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steve alder

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As a user Im quiet sensitive to the odd bitch tit or so. Previously I have found the taking arimadex helps to break this down a little. Although I am aware that I should have started my cycle taking the arimadex. But hey we live and learn. And better late than never.
A guy in the gym made a comment that whilst Im using growth at the moment if I injected it into my peck around the nipple area it can help to disperse some of the tissue. He commented that it had worked for him a little in the past whilst he was competing. After all he said its only fatty tissue???
Does anyone have any advice on this area. Or experienced anything similar to this. And is it safe to inject growth in the lower pec area.
Any advice would be appreciated
 
i've heard of things you can shoot into your pec to "help" with gyno.....growth was def. not one of them. Like was said, please don't listen to the monkey who told you this.
 
Thats the dumbest shit I've ever heard of. Letro will reduce your gyno. Surgery will destroy it. Im saving up for it as we speak.
 
I'm gettin ready to start saving as well. I have had it for as long as I can remember and it drives me nuts. I'm gonna try to low bodyfat route first and if I can still see it I'm getting it cut out.
 
low bodyfat is a good idea.

If you require surgery it will be easier to make them symmetrical because of the low bodyfat.
 
a bomb said:
Thats the dumbest shit I've ever heard of. Letro will reduce your gyno. Surgery will destroy it. Im saving up for it as we speak.
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well the thread is titled "helping to remove bitch titz"
...LETRO "helps" remove bitch tits.

then he says "A guy in the gym made a comment that whilst Im using growth at the moment if I injected it into my peck around the nipple area it can help to disperse some of the tissue. He commented that it had worked for him a little in the past whilst he was competing"
...ummmm ...i would venture to guess LETRO would work better than gh at reducing gyno.

a low BF will only further enhance your gyno reducing / eliminating efforts.

LETRO has been recommended by MOD's and VET's alike to prevent and treat gyno on many boards including this one.

you say surgery destroys gyno ...but if that's true then how come plenty people have complained about getting gyno again after their surgery?

so are you sure that the dumbest shit you ever heard???
 
steve alder said:
As a user Im quiet sensitive to the odd bitch tit or so. Previously I have found the taking arimadex helps to break this down a little. Although I am aware that I should have started my cycle taking the arimadex. But hey we live and learn. And better late than never.
A guy in the gym made a comment that whilst Im using growth at the moment if I injected it into my peck around the nipple area it can help to disperse some of the tissue. He commented that it had worked for him a little in the past whilst he was competing. After all he said its only fatty tissue???
Does anyone have any advice on this area. Or experienced anything similar to this. And is it safe to inject growth in the lower pec area.
Any advice would be appreciated
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gyno is not chest fat. gyno is hard breast tissue that has formed. fat, is just fat
 
a bomb said:
Thats the dumbest shit I've ever heard of. Letro will reduce your gyno. Surgery will destroy it. Im saving up for it as we speak.
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My insurance covered mine.. saved me $5k, and I dont have the best insurance either!
 
GH to remove gyno. I think not...in fact, in some cases, Gyno actually results from hGH:

Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 1993 Oct;39(4):417-25.
Carpal tunnel syndrome and gynaecomastia during growth hormone treatment of elderly men with low circulating IGF-I concentrations.Cohn L, Feller AG, Draper MW, Rudman IW, Rudman D.
Department of Medicine, Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee.

OBJECTIVE--We studied the relationship between plasma level of insulin-like growth hormone I (IGF-I), changes in lean body mass and in adipose mass, and adverse side-effects during human growth hormone (hGH) treatment of elderly men who had low IGF-I levels. DESIGN--The first six months was a period of baseline observation. The subjects were then randomized into two groups so that during months 7-18, men in group I received hGH, and men in group II served as untreated controls. SUBJECTS--Eighty-three overtly healthy elderly men, who were selected because their plasma IGF-I level was less than 0.35 units/ml. The men were randomly assigned in a ratio of three to one into group I (n = 62) or into group II (n = 21). MEASUREMENTS--Plasma IGF-I level was measured monthly. Lean body mass and adipose mass were measured every six months. RESULTS--Fifteen men left the study during the baseline period because of personal reasons or intercurrent medical events. In those who received drug (group I), there were a number of adverse reactions which could have been related to the hGH therapy: carpal tunnel syndrome 10, gynaecomastia 4, and hyperglycaemia 3. In total there were 27 dropouts from group I and two dropouts from group II after the six-month point, for a variety of medical and non-medical reasons, the majority probably not related to hGH therapy. During the hGH treatment of group I, plasma IGF-I increased from the range 0.10-0.35 units/ml into the range 0.5-2.2 units/ml. Among the 18 men who completed 12 months of hGH treatment without experiencing one of the three above-noted presumed hGH side-effects, mean and peak plasma IGF-I during treatment were significantly lower than among the 13 men who experienced carpal tunnel syndrome or gynaecomastia (one subject had both) while on hGH. With one exception, neither carpal tunnel syndrome nor gynaecomastia occurred in any individual with a mean IGF-I level less than 1.0 units/ml during hGH treatment. Twelve months of hGH treatment (group I) caused an increase in lean body mass to 106% of the initial baseline (month one of the protocol), and a reduction in adipose mass to 84% of the baseline. Meanwhile, the lean body mass of the untreated men in group II declined to 97% of the initial baseline. The body composition responses after 12 months of treatment in group I were larger in the men whose mean intra-treatment IGF-I level was 0.5-1.0 units/ml, than in the men whose mean intra-treatment IGF-I level was 1.0-1.5 units/ml. CONCLUSIONS--These observations show that when elderly men with low circulating IGF-I concentrations are treated continuously with hGH, elevation of plasma IGF-I above 1.0 units/ml is associated with a substantial frequency of carpal tunnel syndrome or gynaecomastia. It may be that the effects of the hormone in expanding lean body mass and reducing adipose mass can be achieved, and the side-effects avoided, by maintaining the mean IGF-I level in the range 0.5-1.0 units/ml.
 
If all it is is fatty tissue, diet can help some, but lipo would get rid of it for sure. Only way it would come back is if you started getting fat!
 
Is this fat we are talking about, or gyno? Gyno is hard material, and fat is - well fat. If it is fat the HGH could help, as is does work site specific to an extent.

If it is fat, try the hgh, YES, and cardio. Get BF low and it will be gone. When my bf is high I deposit fat on the chest quite easily.
 
a PM from A BOMB to me entitled "My fault"
"Man I just realized that my post was not quoted from the orignal poster asking for help. It appeared that I was saying that your post was dumb. I am a firm believer in Letro and use it quite often. Your post was good and accurate. I totally meant for my reply to be quoted. Sorry bro. I'll try and diffuse the bomb."

well since you didn't mind bombing me in public ...the least you could have done is posted your mistake in public as well ...see doing that and giving me back the karma you took, would have been the "right" thing to do
...so i took the liberty of doing it for you

then on you bomb, you make matters worse by insulting me and calling me a "condescending dick" ...when nothing i said was condescending.

here, now this is an example of being a condescending dick..................

i'm getting the feeling that your angry titz are pushing you hands out of the way and typing these moody posts and throwing these bullshit bombs ...so why don't you just get yourself a bra and a cheap convertible with your gyno money instead and embrace your tits! ...maybe then you'd be a little less bitter.

PS ...i think you'd look bitchin' in an older miata!

there ...i forgive you
 
THE GOOD SUN said:
you say surgery destroys gyno ...but if that's true then how come plenty people have complained about getting gyno again after their surgery?
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it is my understanding that surgery removes existing gyno but does not prevent future gyno
kinda like liposuction will remove excess fat but dosent prevent the remaining fat from becoming bigger and making you look fat again

didnt the rock have gyno surgery more than once??????
 
acneman said:
it is my understanding that surgery removes existing gyno but does not prevent future gyno
kinda like liposuction will remove excess fat but dosent prevent the remaining fat from becoming bigger and making you look fat again

didnt the rock have gyno surgery more than once??????
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if they remove the gland it can prevent future gyno yes
 
drrman said:
if they remove the gland it can prevent future gyno yes
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i see so gyno is the growth of the male mamary gland only?
i thought it was the fatty tissue as well.
thanks
 
awwwwwwww had to G-BOMB me?

what's the matter can't deal???

you're so fuckin' weak

don't get mad at me just cuz you got mood swings and a nice set of knockers.

you should get yourself a breast pump ...that way you can at least milk'em and be able to say you use 'em to supplement your protein intake and not just to attract other trannies!

what really pissed me off is what you wrote in the first bomb " Yes injecting GH into your pec to remove gyno is dumb shit. Don't be such a condescending dick." ...so basically anybody that read the bomb might actually think that i suggested or supported injecting GH into your gyno

oh and you said you were going to defuse the bomb ...that was just taking you all day, which means you must have really been sorry :rolleyes: cuz you made it such a priority to fix it ...but it didn't take you anytime at all after i posted for you to go buy a g-bomb for me ...so i guess i was supposed to look like an idiot all day for you, in all of my posts, cuz of the bullshit you wrote in the bomb while you got around to fixing it??? ...sorry wrong guy
a-bomb? ...it's more like a-hole!
next time try using your wits instead of your tits

PS ...special thanks to CO B-man for the defuse
 
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acneman said:
it is my understanding that surgery removes existing gyno but does not prevent future gyno
kinda like liposuction will remove excess fat but dosent prevent the remaining fat from becoming bigger and making you look fat again

didnt the rock have gyno surgery more than once??????
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Dunno if he had it more than once, but he has had the glands removed as of "Walking Tall" - you can see a sort of "indent" there where they used to be.
 
ok did a little research and according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia
most often it is caused :
wikipedia.org said:
from hypertrophy of either breast tissue or pectoral adipose tissue, and often a combination of the two. Breast prominence due solely to excessive adipose is often termed pseudogynecomastia.
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http://www.gynecomastia.org/content/general/delgadofaq.shtml
states that it can re-occur so i assume that either the whole breast organ is not generally removed or fatty tissue gyno will re-occur. a womens breast is comprised of both and there fore i assume male gyno is the same correct?
gynecomastia.org said:
Does it matter what causes gynecomastia?

Yes, if gynecomastia is drug induced-i.e., steroids, or excessive marijuana use it will re-occur. There(fore), any drug use should be discontinued before surgery.
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not argueing im lookin for discussion
these web sites are not infallible
 
KD1 said:
Dunno if he had it more than once, but he has had the glands removed as of "Walking Tall" - you can see a sort of "indent" there where they used to be.
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in his wrestlin days i saw white scarring that didnt tan like the rest of his body around his nipple
and then he admitted to lipo around the date of walking tall and stated it was to remove chest fat he was not happy with
so i was just guessin
 
steve alder said:
As a user Im quiet sensitive to the odd bitch tit or so. Previously I have found the taking arimadex helps to break this down a little. Although I am aware that I should have started my cycle taking the arimadex. But hey we live and learn. And better late than never.
A guy in the gym made a comment that whilst Im using growth at the moment if I injected it into my peck around the nipple area it can help to disperse some of the tissue. He commented that it had worked for him a little in the past whilst he was competing. After all he said its only fatty tissue???
Does anyone have any advice on this area. Or experienced anything similar to this. And is it safe to inject growth in the lower pec area.
Any advice would be appreciated
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That's got to be added to the Top 100 stupidest "a guy at the gym told me" quotes.
I suggest you get AIFM because it's much more effective than Arimidex. And shoot in your Glutes or Quads.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
I can speak first hand on arimdex, and the shit sucks ass..
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arimidex seems to keep me dry but as far as stopping gyno or swollen nips it did not work but letro on the other hand has worked wonders for me i had some gyno tissue from old usage years ago letro and cuased it to shrink and go away .
but yea i feel the same way abour arimdex unless your at 1-2mg a day it is not usefull for me ether other then to take alittle bloat off the face
 
chazk said:
arimidex seems to keep me dry but as far as stopping gyno or swollen nips it did not work but letro on the other hand has worked wonders for me i had some gyno tissue from old usage years ago letro and cuased it to shrink and go away .
but yea i feel the same way abour arimdex unless your at 1-2mg a day it is not usefull for me ether other then to take alittle bloat off the face
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It doenst help gyno worth a shit.. Before I had the surgery, I started using 1mg/ed than eventually went to 2mg/ed. After 1 month, no change whatsoever.. Jumped on some nolvadex I had laying around, and within 1 week, the symptoms started to reside. Aromasin would be my first choice, but nolvadex is still very good as well. Never tried the AIFM everyone talks about, but that seems to get some great feedback.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
It doenst help gyno worth a shit.. Before I had the surgery, I started using 1mg/ed than eventually went to 2mg/ed. After 1 month, no change whatsoever.. Jumped on some nolvadex I had laying around, and within 1 week, the symptoms started to reside. Aromasin would be my first choice, but nolvadex is still very good as well. Never tried the AIFM everyone talks about, but that seems to get some great feedback.
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I'am using Nolva during my cycle and when I get the puffy nips, I take 20mg about every 4th day(dont want it to reduce my gains) and about 15 mins after I take it, they are back to normal for awhile. This is the only gear site I have seen AIFM w/ such a huge following. I will try it next cycle.
 
acneman said:
ok did a little research and according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynecomastia
most often it is caused :


http://www.gynecomastia.org/content/general/delgadofaq.shtml
states that it can re-occur so i assume that either the whole breast organ is not generally removed or fatty tissue gyno will re-occur. a womens breast is comprised of both and there fore i assume male gyno is the same correct?

not argueing im lookin for discussion
these web sites are not infallible
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i have always been under the imression that if the entire gland is removed, it is impossible for gyno to come back. of course fat tissue can come back if you are sensitive to chest fat. but im talking about breast tissue
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
It doenst help gyno worth a shit.. Before I had the surgery, I started using 1mg/ed than eventually went to 2mg/ed. After 1 month, no change whatsoever.. Jumped on some nolvadex I had laying around, and within 1 week, the symptoms started to reside. Aromasin would be my first choice, but nolvadex is still very good as well. Never tried the AIFM everyone talks about, but that seems to get some great feedback.
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Is it the Letrozole or the Arimidex that you're saying didn't help your gyno?
 
SwolK said:
i have always been under the imression that if the entire gland is removed, it is impossible for gyno to come back. of course fat tissue can come back if you are sensitive to chest fat. but im talking about breast tissue
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yeah that seems to be the consensus of the board
 
SwolK said:
i have always been under the imression that if the entire gland is removed, it is impossible for gyno to come back. of course fat tissue can come back if you are sensitive to chest fat. but im talking about breast tissue
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Correct sir! I had 3 different opinions before I had the surgery, and this is what every doc told me! If gland is removed, gyno wont come back, but fat tissue can come back if you are prone to it. I never asked about the breast tissue. What exactly do you mean by that?
 
SwolK said:
gyno is not chest fat. gyno is hard breast tissue that has formed. fat, is just fat
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I had gyno so bad I believe I was at a 32C cup! Shit. It was very embarrassing! Especially after I've sweated and all you can see is those twoo breast sticking out from my shirt! Wet T-shirt, Baby! Damn! Gyno isn't characteristic of the male hormone system so there has to be a imbalance. I thought there has to be a way to get rid of this without the costly surgery. And being that this tissue is feminine and not masculine tissue, I should be able to get rid of it. But the cost would be that all my muscular gains will go in a matter of three to four months. I begin juice and distilled water fasts over a period lasting roughly five months. I didn't care about losing anywhere from 80-90lb. while on the fasts, my concern was getting rid of the gyno!!! While on the fasts, I did isometrics to help keep the muscles firmed and toned so not to lose too much muscle tissue and allow the body to use a little bit more fat than muscle for energy. My mistake was I didn't take any anti-estrogens while I was training. Didn't think I would need them. Wrong as Hell!! I know to take them now. Now that the gyno is gone, I'm very cautious about my chest, low fat diet, and I'm adding cardio and other supplements to keep the fat down to a minimum. For some of you this may not work. Remember, muscles have memory! Your muscles will spring back to their size in a month of training after you try this fasting regimen! Good Luck, to those who try this. I know it sounds bizarre and extreme but isn't want we do kind of bizarre and extreme??? Maybe so, later.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Correct sir! I had 3 different opinions before I had the surgery, and this is what every doc told me! If gland is removed, gyno wont come back, but fat tissue can come back if you are prone to it. I never asked about the breast tissue. What exactly do you mean by that?
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a womens breast is not solely made of fat. it is made of breast tissue also. Under normal circumstances, a male will not have produce any breast tissue.
but if a male has too much estrogen, breast tissue can form. of course if a male has high estrogen it is usually due to higher estrogen during puberty, or AAS that have converted high test levels into high estrogen levels by the process of aromitization.
hence, we should use an AI (aromitise inhibitor), by doing this, test does not convert to estrogen. therefore, no female breast tissue can develop. of course fat can still develop. and usually will for males that have a higher then normal estrgen

im sure MAC or Ulter can jump in and give a better answer then me, but there is mine :)
 
SwolK said:
a womens breast is not solely made of fat. it is made of breast tissue also. Under normal circumstances, a male will not have produce any breast tissue.
but if a male has too much estrogen, breast tissue can form. of course if a male has high estrogen it is usually due to higher estrogen during puberty, or AAS that have converted high test levels into high estrogen levels by the process of aromitization.
hence, we should use an AI (aromitise inhibitor), by doing this, test does not convert to estrogen. therefore, no female breast tissue can develop. of course fat can still develop. and usually will for males that have a higher then normal estrgen

im sure MAC or Ulter can jump in and give a better answer then me, but there is mine :)
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I see what your saying now..
 
i do not have an "edit" button for post #16 + #21 for some reason so i'll edit it here

post #16 + #21 should read as follows:

"I HAVE NO MORE ISSUES WITH YOU A-BOMB ...OUR PROBLEM HAS BEEN RESOLVED AS PER http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514491"
 
No edit button here. I clearly misunderstood the good sun earlier in the post. Everything is cool. I had no right to bomb him.
 
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