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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7N46IENb_E
 
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It was kind of a rip of Conrad's "Heart of Darkness".



"Terminate, with extreme prejudice."
 
The film was released in 1979, but the screenplay was written, or at least outlined, in the late 1960s by John Milius. It takes place in post-Tet-Offensive Vietnam and Cambodia circa 1969.
 
Jimmy_Dean said:
beverly hills
WILLARD
You still got a commanding officer
here?

SOLDIER
Beverly Hills.

WILLARD
What?

SOLDIER
Right up the road there's a concrete
bunker called Beverly Hills. Where
the fuck else do you think it would
be?
 
Mr. dB said:
The film was released in 1979, but the screenplay was written, or at least outlined, in the late 1960s by John Milius. It takes place in post-Tet-Offensive Vietnam and Cambodia circa 1969.
what scene?
roach?
beverly hills?
fuck you G.I. fuck you!
 
The scene where Roach uses a grenade launcher to kill the NVA soldier in the wire during the scene at the Do Long bridge is taken directly from "Dispatches," Herr's memoir as a freelance Marine journalist during the war.
 
shit I owe you 20 grand too
B.I.G. does
he's asleep
I'll tell him tomorrow just remind me
far better answer than DB too
 
"Commitment and Counterinsurgency"
by Walter E. Kurtz. "As long as
our officers and troops perform
tours of duty limited to one year,
they will remain dilettantes in
war, and tourists in Vietnam. As
long as cold beer, hot food, rock
'n' roll, and all the other
amenities remain expected norm,
our conduct of the war will only
gain impotence. We need fewer
men, and better. If they were
committed, this war could be won
with a fourth of our present force."


WILLARD (V.O.)
Late summer, autumn 1968. Kurtz's
patrol into the highlands is coming
under frequent bush. The camp
started falling apart. November.
Kurtz orders assassinations of
three Vietnamese men and one woman.
Two of the men were colonels in
the South Vietnamese Army. Enemy
activity in his old sector dropped
off to nothing. Guess he must
have hit the right four people.

WILLARD (V.O.)
The army tried one last time to
bring him back into the fold. And
if he'd pulled over, it would have
been forgotten.
WILLARD (V.O.)
They lost him. He was gone.
Nothing but rumors and random
intelligence, mostly from captured
V.C. The V.C. knew his name by
now, and they were scared of him.
He and his men were playing hit
and run all the way into Cambodia.

WILLARD (V.O.)
(reading letter)
"Dear Son. I'm afraid that both
you and your mother will have
worried at not hearing from me
during the past weeks, but my
situation here has become a
difficult one. I have been
officially accused of murder by
the army. The alleged victims
were four Vietnamese double agents.
We spent months uncovering then
and accumulating evidence. When
absolute proof was completed, we
acted. We acted like soldiers.
The charges are unjustified. They
are, in fact, and under the
circumstances of this conflict,
quite completely insane."
WILLARD (V.O.)
(continuing reading
letter)
"In a war, there are many moments
for compassion and tender action.
There are many moments for ruthless
action. What is often called
ruthless, but may, in many
circumstances, be only clarity.
Seeing clearly what there is to be
done, and doing it directly,
quickly, awake.


WILLARD (V.O.)
(continuing reading
letter)
"I will trust you tell your mother
what you choose about this letter.
As for the charges against me, I
am unconcerned. I am beyond their
timid, lying morality, and so I am
beyond caring. You have all my
faith. Your loving father.



WILLARD (V.O.)
It was a way we had over here of
living with ourselves. We'd cut
them in half with a machine gun,
and give them a Band-Aid. It was
a lie. And the more I saw of them,
the more I hated liars. Those
boys were never gonna look at me
the same way again, but I felt
like I knew one or two things about
Kurtz, that weren't in the dossier.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
The scene where Roach uses a grenade launcher to kill the NVA soldier in the wire during the scene at the Do Long bridge is taken directly from "Dispatches," Herr's memoir as a freelance Marine journalist during the war.
Do Lung bridge was the last army outpost on the Nung River.
Beyond it there was only Kurtz.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
The scene where Roach uses a grenade launcher to kill the NVA soldier in the wire during the scene at the Do Long bridge is taken directly from "Dispatches," Herr's memoir as a freelance Marine journalist during the war.
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I didn't know that myself
I'll likely add "Dispatches" to my amazon list
 
PuddleMonkey said:
Been awhile since I watched the movie. Book has been recommended to me many times.
so let's talley it up

the redux(additional 90 minutes) version of the film
Conrad's "heart of darkness"
that marine's "dispatches"
the '69 script "psychedelic soldier"
 
Spartacus said:
"Commitment and Counterinsurgency"
by Walter E. Kurtz. "As long as
our officers and troops perform
tours of duty limited to one year,
they will remain dilettantes in
war, and tourists in Vietnam. As
long as cold beer, hot food, rock
'n' roll, and all the other
amenities remain expected norm,
our conduct of the war will only
gain impotence. We need fewer
men, and better. If they were
committed, this war could be won
with a fourth of our present force."


WILLARD (V.O.)
Late summer, autumn 1968. Kurtz's
patrol into the highlands is coming
under frequent bush. The camp
started falling apart. November.
Kurtz orders assassinations of
three Vietnamese men and one woman.
Two of the men were colonels in
the South Vietnamese Army. Enemy
activity in his old sector dropped
off to nothing. Guess he must
have hit the right four people.

WILLARD (V.O.)
The army tried one last time to
bring him back into the fold. And
if he'd pulled over, it would have
been forgotten.
WILLARD (V.O.)
They lost him. He was gone.
Nothing but rumors and random
intelligence, mostly from captured
V.C. The V.C. knew his name by
now, and they were scared of him.
He and his men were playing hit
and run all the way into Cambodia.

WILLARD (V.O.)
(reading letter)
"Dear Son. I'm afraid that both
you and your mother will have
worried at not hearing from me
during the past weeks, but my
situation here has become a
difficult one. I have been
officially accused of murder by
the army. The alleged victims
were four Vietnamese double agents.
We spent months uncovering then
and accumulating evidence. When
absolute proof was completed, we
acted. We acted like soldiers.
The charges are unjustified. They
are, in fact, and under the
circumstances of this conflict,
quite completely insane."
WILLARD (V.O.)
(continuing reading
letter)
"In a war, there are many moments
for compassion and tender action.
There are many moments for ruthless
action. What is often called
ruthless, but may, in many
circumstances, be only clarity.
Seeing clearly what there is to be
done, and doing it directly,
quickly, awake.


WILLARD (V.O.)
(continuing reading
letter)
"I will trust you tell your mother
what you choose about this letter.
As for the charges against me, I
am unconcerned. I am beyond their
timid, lying morality, and so I am
beyond caring. You have all my
faith. Your loving father.



WILLARD (V.O.)
It was a way we had over here of
living with ourselves. We'd cut
them in half with a machine gun,
and give them a Band-Aid. It was
a lie. And the more I saw of them,
the more I hated liars. Those
boys were never gonna look at me
the same way again, but I felt
like I knew one or two things about
Kurtz, that weren't in the dossier.
the complete Kurtz dossier
 
You think we look pretty good together
You think my shoes are made of leather

But I'm a substitute for another guy
I look pretty tall but my heels are high
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young, but I'm just back-dated, yeah

Substitute your lies for fact
I can see right through your plastic mac
I look all white, but my dad was black
My fine looking suit is really made out of sack

I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth
The north side of my town faced east, and the east was facing south
And now you dare to look me in the eye
Those crocodile tears are what you cry
It's a genuine problem, you won't try
To work it out at all you just pass it by, pass it by

Substitute me for him
Substitute my coke for gin
Substitute you for my mum
At least I'll get my washing done
 
I think he knows what Rome is.
Rome is the mob.
Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it's the sand of the coliseum. He'll bring them death - and they will love him for it.
 
In a war, there are many moments
for compassion and tender action.
There are many moments for ruthless
action. What is often called
ruthless, but may, in many
circumstances, be only clarity.
 
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