Herbs while ON Test.

[Paulos]

I'm running 150mg Prop E3D...my dick seems to be fine half of the time...which is better than none of the time before...but would adding Avena Sativa, Maca, and/or Tribulus do anything to help? I also have L-Argining, Nettle Root, Horny Goat Weed, and Muira Puama.

 

[paul allen]

I'm running 150mg Prop E3D...my dick seems to be fine half of the time...which is better than none of the time before...but would adding Avena Sativa, Maca, and/or Tribulus do anything to help? I also have L-Argining, Nettle Root, Horny Goat Weed, and Muira Puama.

I hear ya bro, deca fucked me over too, I only did 300 for 8 as well, never again.
Avena is worth a try to lower SHBG, so to get more of your prop free. I always found it best taken at night, gives me great mornin wood. Arginine also quite good taken hour or so before nailing her. Not done it while on cycle yet though. I've been off for so long trying to get fully recovered, but I'm not sure if I'll ever be the same - FUCK DECA

 

[Paulos]

Re: Re: Herbs while ON Test.

I hear ya bro, deca fucked me over too, I only did 300 for 8 as well, never again.
Avena is worth a try to lower SHBG, so to get more of your prop free. I always found it best taken at night, gives me great mornin wood. Arginine also quite good taken hour or so before nailing her. Not done it while on cycle yet though. I've been off for so long trying to get fully recovered, but I'm not sure if I'll ever be the same - FUCK DECA

Man all I did was 300 for 8 weeks too.

I'm staying on test for a while until I see some change...when I come off this time I'm going to have the motherfucking arsenal awaiting. PCT will consist of HCG, Clomid, Nolva, Unleashed, Post Cycle, and absolutely anything else I can find.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Using avena during a cycle will actually make the most of your cycle by allowing more of the T to become active.

Fuck deca, indeed.

 

[Paulos]

Using avena during a cycle will actually make the most of your cycle by allowing more of the T to become active.

Fuck deca, indeed.

What about Maca, Tribulus, or any of the other herbs?

 

[psychedout]

LOL - Im another deca hater -- first cycle was deca/eq -- bye bye sex drive. Took a few months to get it back.

The herbs you have listed should help you -- I also feel zinc helps my sex drive -- although I don't use it when on cycle.

 

[Anakin]

Nelson, do you think using avena and the other herbs on cycle will diminish their effectiveness as a post-cycle tool?

Since you recommend up to 3 grams of avena and some proviron for post cycle, what do you think is a reasonable dose while on cycle? I've been using avena at 1.5 grams a day for a few months with great results (I've also been geting hair growth in my back and more hair on my chest since I started this.... maybe it's a coincidence I don't know.)

Plus, I believe that winstrol lowers SHBG, so is it pointless to take avena while using winstrol?

 

[doublebicep]

What about Maca, Tribulus, or any of the other herbs?

Maca would be a good one to add:

Cut/paste from BAC:
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MACA - extract is from a tuber of a plant from high altitudes of the Peruvian Andes. Cultivated by the Incas for at least 2000 years, it has been shown to have value as a nutritive, antifatigue, aphrodisiac, immunostimulant, & tonic. The worldwide popularity of maca is growing due to its energizing effects; enhancement of fertility and sexual functioning for men & women; normalizing menstrual and menopausal function; promoting mental clarity; increasing endurance; and use by bodybuilders because of maca sterol content. About 1g per day is normal dose. Mild taste.

I have tried tribulus, I was not impressed. I stick with Maca and Avena Sativa.

cut/paste from BAC:

TRIBULUS terrestris, Tribulus Goldtm, the original Bulgarian whole-herb, is >45% steroidal saponins, increases LH & free testosterone up to 30% in males and FSH in females. Studied extensively for sexual functioning and strength and muscle building by the Bulgarians, it does not increase testicular tissue, yet it is reported to increase sperm functioning, the duration of erections, and intensity of orgasms in both normal and sexually dysfunctional males. In women it has helped symptoms of PMS and menopause. Other studies showed lower blood pressure, cholesterol, & other cardiovascular benefits, improved kidney function, antiinflammatory activity, and increased libido in both sexes. For building muscle, stack with anabolics or androstenes.

 

[Izzman]

Using avena during a cycle will actually make the most of your cycle by allowing more of the T to become active.

Fuck deca, indeed.

Would it really make that much more of a difference while being on 500mg Test a week? I was thinking about this but wasn't too sure, can exogenous test really be bound due to SHBG?

 

[DeepZenPill]

I use Avena Sativa on cycle and off. My sex drive was off the charts on test with avena sativa.