Help with putting together new cycle

[1tight_tl]

Ok so I tried getting opinioins on primo vs masteron, Didnt work so well...I am looking to do another lean mass cycle like i did ending in November, this time i would like to end up harder,leaner,even more vascular and still put on 10-15lbs....Last cycle was good it was dbol/sust/eq/ and winnie but the winnie ended up fake, gained 21lbs and dieted down..so 15lbs kept ...I have a couple differenc substances in mind..just dont know what would be best together

Dbol weeks 1-4 40mgs/day
Test Not sure which Sust or Prop Weeks 1-12
Primo 600mg,tren 75mg/day,or mast 400-600 week..used eq last time, was just trying to find something new
winstrol 75-100mg/day weeks 8-12
proviron 50mg/day weeks 8-12

I have done many cycles..I am 5'7 163lbs and 9%...Diet is good...I also have Nolvadex, a-dex, and HCG on hand...Help on deciding with the primo, mast or tren would be great..thanx in advance

 

[1tight_tl]

damn..no one wants to help lately

 

[rambleon]

the tren will make u the most shredded but carry the worst sides so it'll all depend on how willing u are to suffer sides. Primo will give u good quality gains but not help all that much in shedding fat. On the other hand it works very well on a low-cal diet so bottom line is how u plan to be eatin'

 

[1tight_tl]

I plan to be eating plenty of calories...200 grams of protien...230 grams of carbs and 95 grams of fat....how bad are the sides of tren besides night sweats..i can deal with those..i kinda wanna do tren b/c i never had..i ran eq last time which is close to primmo...AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONCE..i appreciate it

 

[rambleon]

well first off its an individual thing obv.
Personally i love tren but i got a bad case of acne vulgaris from it that led to 6 months on accutane - no fun at all! Now after the accutane i can do tren without acne but it was bad while it lasted. Also it absolutely destroys cardio ability. Then there's the sweating. Not just at night but in the gym too. Myself i can deal with all this and still considers tren worth it now the acne's gone but u need to take these things into account.

 

[1tight_tl]

well first off its an individual thing obv.
Personally i love trenbolone but i got a bad case of acne vulgaris from it that led to 6 months on accutane - no fun at all! Now after the accutane i can do trenbolone without acne but it was bad while it lasted. Also it absolutely destroys cardio ability. Then there's the sweating. Not just at night but in the gym too. Myself i can deal with all this and still considers trenbolone worth it now the acne's gone but u need to take these things into account.

were you pron to acne from other substances..I have never broken out from any of my cycles..Even my highest dosage ones..my blood pressure never goes up either...i got night sweats for the first time ever from my last run of eq..and i love sweating in the gym like crazy..my new routine has me sweating like crazy anyway

 

[rambleon]

were you pron to acne from other substances..I have never broken out from any of my cycles..Even my highest dosage ones..my blood pressure never goes up either...i got night sweats for the first time ever from my last run of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - ..and i love sweating in the gym like crazy..my new routine has me sweating like crazy anyway

The only other time i got acne from gear was from abombs and that was nowhere near as bad (never mind how horrible a compound abombs is in all other respects). Never got it from anything elso so... no not prone. Oh yeah: I forgot about the agression. Now an increased level of agression is beneficial in the gym so no worries there. The thing is that tren increases agression several orders of magnitude beyond anything else. If there was ever such a thing as "roid rage" it was caused by tren. Of course u have to be an asshole to behave like one no matter what u're on (never mind the media bullshit). But watch out for the way u react when dealing with ur loved ones. Don't want to mess up with the gf just because ur tolerance is lowered by the tren eh?

 

[mattchew]

the more consistent the concentration of tren in your blood stream, the less the sides you will get. The magic dose appears to be nbtwn 75mgs and 100mgs. Drink plenty of h2o, use have cabergoline on hand, use like 25mgs of winny/day for prolactin levels, gotta use test prop; you're going to be jabbing min every day n e way, so just do the prop while you're at it and avoid the sides of longer acting esters. watch the acne, the hair line, and don't run it for a stupid amt of time. oh yeah, and use a low dose of t3, like 25-50mcg's to keep thyroid stimulated. Pretty sure the tren can shut that bad boy down, or at least impede it's normal function.