners and users with little GH experience and for those users the total dosage doesn’t need to be any higher, anything more will be a waste and with the cost of GH what it is that’s plain madness. Most athletes that I’ve trained and counseled on the use of GH have received great results using 2-3iu/day total so 4ius is a safe bet. I always believe in starting as low as possible, you can always go up if lower dosages don’t yield the desired results, but once you’ve used a dosage going back down doesn’t work as the body gets used to a certain level and anything under that level just won’t cut it so let’s start with 4iu/day if we need to go up later you can. Below I’ve laid out a very basic GH cycle, one that should work nicely for most users.
4ius/day Growth Hormone, 2iu injected upon rising, 2iu injected immediately post-workout
500mg/week Testosterone
12.5- 25mcg/day T3
As you can see I’ve added in 2 additional chemicals that I feel are necessities to getting all you can out of your GH cycle, Testosterone and the thyroid medication T3. GH and Testosterone used together yield that much sort after synergy, that is in this case when the 2 chemicals used together yield the results of more than the 2 alone could. When you add in small amounts of T3(12.5-25mcg/day) to any steroid cycle it increases the muscle gains by increasing the absorption of protein and other nutrients, it also speeds up the metabolism just enough to start burning fat albeit small amounts at that dosage but still since the GH is building muscle and burning fat at the same time it will only enhance the results your seeking. T3 is a cheap addition that like I said will also help shed some fat while adding muscle mass, and we all know the muscle building properties of steroids like Testosterone so taken together these 3 chemicals should net you very favorable results. While you can get results from using GH by itself there is literally no comparison to the results gained by using the 3 chemicals listed above.
GH Cycle Option 2: 3/week Protocol
In recent times through experimentation lifters have discovered a new and exciting way of extracting even better results from the same amount of GH, and as an added benefit without the all too often experienced negative side effects like carpal tunnel syndrome, water retention or aching joints. This method involves taking your weekly total of GH you would use over a 7 day period, dividing it by 3 and using 1/3 post workout after 3 selected workouts each week. Now obviously the individual shots will be bigger, but because their infrequent the body doesn’t grow accustomed to them and the side effects never show. In the 2 plus years I’ve been counseling lifters on their GH usage not 1 has experienced any side effects using GH this way, yet the muscle gains and fat loss results they experience are far better than ever. I’ve had guys who couldn’t get any results from daily injects suddenly gain a solid 15lbs in 4-8 weeks by doing nothing more than switching their cycle from daily shots to the 3/week protocol. The cycle would look like this.
9-10ius GH 3 times per week, post workout, preferably IM injection
500mg/week Testosterone
12.5- 25mcg/day T3
Again you see that the 3 components are the same, GH, Testosterone and T3. The only differences between this option and option #1 is that you are doing shots only post workout and only on 3 workout days, on the “off days” you are not shooting anything. You are also only shooting your GH once that day, right after your workout, not upon rising from sleep. The idea here is to hit it hard and infrequently, causing the body to react in a favorable way and then let it rest. I can state emphatically that I haven’t had 1 person I’ve recommended this to over the past 2 plus years not be far more pleased with the results than with the daily injection method.
GH Cycle Option 1: Daily Injections
So what exactly constitutes the “correct” GH cycle? Well that’s a good question, since there are an infinite number of ways to take any chemical what usually gets passed off as the “correct” way is often just the most common. That doesn’t always mean it’s the best or most efficient way of doing things, just the most common. The 1st cycle we will discuss is the old standby, which is the daily injections method. This method has been used since the 70’s when athletes started experimenting with GH. Assuming your GH is of good quality and has been stored and shipped correctly there need not be any reason for you to use more than 4iu/day, most users of higher dosages do so because their GH has degraded somewhere along the line. I know I’m going to take flack on this from more experienced GH users but this article is be written for beginners and users with little GH experience and for those users the total dosage doesn’t need to be any higher, anything more will be a waste and with the cost of GH what it is that’s plain madness. Most athletes that I’ve trained and counseled on the use of GH have received great results using 2-3iu/day total so 4ius is a safe bet. I always believe in starting as low as possible, you can always go up if lower dosages don’t yield the desired results, but once you’ve used a dosage going back down doesn’t work as the body gets used to a certain level and anything under that level just won’t cut it so let’s start with 4iu/day if we need to go up later you can. Below I’ve laid out a very basic GH cycle, one that should work nicely for most users.
4ius/day Growth Hormone, 2iu injected upon rising, 2iu injected immediately post-workout
500mg/week Testosterone
12.5- 25mcg/day T3
As you can see I’ve added in 2 additional chemicals that I feel are necessities to getting all you can out of your GH cycle, Testosterone and the thyroid medication T3. GH and Testosterone used together yield that much sort after synergy, that is in this case when the 2 chemicals used together yield the results of more than the 2 alone could. When you add in small amounts of T3(12.5-25mcg/day) to any steroid cycle it increases the muscle gains by increasing the absorption of protein and other nutrients, it also speeds up the metabolism just enough to start burning fat albeit small amounts at that dosage but still since the GH is building muscle and burning fat at the same time it will only enhance the results your seeking. T3 is a cheap addition that like I said will also help shed some fat while adding muscle mass, and we all know the muscle building properties of steroids like Testosterone so taken together these 3 chemicals should net you very favorable results. While you can get results from using GH by itself there is literally no comparison to the results gained by using the 3 chemicals listed above.
GH Cycle Option 2: 3/week Protocol
In recent times through experimentation lifters have discovered a new and exciting way of extracting even better results from the same amount of GH, and as an added benefit without the all too often experienced negative side effects like carpal tunnel syndrome, water retention or aching joints. This method involves taking your weekly total of GH you would use over a 7 day period, dividing it by 3 and using 1/3 post workout after 3 selected workouts each week. Now obviously the individual shots will be bigger, but because their infrequent the body doesn’t grow accustomed to them and the side effects never show. In the 2 plus years I’ve been counseling lifters on their GH usage not 1 has experienced any side effects using GH this way, yet the muscle gains and fat loss results they experience are far better than ever. I’ve had guys who couldn’t get any results from daily injects suddenly gain a solid 15lbs in 4-8 weeks by doing nothing more than switching their cycle from daily shots to the 3/week protocol. The cycle would look like this.
9-10ius GH 3 times per week, post workout, preferably IM injection
500mg/week Testosterone
12.5- 25mcg/day T3
Again you see that the 3 components are the same, GH, Testosterone and T3. The only differences between this option and option #1 is that you are doing shots only post workout and only on 3 workout days, on the “off days” you are not shooting anything. You are also only shooting your GH once that day, right after your workout, not upon rising from sleep. The idea here is to hit it hard and infrequently, causing the body to react in a favorable way and then let it rest. I can state emphatically that I haven’t had 1 person I’ve recommended this to over the past 2 plus years not be far more pleased with the results than with the daily injection method.
Fatboy1984
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good info thanks man. i was thinkin about 4 iu's a day. thats alot of injections if you were doing hgh with test prop or any short esther. ive actually started to look forward to my injection days though which is crazy since i used to be so scared of needles. what kind of gains would you get just from the GH, without the test. My next cycle i wanted to be test P, and tren. So i wouldnt want to start HGH at the same time as tren.... id be alittle scared.
iron_matt-CB
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I wouldn't start the hgh at the same time as your test and tren... It takes IMO at least 2 months for the hgh to take some effect for me it took 3 to notice things and I'm on legit pharmAcy quality hgh... So you should start the hgh along with some t4 or t3 for at least 2 months prior to strting gear and then everything will be kicking in at the same time which = NICE!!
iron_matt-CB
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I also think hgh by itself without high doses isn't going to yield big time muscle gains.. Take it with juice and t4 and you will love it
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