Hey need some help here, winny only did i mess up?

[Sh4nk]

OK Guys, I'm 19, 5"11, 160lbs.

Wanted to do a some what safe cycle and was looking for some decent gains. Unfortuantly the only steriod thats available on the "streets" around here is winstrol/dbol. A buddy of mine (he's huge) told me dbol is way to strong for a first cycle, and gave me 60 pills of winstrol for $100.

I dont have any test, and would rather not inject anything. After doing MORE research I learned that winstrol suxs for trying to get gains (alone at least). I'm already through one week of my winstrol cycle... if im trying to put some lean mass on what should i do? I've actaully put 3 pounds on in the week (don't look any different though).

I also heard that winstrol can destroy your liver/joints, and can destroy your nat. test lvls.


What do i do???

Stop taking the winstrol 1 week in, and sell what I have left, maybe try to find some dbol or somthing?

Keep taking the winstrol and working out/eating alot??

Winstrols great for cutting, maybe I should use it for another week or two and get a 6-pack out of it?

 

[xrsist]

work out eat everything and dont use aas till your 21

 

[otsjacked]

first off u cant talk about prices..and inject are less stress on your liver.and what mg are ur winny tabs?

 

[JumpBallWinner]

So how was Panama city?

 

[yonkers weights]

Spring Break 07 RULES!!! JK

 

[Sh4nk]

Pink pills, 50mg a piece.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Spit that shit out and train ,and a six pack in 2 weeks ?,
you need to learn and train .
Brad.

 

[otsjacked]

brake them in haf take 25 in am 25 in pm and get some test...and if u really "Wanted to do a some what safe cycle and was looking for some decent gains" u would use something like primo,deca

 

[Sh4nk]

So go ahead and use them then? 25 am/25 pm for six weeks. Should I eat for mass or eat as clean as possible...?

 

[bikercoz]

So how was Panama city?


LMAO

 

[abomb-2001]

So how was Panama city?


LMAO

+1

 

[52_21_30]

I'm really starting to think these are fake posts by random people to piss off people like me. If it's not fake, then god help the original poster. May Darwinism take it's course...

 

[yonkers weights]

Some people just set up accounts to stir it up. Leave em alone and they will go.
If they are real posts, stop and read and learn before you post questions. A lot of the answers are there already, just do your homework.

 

[jochensa]

if i had to do it again i would have been on gear @ 18 or younger. take the winny 50's whenever thru out the day. dont complicate things take the whole pill at once. also you can def take the dbol just make sure you have a blocker on hand if you need it. eating...eat well, not bk or micky d's but oatmeal and eggwhites alot, and dont be afraid of pizza, burgers, etc if you are feeling lethargic....oh and tons of water!!!

oh and most important only stay on the 50's for like 7 weeks max. bad for your cholesterol. the joints and liver probs. your joints ache cuz your muslces (grow) get stronger faster than you joints (cartilage). end result will be tendonitis that will go away pretty fast. Liver, well everything is bad for your liver from booze to too many vitamins. As just like your skin the liver is a living filter. Booze is so much worse for you than a moderate cycle.

My 18 again (or 19) would be 100 dbol and 50/50mg tabs of winny. do a pyramid cycle start with the d's 6 weeks. week 4 kick in the winny for 6 weeks=total 10 weeks. 2-3 weeks b4 the end of the cycle take some clomid or some hcg to get your levels back. like I said eat/train well my friend!!!

 

[Sh4nk]

if i had to do it again i would have been on gear @ 18 or younger. take the winny 50's whenever thru out the day. dont complicate things take the whole pill at once. also you can def take the dbol just make sure you have a blocker on hand if you need it. eating...eat well, not bk or micky d's but oatmeal and eggwhites alot, and dont be afraid of pizza, burgers, etc if you are feeling lethargic....oh and tons of water!!!

oh and most important only stay on the 50's for like 7 weeks max. bad for your cholesterol. the joints and liver probs. your joints ache cuz your muslces (grow) get stronger faster than you joints (cartilage). end result will be tendonitis that will go away pretty fast. Liver, well everything is bad for your liver from booze to too many vitamins. As just like your skin the liver is a living filter. Booze is so much worse for you than a moderate cycle.

My 18 again (or 19) would be 100 dbol and 50/50mg tabs of winny. do a pyramid cycle start with the d's 6 weeks. week 4 kick in the winny for 6 weeks=total 10 weeks. 2-3 weeks b4 the end of the cycle take some clomid or some hcg to get your levels back. like I said eat/train well my friend!!!

Hey thanks for your help man, no i'm not trying to "stir stuff up". So I guess I need to get my hands on some dbol then, should I just straight up stop taking the winstrol intill I get the dbol??

 

[CO B-man]

OK Guys, I'm 19, 5"11, 160lbs.

Wanted to do a some what safe cycle and was looking for some decent gains. Unfortuantly the only steriod thats available on the "streets" around here is winstrol/dbol. A buddy of mine (he's huge) told me dbol is way to strong for a first cycle, and gave me 60 pills of winstrol for $100.

I dont have any test, and would rather not inject anything. After doing MORE research I learned that winstrol suxs for trying to get gains (alone at least). I'm already through one week of my winstrol cycle... if im trying to put some lean mass on what should i do? I've actaully put 3 pounds on in the week (don't look any different though).

I also heard that winstrol can destroy your liver/joints, and can destroy your nat. test lvls.


What do i do???

Stop taking the winstrol 1 week in, and sell what I have left, maybe try to find some dbol or somthing?

Keep taking the winstrol and working out/eating alot??

Winstrols great for cutting, maybe I should use it for another week or two and get a 6-pack out of it?

This is wrong on so many levels that I am not even going to start.

 

[Mac173]

This is wrong on so many levels that I am not even going to start.

I was going to say the same thing. What the hell kind of advice is this?

 

[jochensa]

I gain mass off of winny so check it out for the 60 days take a break for a few weeks. and then figure out if you want to do another cycle.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

OK Guys, I'm 19, 5"11, 160lbs.

Wanted to do a some what safe cycle and was looking for some decent gains. Unfortuantly the only steriod thats available on the "streets" around here is winstrol/dbol. A buddy of mine (he's huge) told me dbol is way to strong for a first cycle, and gave me 60 pills of winstrol for $100.

I dont have any test, and would rather not inject anything. After doing MORE research I learned that winstrol suxs for trying to get gains (alone at least). I'm already through one week of my winstrol cycle... if im trying to put some lean mass on what should i do? I've actaully put 3 pounds on in the week (don't look any different though).

I also heard that winstrol can destroy your liver/joints, and can destroy your nat. test lvls.


What do i do???

Stop taking the winstrol 1 week in, and sell what I have left, maybe try to find some dbol or somthing?

Keep taking the winstrol and working out/eating alot??

Winstrols great for cutting, maybe I should use it for another week or two and get a 6-pack out of it?

Bro, if you're 5'11" and 160 and you don't have a six pack now you are years away from bieng ready for any type of sauce.

 

[Sh4nk]

I gain mass off of winny so check it out for the 60 days take a break for a few weeks. and then figure out if you want to do another cycle.

All right thanks man. So I should be ok with just winny for the 60 days then...

 

[jochensa]

yeah take the winny see where it takes you. but remember once you bite the fruit you may not be able to put it down........translation i hate training when i am off.

good luck

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

if i had to do it again i would have been on gear @ 18 or younger. take the winny 50's whenever thru out the day. dont complicate things take the whole pill at once. also you can def take the dbol just make sure you have a blocker on hand if you need it. eating...eat well, not bk or micky d's but oatmeal and eggwhites alot, and dont be afraid of pizza, burgers, etc if you are feeling lethargic....oh and tons of water!!!

oh and most important only stay on the 50's for like 7 weeks max. bad for your cholesterol. the joints and liver probs. your joints ache cuz your muslces (grow) get stronger faster than you joints (cartilage). end result will be tendonitis that will go away pretty fast. Liver, well everything is bad for your liver from booze to too many vitamins. As just like your skin the liver is a living filter. Booze is so much worse for you than a moderate cycle.

My 18 again (or 19) would be 100 dbol and 50/50mg tabs of winny. do a pyramid cycle start with the d's 6 weeks. week 4 kick in the winny for 6 weeks=total 10 weeks. 2-3 weeks b4 the end of the cycle take some clomid or some hcg to get your levels back. like I said eat/train well my friend!!!

Your recommended cycle for an 18 or 19 yr old kid is dbol and oral winny???? quit throwing out stupid advice bro - everybodies first cycle should be 500mg of test ew for 8-10 weeks IMO. Definitely not 2 orals.

 

[CO B-man]

All right thanks man. So I should be ok with just winny for the 60 days then...

AHA fishing for someone to agree with you!

Sure go for it! Tell us how that works out for you.

Sh4nk = poor advice. interesting how he just signed on this week. Winny is not typically used for mass but go for it I cant wait to see b4 and after pics. You are going to be all swole and huge. The most shredded dude on the block! or at least your bedroom.

 

[jochensa]

Your recommended cycle for an 18 or 19 yr old kid is dbol and oral winny???? quit throwing out stupid advice bro - everybodies first cycle should be 500mg of test ew for 8-10 weeks IMO. Definitely not 2 orals.

bro,
I took sten my 1st time (in college @ 19-20)based on just hoodoo.....sux'd. it really doesnt matter what the 1st cycle is or consists of. and as far as when i signed on it doesnt matter really. winny makes me gain size that stays on. dont get all high and mighty cuz you pay for this site gimme a break.

 

[Kabeetz]

I'm really starting to think these are fake posts by random people to piss off people like me. If it's not fake, then god help the original poster. May Darwinism take it's course...

I thought the first week of the year was bad... this week has been nuts with these random questions repeatedly asked.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

bro,
I took sten my 1st time (in college @ 19-20)based on just hoodoo.....sux'd. it really doesnt matter what the 1st cycle is or consists of. and as far as when i signed on it doesnt matter really. winny makes me gain size that stays on. dont get all high and mighty cuz you pay for this site gimme a break.

Sten was garbage. My advice to you was to not give advice to others. You have no idea what you're talking about. 2 orals is not a healthy choice at all compared to 1 injectable. Winny is nice, I'm taking it right now along with tren and test. Winny is best as an additional compound rather than a base compound. Your ass is going to get flamed right out of here if you keep giving shit advice to novice users.

 

[xrsist]

someone fuck this 'jochensa' idiot off please

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

someone fuck this 'jochensa' idiot off please

I told you this was coming jochensa. friendly advice, you get one freebie here but your next post better be less idiodic or you'll get flamed like a mother.

 

[jochensa]

Sten was garbage. My advice to you was to not give advice to others. You have no idea what you're talking about. 2 orals is not a healthy choice at all compared to 1 injectable. Winny is nice, I'm taking it right now along with tren and test. Winny is best as an additional compound rather than a base compound. Your ass is going to get flamed right out of here if you keep giving shit advice to novice users.

did you even read my cycle it was one oral at a time (one to 2 week overlap). Sten is garbage I know that. but if you knew what hoodoo was. you would realize that at the time it was people believed (1990). He doesnt have access to anything but the 2 orals. I would tell him to never ever take test too. The new look is to be fit and shredded not bloated and looking shit like you (pregnant). I take "base compounds" all the time and look great. Honestly bro I shutter to think that you think you know what you are talking about. I give honest advice where you give stuff right out of a textbook. Flag me I will be back bigger and better diff name, email address, the works. seriously dont be a pussy cuz u are an amatuer.

 

[xrsist]

did you even read my cycle it was one oral at a time (one to 2 week overlap). Sten is garbage I know that. but if you knew what hoodoo was. you would realize that at the time it was people believed (1990). He doesnt have access to anything but the 2 orals. I would tell him to never ever take test too. The new look is to be fit and shredded not bloated and looking shit like you (pregnant). I take "base compounds" all the time and look great. Honestly bro I shutter to think that you think you know what you are talking about. I give honest advice where you give stuff right out of a textbook. Flag me I will be back bigger and better diff name, email address, the works. seriously dont be a pussy cuz u are an amatuer.

haha, does this cunt have any clue at all????

 

[jochensa]

wow u guys really do think you know it all huh? honestly you guys are really just wanna be's.......make me laugh a bit. POOR genetics a lil juice read a few books and your experts hhhhmmm. I will take winny all and let you take whatever, you will still be second or 3rd tier.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

did you even read my cycle it was one oral at a time (one to 2 week overlap). Sten is garbage I know that. but if you knew what hoodoo was. you would realize that at the time it was people believed (1990). He doesnt have access to anything but the 2 orals. I would tell him to never ever take test too. The new look is to be fit and shredded not bloated and looking shit like you (pregnant). I take "base compounds" all the time and look great. Honestly bro I shutter to think that you think you know what you are talking about. I give honest advice where you give stuff right out of a textbook. Flag me I will be back bigger and better diff name, email address, the works. seriously dont be a pussy cuz u are an amatuer.

This your first and last chance with me ,your talking smack to good bros
that have been here to help with good advice for a long time dont rock
the boat ,your advice to a 19 yo is worth jack shit here .
Brad.

 

[CO B-man]

wow u guys really do think you know it all huh? honestly you guys are really just wanna be's.......make me laugh a bit. POOR genetics a lil juice read a few books and your experts hhhhmmm. I will take winny all and let you take whatever, you will still be second or 3rd tier.

Your comments definately are proof that a majority of these posts know more about this than you do. Winny is not really used for mass gains in the first place. Research, & books is how you learn. You are not born a lawyer and Engineer or a doctor. you have to read and research and ask questions. Take your own advice where did you get your info? Did your friend tell you because if he did you should discount his knowledge from now on for your own good and before you taint others with incorrect information just read and learn.

 

[jochensa]

This your first and last chance with me ,your talking smack to good bros
that have been here to help with good advice for a long time dont rock
the boat ,your advice to a 19 yo is worth jack shit here .
Brad.

Bro,
That was good advice. I didnt have someone to tell me what to do when I was 19. He asked so I told him how to use what he had. He is going to take it anyway, at least tell him how to do it right. Don't say dont have sex, say be careful doing it. I have a masters in bio. your liver isnt going to get hurt by taking 2 orals, all the time maybe, once no. read the rest of my posts all quality stuff that these guys dont think of. all the talk of test, test, test makes me sick cuz i dont need it. bottom line i talk from personal exp. where as i dont think these guys do. the fact that he is 19 is irrelevant. i used at 19 to start as a freshmen on a d 1 team. I am not going to sit here and shighted on cuz i am a newbie. do what you have to. there are alot of emails, ip's etc on this net, I'll be back.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

did you even read my cycle it was one oral at a time (one to 2 week overlap). Sten is garbage I know that. but if you knew what hoodoo was. you would realize that at the time it was people believed (1990). He doesnt have access to anything but the 2 orals. I would tell him to never ever take test too. The new look is to be fit and shredded not bloated and looking shit like you (pregnant). I take "base compounds" all the time and look great. Honestly bro I shutter to think that you think you know what you are talking about. I give honest advice where you give stuff right out of a textbook. Flag me I will be back bigger and better diff name, email address, the works. seriously dont be a pussy cuz u are an amatuer.

You really think I look pregnant???? My avi is mid bulking cycle and if shredded is the look (which I agree it is) dbol is not the one to use. Dbol is one of the most notorious bloaters out there. Post a pic if you think you're "the man" instead of just mouthing off that you're "the man"

 

[thelion2005]

OK Guys, I'm 19, 5"11, 160lbs.

Wanted to do a some what safe cycle and was looking for some decent gains. Unfortuantly the only steriod thats available on the "streets" around here is winstrol/dbol. A buddy of mine (he's huge) told me dbol is way to strong for a first cycle, and gave me 60 pills of winstrol for $100.

I dont have any test, and would rather not inject anything. After doing MORE research I learned that winstrol suxs for trying to get gains (alone at least). I'm already through one week of my winstrol cycle... if im trying to put some lean mass on what should i do? I've actaully put 3 pounds on in the week (don't look any different though).

I also heard that winstrol can destroy your liver/joints, and can destroy your nat. test lvls.


What do i do???

Stop taking the winstrol 1 week in, and sell what I have left, maybe try to find some dbol or somthing?

Keep taking the winstrol and working out/eating alot??

Winstrols great for cutting, maybe I should use it for another week or two and get a 6-pack out of it?

This will be an unpopular reply, but here goes:

Finish the cycle. You will make some small gains and have a safe first experience. You are already past GO, so why not?

Oh sure ... there are much better choices and you know that. But there is no harm with this.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

This your first and last chance with me ,your talking smack to good bros
that have been here to help with good advice for a long time dont rock
the boat ,your advice to a 19 yo is worth jack shit here .
Brad.

This mother said i looked pregnant! Bomb his ass for me since I have no bombs to throw his way.

 

[Mac173]

Bro,
That was good advice. I didnt have someone to tell me what to do when I was 19. He asked so I told him how to use what he had. He is going to take it anyway, at least tell him how to do it right. Don't say dont have sex, say be careful doing it. I have a masters in bio. your liver isnt going to get hurt by taking 2 orals, all the time maybe, once no. read the rest of my posts all quality stuff that these guys dont think of. all the talk of test, test, test makes me sick cuz i dont need it. bottom line i talk from personal exp. where as i dont think these guys do. the fact that he is 19 is irrelevant. i used at 19 to start as a freshmen on a d 1 team. I am not going to sit here and shighted on cuz i am a newbie. do what you have to. there are alot of emails, ip's etc on this net, I'll be back.

Age doesn't matter. Recommends not using test. 2 orals will not affect liver.
Has learned from experience. HMMMMMMMM.

 

[jochensa]

Your comments definately are proof that a majority of these posts know more about this than you do. Winny is not really used for mass gains in the first place. Research, & books is how you learn. You are not born a lawyer and Engineer or a doctor. you have to read and research and ask questions. Take your own advice where did you get your info? Did your friend tell you because if he did you should discount his knowledge from now on for your own good and before you taint others with incorrect information just read and learn.

for the record i dont need test, like it, or condone it.I gain on anything. winny, var, eq etc all put on size. everybody's body is diff. i cant believe i am writing this again and again. seldom tho do you get a person that has walked the streets and read books. I have done both. you ever notice that the ones that follow do that forever and the ones that lead pull away from the pack. read my posts and theirs, not even close!!!

 

[xrsist]

someone bomb this cock sucker back to the dessert please! i guess you know where osama is hiding too!

 

[jochensa]

someone bomb this cock sucker back to the dessert please! i guess you know where osama is hiding too!

dont you have tag football to play?

 

[CO B-man]

The fact that he is 19 is irrelevant. i used at 19 to start as a freshmen on a d 1 team.

So you are saying that since his liver is not fully developed until the ages of 23-25 much like the frontal lobe of a persons brain and the fact that it can in fact keep him from growing any taller has nothing to do with anything because he is 19?

Also two orals might not hurt you, it might not hurt me but to un uneducated 19 year old that probably drinks beer with his buddies all the time and since his liver is not yet fully developed it is possible that it could not only harm him but kill him since you pretty much need your liver.

Why do you think the kids you hear dying from alcohol poisoning are always teeny boppers? Because there liver can not handle doses like you can when you are older yet!

You are spewing incredibly wrong information all over this thread. You need to realize young kids come in here and believe what they want and when people post wrong things that they want to believe they end up using that as a self justification and do stupid things. Not only that they tell their friends to do stupid things. Thats why you are getting flamed in here.

Truth is you are probably pretty cool but you are going to get some kids hurt in here

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

for the record i dont need test, like it, or condone it.I gain on anything. winny, var, eq etc all put on size. everybody's body is diff. i cant believe i am writing this again and again. seldom tho do you get a person that has walked the streets and read books. I have done both. you ever notice that the ones that follow do that forever and the ones that lead pull away from the pack. read my posts and theirs, not even close!!!

There are only two ways you get credibility on this board. 1) Consistently give good advice. That means not telling people that you should sauce at any age, orals are plenty healthy so don't worry about it or that test is bad because you did sten and it didn't work well for you. that's like drinking a bottle of Thunderbird and finding out it tastes like shit then saying all wine must taste like shit.. 2) post pics of yourself - show that you are a product of the product. You've got to come in here and get to know the bro's and get a feel for their personalities and their sarcastic nature before talking shit. I'm not the biggest or baddest or leanest guy on this board but I know when I walk around their aren't a ton of guys my age that look like me. I am proud of what i've accomplished just like you are.

 

[CO B-man]

for the record i dont need test, like it, or condone it.I gain on anything. winny, var, eq etc all put on size. everybody's body is diff. i cant believe i am writing this again and again. seldom tho do you get a person that has walked the streets and read books. I have done both. you ever notice that the ones that follow do that forever and the ones that lead pull away from the pack. read my posts and theirs, not even close!!!

First post I agree with. All I am saying is be careful what information you are feeding the younger guys. They are dieing for someone to just tell them, what they want to hear.

 

[jochensa]

So you are saying that since his liver is not fully developed until the ages of 23-25 much like the frontal lobe of a persons brain and the fact that it can in fact keep him from growing any taller has nothing to do with anything because he is 19?

Also two orals might not hurt you, it might not hurt me but to un uneducated 19 year old that probably drinks beer with his buddies all the time and since his liver is not yet fully developed it is possible that it could not only harm him but kill him since you pretty much need your liver.

Why do you think the kids you hear dying from alcohol poisoning are always teeny boppers? Because there liver can not handle doses like you can when you are older yet!

You are spewing incredibly wrong information all over this thread. You need to realize young kids come in here and believe what they wasnt and when people post wrong things that they want to believe they end up using that as a self justification and do stupid things. Not only that they tell their friends to do stupid things. Thats why you are getting flamed in here.

Truth is you are probably pretty cool but you are going to get some kids hurt in here

I do agree with ya a bit. I was going to throw in the no boozing thots but figured it was not needed. I was going by personal exp. my 1st cycle was prop actually didnt do much, sten for 2nd dirty filthy, next sust adrol popped like a ballon (lost everything) hip hurt like hell too. it was a see-saw of ups and downs. when i took 100 2mg winny during the next spring I was 6'2" 225 solid as a rock I absolutely destroyed people on the field. you are probably laughing about the 2mg winny but it workrd for me. This was all before I was 22. Plus a few I forgot I am sure. Test when I was young tho was like poison to my body, now not so much. But I still get gyno off of one shot of testoviron a week. So for me test has to be at very very low doses.

So when I give advice I give it from a very skewed perspective. If I was 19 trying to looking better I wold do exactly like I said in the original post. cuz believe me you have no idea how many drugs these kids are doing. I dont think it is the juice that will hurt them. its the weed, oc's, coke, etc that is left out of the equation when they die. The only thing found is the empty amps and such. Anyway I only say what I would do, what I have seen, what I would do again.

 

[xrsist]

dont you have tag football to play?

tag football... what are you on dick head? you obviously know nothing about Australia, we play 2 of the hardest games of football here, NRL and AFL without any protection padding. go and fuck your camel!

 

[hesnobradpitt]

tag football... what are you on dick head? you obviously know nothing about Australia, we play 2 of the hardest games of football here, NRL and AFL without any protection padding. go and fuck your camel!

Yer go the roo"s Micky Martin hard as fuck that guy

 

[jochensa]

tag football... what are you on dick head? you obviously know nothing about Australia, we play 2 of the hardest games of football here, NRL and AFL without any protection padding. go and fuck your camel!

god if I hear one more englishman or aussie talk shight about how tuff flag football is I am gonna puke...haha they compared playing real football (usa style) to withstanding the equivalent of 30 full out collisions into a brick wall. so being a tuff game isnt due to the fact that we play with each other in the huddle, in your case scrum. nor do we play dirty ie kick each other and trip each other...illegal in americano FB

 

[xrsist]

Yer go the roo"s Micky Martin hard as fuck that guy

that he is! cant go past sonny bill williams tho, like running into a brick wall!

 

[xrsist]

god if I hear one more englishman or aussie talk shight about how tuff flag football is I am gonna puke...haha they compared playing real football (usa style) to withstanding the equivalent of 30 full out collisions into a brick wall. so being a tuff game isnt due to the fact that we play with each other in the huddle, in your case scrum. nor do we play dirty ie kick each other and trip each other...illegal in americano FB

you obviously havent seen NRL recently have you? its harder than usa style football and no padding, try having to run the ball thru 4 guys that are 110kgs plus with no padding and very little rules.. without requiring the services of your camel, cock head!

 

[jochensa]

you obviously havent seen NRL recently have you? its harder than usa style football and no padding, try having to run the ball thru 4 guys that are 110kgs plus with no padding and very little rules.. without requiring the services of your camel, cock head!

You guys love the no pads thing. the collisions are nothing like american football. I have watched the games, there is no running thru guys or over like in usa football. any running back in th pros here would be a hall of famer in rfc or arf whatever the abreviations may be. If sonny is all ya got then 6'3' 225 might not even start here in the us honeslty. Because there are guys playing USA FB that are 6'4 260 that run just like sonny or faster......even bigger than that. you have to realize that there are olympic caliper athletes playing pro football over here. the very lil rules part just adds a cheapness factor to the game. all my boys that couldnt make the college football team played rugby instead and were good at it haha.

 

[xrsist]

You guys love the no pads thing. the collisions are nothing like american football. I have watched the games, there is no running thru guys or over like in usa football. any running back in th pros here would be a hall of famer in rfc or arf whatever the abreviations may be. If sonny is all ya got then 6'3' 225 might not even start here in the us honeslty. Because there are guys playing USA FB that are 6'4 260 that run just like sonny or faster......even bigger than that. you have to realize that there are olympic caliper athletes playing pro football over here. the very lil rules part just adds a cheapness factor to the game. all my boys that couldnt make the college football team played rugby instead and were good at it haha.

two different games, aussie rules football or national rugby league, im talking NRL, collisions are harder you cant compare, watch last years state of origin series, your wide recievers are 80kgs (respectable) and you forwards are 160 kgs grosly over weight and couldnt run 50 to save their lives. find me someone 260 that can run a 10-12sec 100m. i remember the press doin a comparesment and american players saying were crazy not wearing pads! no cheapness just gota harden up! ohh and go n fuck your camel! and just tell us where osama is were all sick of looking for him!

 

[jochensa]

two different games, aussie rules football or national rugby league, im talking NRL, collisions are harder you cant compare, watch last years state of origin series, your wide recievers are 80kgs (respectable) and you forwards are 160 kgs grosly over weight and couldnt run 50 to save their lives. find me someone 260 that can run a 10-12sec 100m. i remember the press doin a comparesment and american players saying were crazy not wearing pads! no cheapness just gota harden up! ohh and go n fuck your camel! and just tell us where osama is were all sick of looking for him!

we dont have to run 100 meters at a time unless. sorry pal but if sonny could run the 100 meters in 10sec he would be in the olympics. aussie rules football is like a bunch of thugs that too much to drink in a bar. oh important fact the NFL players used to not wear pads. but too many players were getting killed.....fact buddy. and we here in the USA dont make comparisions cuz there is no need. I mean if sonny was so good why wouldnt he say f it I want to make 20 million a year in the states rather than 1 mill max a year down under. altho, your girls are hotter!!!!!!

 

[xrsist]

im sick of talking to this dick head. i never said SBW can run 100 in 10secs nor did i ever mention SBW to this camel jockey. to the rest of you bros in the states dont get me wrong i do enjoy watching gridiron, no disrespect intened, rugby is a harder game but you guys get paid far too much!! haha. cheers boys

 

[Sh4nk]

This will be an unpopular reply, but here goes:

Finish the cycle. You will make some small gains and have a safe first experience. You are already past GO, so why not?

Oh sure ... there are much better choices and you know that. But there is no harm with this.

Alright thanks man, I was just looking for a answer and finally get it 3 pages later...

 

[solidspine]

19, don't even think about gear for 5 more years, don't take gear at 19,

do some basic research, you bought some thing from some dude on the street?

Sounds like a joke, or a poor story line in a soap opera

Don't do gear at your age, your bones will be shot by the time you are thirty.

 

[odoyal rulez]

lol ignore the good advice posts and quote the ones you want to hear...absolutely classic..

 

[jochensa]

i dont know pal when me all my team-mates were 19. we did what we to do or wanted to do to get in shape. alot of these guys on here dont realize that the andro, 1 ad or halotestin are just as harmful (or more) to your body as the sauce. for me I get gyno and a ton of acne on that shit. i have been working out since i was 12 and it has been a total of 24 yrs. couple that with a masters of exercise science, I think I know what I am talking about. funny tho for all the book smart folks on here. the 1st thing they teach you in exsci 130 is that steroids dont work. this is coming from a woman whose textbook we were using and has her PHD in exsci. dont believe everthing you read fellas!!

 

[rock75]

All right thanks man. So I should be ok with just winny for the 60 days then...

Just another tool looking for a shortcut. 2 weeks to get a 6 pack?

 

[CO B-man]

Gents, we got through to him. He believes us and said he will probably stop from a pm he sent to me.

Kudos to him for taking everyones advice and kudos to those that gave him good advice.

 

[Sh4nk]

Gents, we got through to him. He believes us and said he will probably stop from a pm he sent to me.

Kudos to him for taking everyones advice and kudos to those that gave him good advice.

One last question, if i stop right now, would those 7 days be long enough to give me any nasty side effects? Anything i need to look out for? Do I come off it completly or do I need to slowly stop? Also have some novadex as well, would like to return it if its not needed though.