help with pecs please

[enigma4dub]

you can't disagree that growth will come if you keep your muscles guessing.

^THAT^ is the truth

lol! did you learn this from the shool of pumps and laser-like focus?

 

[petpre61]

Also, stretch your pecs out. It will let them be looser and not have such a tight look (tight meaning smaller, rather then looking massive)

I have been streching my pecs out, and they have started looking like pecs.... i always figured genetics this, genetics that, but i was pointed out by 2 people that my pecs were tight. Give it some strethcing, and the area near the LATS will look better....

not much u can do about the fat tho, YES helps, but its still gonna be a battle. Goodluck bro...

BTW....dont worry they dont look bad at all tho

I doubt that the stretching as anything to do with the shape or the look of your
pecs. apparently stretching doesnt even have an influence on muscle tension
according to these guys

Klaus Wiemann, Knut Hahn: Influences of strength-, stretching- and
circulatory exercises on flexibility parameters of the human hamstrings;
International Journal of Sports Medicine. No 5. Vol 18. July 1997: 340-346.

 

[thegoodfoods]

That phrase really annoys me.

Muscles don't have brains. muscles don't think, and they don't get surprised. They respond to stimulus - to damage.

Cause hypertrophy - eat - they grow, thats it.

It's science at the end of the day.

What you are getting at is the fact that your muscles will adapt - get stronger and bigger - to the correct stimuli, thats why you train. You don't have to jump out on them in the dark or secretly grab a dumbell mid-bench press to shock your biceps; if you understand what I am saying. In my opinion, unless you are steroids, once you get into the whole pre-exaustion, super-setting, tri-setting, drop setting and so on in order to bring your lifts up, at this point in your training... you are on a very dark road.

I don't mean to be pedantic.

You have learned, Grasshopper... lol j/k

you said it better than i did... but i didn't LITERALLY mean keep your muscles guessing. it's not like they got a mind of their own.

Now let us go in peace, Mad_monkey...

 

[eric22]

Whats the best stretches for chest. My chest always looks big and soft even when I get to 10% body fat. I need more shape !!

Also, stretch your pecs out. It will let them be looser and not have such a tight look (tight meaning smaller, rather then looking massive)

I have been streching my pecs out, and they have started looking like pecs.... i always figured genetics this, genetics that, but i was pointed out by 2 people that my pecs were tight. Give it some strethcing, and the area near the LATS will look better....

not much u can do about the fat tho, YES helps, but its still gonna be a battle. Goodluck bro...

BTW....dont worry they dont look bad at all tho

 

[Nathan]

I would switch to starting with a pressing movement - you will get more out of your chest workouts that way. Starting with flyes is more of a "pre-exhaustion" technique IMO which, if you ask me, is crap and will detract from your gains.

I would start your chest workout with flat BB bench for a few (5-7 or so) weeks and then move to starting with incline DB bench, then to starting with decline BB press for a few weeks, etc. Most of your progress will come from whatever you start your workouts with.

And last but not least, from the way you described your chest, you need to lose bf to get the look you want.

 

[BiggT]

I would switch to starting with a pressing movement - you will get more out of your chest workouts that way. Starting with flyes is more of a "pre-exhaustion" technique IMO which, if you ask me, is crap and will detract from your gains.

I would start your chest workout with flat BB bench for a few (5-7 or so) weeks and then move to starting with incline DB bench, then to starting with decline BB press for a few weeks, etc. Most of your progress will come from whatever you start your workouts with.

And last but not least, from the way you described your chest, you need to lose bf to get the look you want.

This is what I call damn good advice. All starting with flyes and pre-exhausting does is limit load, which limits stimulus, which limits growth. In other words, it makes you weaker on the stuff that counts....having your training partner bash your ribs in with a crow bar before you bench will limit load too and certainly pre-exhaust you, but you wouldn't do it.....besides being a little more hazardous to your health, it is no dumber than starting a workout with flyes (or doing flyes period for that matter).