help with press (shoulder) and routine set up

[cheeto-man]

I'm 39 and have been lifting for about 20 years. Unfortunately as i read through this forum I'm finding I never knew much - and still don't.

I want to replace military press with clean and press. As I watch videos of the move on Youtube i notice that when pressing most everyone has their elbows pointing forward. When i press my elbows tend to point out to the sides. I want to confirm that this is wrong? elbows should be forward?

also if i replace with clean and press i assume that these should NOT be done on the same day as DL as the move is so similar?

my current wo is:

A:
squat
sldl
bench
pendely row
db shoulder press
bi/tri

B:
front squat
DL
military press (want to replace with clean and press)
dip
chin

any suggestions, advice or comment would be most apprciated. Thanks

 

[fortunatesun]

Right.

When you finish the clean portion of your lift, elbows should be pointed forward. There's a few clips found in the training info sticky that show proper technique.

I'm not good at setting up programs for others but I'd feel more comfortable swapping days with Pendlay Rows due to the similarity that you mentioned.

 

[tropo]

I'm 39 and have been lifting for about 20 years. Unfortunately as i read through this forum I'm finding I never knew much - and still don't.

I want to replace military press with clean and press. As I watch videos of the move on Youtube i notice that when pressing most everyone has their elbows pointing forward. When i press my elbows tend to point out to the sides. I want to confirm that this is wrong? elbows should be forward?

also if i replace with clean and press i assume that these should NOT be done on the same day as DL as the move is so similar?

my current wo is:

A:
squat
sldl
bench
pendely row
db shoulder press
bi/tri

B:
front squat
DL
military press (want to replace with clean and press)
dip
chin

any suggestions, advice or comment would be most apprciated. Thanks

I think you could do clean and presses on your deadlift day, but do them first. You could consider them a warmup to your heavy deadlifts.

I'm an ex-olympic lifter and they were my favourite exercises. If you have a good bar postion resting across your collar bone at the end of the clean, then your elbows would be pointing forward, but this takes good wrist flexibility that takes some time to develop. Normally from there the elbows would move out while performing the press.

I'm guessing you can't get into the elbows forward position at the top of the clean (most bodybuilders can't), so you'll be finishing your clean with your elbows wide. From there just press in the most natural feeling position...probably the way you're already pressing is fine for you.