help with reconstituting HCG??

[redsamurai]

And before anyone say's "do a search"......it don't work. The search function isn't working properly for me.....and I have the HCG and a loading slin pin right in front of me and I don't feel like waiting a couple hours for spellwin to get his site running properly.......

so anyway......I got two bottles of HCG 5000, 30 unit slin pins, and bac water........and absolutely no idea how much bac water to put in. With the IGF you knew in mcg's what you were working with, so it was easy to figure out how many Iu's you wanted to put in to the 1mg bottle to get your desired dose. Obviously I know that one unit of the HCG can't be in direct proportion to one unit in the slin pin.....otherwise I'd be filling up the pin 16 times for one 500iu dose. So I know the trick is in the proportions.....but without knowing the actual dose in mcg's of mg's, this is somewhat confusing for me.....please help. <sitting here with my dick in my hand till I get an answer>

 

[Galenkia]

This is what i do.Use a regular syringe and suck up the water and inject it into the powder.Then suck up the mixture into the syringe.Remove the needle.Get you slin pin and insert it into the end of the syringe where the pin would be.Draw up the required iu's.Repeat with the other slin pins.

 

[Galenkia]

Forgot to add,keep the syringes refrigerated until use.Very important.

 

[redsamurai]

This is what i do.Use a regular syringe and suck up the water and inject it into the powder.Then suck up the mixture into the syringe.Remove the needle.Get you slin pin and insert it into the end of the syringe where the pin would be.Draw up the required iu's.Repeat with the other slin pins.

couple things here.....

A) I'm not storing this stuff in regular syringes.....i'll stick with the bottles

B) your advice doesn't address the issue of how much water goes into the HCG to get the dosing right. If I followed your advice, how the fuck would I know the dose of the HCG that I'm drawing into the slin pin. Knowing the ratio of water to HCG is crucial in getting the dose right. Maybe I'm missing something here....?

 

[CO B-man]

And before anyone say's "do a search"......it don't work. The search function isn't working properly for me.....and I have the HCG and a loading slin pin right in front of me and I don't feel like waiting a couple hours for spellwin to get his site running properly.......

so anyway......I got two bottles of HCG 5000, 30 unit slin pins, and bac water........and absolutely no idea how much bac water to put in. With the IGF you knew in mcg's what you were working with, so it was easy to figure out how many Iu's you wanted to put in to the 1mg bottle to get your desired dose. Obviously I know that one unit of the HCG can't be in direct proportion to one unit in the slin pin.....otherwise I'd be filling up the pin 16 times for one 500iu dose. So I know the trick is in the proportions.....but without knowing the actual dose in mcg's of mg's, this is somewhat confusing for me.....please help. <sitting here with my dick in my hand till I get an answer>

2.5 cc's each 1/2 cc equates to 1000 iu's

Chinese generic I assume? good stuff if it is they are tiny little bottles though!

 

[CO B-man]

couple things here.....

A) I'm not storing this stuff in regular syringes.....i'll stick with the bottles

B) your advice doesn't address the issue of how much water goes into the HCG to get the dosing right. If I followed your advice, how the fuck would I know the dose of the HCG that I'm drawing into the slin pin. Knowing the ratio of water to HCG is crucial in getting the dose right. Maybe I'm missing something here....?

Thats because he probably does not know he is just regurgitating that what he read the past couple of weeks

 

[redsamurai]

2.5 cc's each 1/2 cc equates to 500 iu's

Chinese generic I assume? good stuff if it is they are tiny little bottles though!

yes they are....so you're saying dump 2.5cc's of bac water into the bottles?

 

[redsamurai]

if .5cc's equates to 500iu's.....than 2.5 cc's is 2,500 iu's......half of what's in the bottle.....?

 

[CO B-man]

Yes then you can use your slins but soulds like you only have enough for 300 iu's in your slins. I dont know what your plan is but I like the 500 iu's ed for 10-15 days which means you would need to stick yourself with 25units. Or two sticks if you do the 1000 eod

 

[CO B-man]

if .5cc's equates to 500iu's.....than 2.5 cc's is 2,500 iu's......half of what's in the bottle.....?

I am sorry you are right. I will edit that. 2.5 cc's is what I put in them in order to devide the 5000 evenly .5cc equates to a 1000 iu therefore your 30 unit slin is perfect if you use 25 units should equate to the 500. I am giving up math! I wished I did not make a living with it! Thats what happens when I do it on the fly!

 

[redsamurai]

Yes then you can use your slins but soulds like you only have enough for 300 iu's in your slins. I dont know what your plan is but I like the 500 iu's ed for 10-15 days which means you would need to stick yourself two time each day with a 30 iu slin and you would or I would suggest using a different slin each time.

my slins are 3/10 of a cc.......damn, I was under the assumption that amount of HCG per inject would not be dramatically more than IGF....that the slins I had would be sufficient, but it sounds like there's shitload more volume required than I thought. So there is no possible way I can dose this stuff so that I can get 500 iu's, or 250 twice a day, into the slins? They're sub q by the way.......which is what I want because I'm already doing 100mg prop eod and deca 1-2 times a week, the prop alone would make an extra IM shot really unacceptable.

 

[redsamurai]

I am sorry you are right. I will edit that. 2.5 cc's is what I put in them in order to devide the 5000 evenly .5cc equates to a 1000 iu therefore your 30 unit slin is perfect if you use 25 units should equate to the 500. I am giving up math! I wished I did not make a living with it! Thats what happens when I do it on the fly!

you'll have to excuse me, I'm still not on board here......my slins are 3/10 of a cc.....so 25 units on the slin is certainly less than half a cc. So to get half a cc I would need to fill up one whole slin PLUS part of another one.....but how much of another one......still lost here.

 

[nisser512]

Well the math is very simple...You have 5000ui of powder:

So if you dissolved it in 10ml of water you'd have 500ui per ml (5000/10ml). Then you'd have to inject 0.5cc to get 250ui per injection.

Now I don't know what this slin pin unit is and how it relates to ml.

 

[redsamurai]

ok, here's what I'm thinking.....3/10 of a cc is .3, so I need another .2 of a cc to get to .5.....so if I filled up an entire slin, 30 units, and then 20 units (.2/cc) of another one......would that get me to the 500iu's?

 

[redsamurai]

Now I don't know what this slin pin unit is and how it relates to ml.

precisely, this is what I've been wrangling over....

 

[nisser512]

Ok now that I read that the math is simple. If your pin is 0.3cc, then you take your 5000ui of powder and dissolve it in 6ml of water. This gives you 833ui/ml (5000ui/6)

0.3cc x 833ui/cc = 250ui

 

[blut wump]

25 units on the slin is 0.25 cc. If you've diluted the HCG with 2.5cc of water then that would be one tenth of the whole 5000 IU, ie. 500 IU. It's just a matter of how much liquid you choose to use to disolve the powder. If you use 5cc then each cc would be 1000IU. If you use 1cc then that 1cc would be 5000IU.

If you want the 25 units mark on your syringe (0.25cc) to equate to 250IU of HCG then you need to start with 5cc of liquid. Each cc would then be 1000IU of HCG and, accordingly, each 0.25cc would be 250IU of HCG.

 

[CO B-man]

my slins are 3/10 of a cc.......damn, I was under the assumption that amount of HCG per inject would not be dramatically more than IGF....that the slins I had would be sufficient, but it sounds like there's shitload more volume required than I thought. So there is no possible way I can dose this stuff so that I can get 500 iu's, or 250 twice a day, into the slins? They're sub q by the way.......which is what I want because I'm already doing 100mg prop eod and deca 1-2 times a week, the prop alone would make an extra IM shot really unacceptable.

I will always just do sub Q myself!

 

[redsamurai]

25 units on the slin is 0.25 cc. If you've diluted the HCG with 2.5cc of water then that would be one tenth of the whole 5000 IU, ie. 500 IU. It's all a quastion of how much liquid you choose to use to dsolve the powder. If you use 5cc then each cc would be 1000IU. If you use 1cc then that 1cc would be 5000IU.

If you want the 25IU mark on your syringe (0.25cc) to equate to 250IU of HCG then you need to start with 5cc of liquid. Each cc would then be 1000IU of HCG and, accordingly, each 0.25cc would be 250IU of HCG.

now we're getting somewhere.......

 

[blut wump]

Note that a cc is an equivalent term to ml. A millilitre is a cubic centimetre.

 

[redsamurai]

I will always just do sub Q myself!

it's not that I mind IM.....it's just with prop going in my ass eod, I really don't have a choice.

 

[blut wump]

I just grab a few inches of belly and stick it in. OK, kidding but you get the idea. The stuff seems to work just fine subq.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

I just grab a few inches of belly and stick it in. OK, kidding but you get the idea. The stuff seems to work just fine subq.

belly is a good spot and there is some evidence that it may have benefits on fat distribution (though those are anecdotal and likely due to systemic effects... but it is worth throwing out there)

 

[CO B-man]

Put 2.5 CC's of water in your tiny vial.
with that you have a concentration of 5000 iu's that means thin in each cc or ml there is a concentration of 2000 iu's therefore only 1/4 of that equals 500 ius one fourth of that cc or ml = .25 cc which also equals 25 units in your slin pin.

therefore with 2.5 cc's you have ten days to inject 25 units of HCG which each day will have 500 iu's

 

[CO B-man]

it's not that I mind IM.....it's just with prop going in my ass eod, I really don't have a choice.

Its not worth he scar tissue because it matters not if you put it IM or subq. If it does not matter why stick it in your muscle I say. I inject just under the navel. I had hrt prescribed thats what was directed and worked well. no pain at all

 

[armo72]

I was doing the math recently because I have a couple of 5cc vials of HCG 5000. I figure 1cc is 100 units. If I put 2.5cc (250 units) of sterile water in the vial I will have 10 shots at 25 units potency 500 each. My pin goes to 100 units so I might just use 5cc of water and go with 50 unit shots. Is this too much liquid to shoot every day?

 

[redsamurai]

hey bro's....thanks for all the info. i ended up putting in 3cc's of bac water....that's all the stupid little bottles would hold. So that works out to 500 iu's per .3cc's, which is the full amount of my slin pin......so that's perfect, albeit alot of water. I might just go with 1-2 cc's for the next bottle.....is that enough to completely dissolve 5000iu's?

 

[blut wump]

hey bro's....thanks for all the info. i ended up putting in 3cc's of bac water....that's all the stupid little bottles would hold. So that works out to 500 iu's per .3cc's, which is the full amount of my slin pin......so that's perfect, albeit alot of water. I might just go with 1-2 cc's for the next bottle.....is that enough to completely dissolve 5000iu's?

I've always used the 1500 iu amps but the powder dissolves almost immediately that the water hits it. The downside to using ever less liquid is loss of accuracy of measurement along with the increased potency. Any errors in volume are magnified as errors in amount of HCG. 0.3ml is really quite negligable.