Help with pct

[joe d]

dont wait until after your cycle to run the hcg your much better off takeing 100iu every day or every other day during your cycle then drop it near the end and start the nolv and clomid

he is at the end of 12 weaks already. 100iu ed wouldnt do shit for me. i would still shut down.

using from the start to prevent shut down is a better choice.

 

[niightz]

There is no reason to compare taking hcg during or after, IT WORKS BOTH WAYS!!!!. Follow joe d's advice and you win.

 

[usmcnut]

1000ius eod is too much. It has been advised to never exceed 2000ius a week. You can use it 1000ius e3d for 2 weeks. It is better to run it during cycle, or pre Pct. I like during better. I do 500ius every 4 days.
As far as prop. I would say 3-4 days start PCT.

 

[James_D]

Thanks everybody for the info, im going to do what joe says

 

[usmcnut]

Thanks everybody for the info, im going to do what joe says

Ok, but here is info I got from edition 9. "If used for too ; long or at too high a dose, the drug may actually function to desensitize the Leydig's cells to luteinizing hormone, further hindering a return to homeostasis.
Bodybuilders and athletes may also administer Human Chorionic Gonadotropin throughout a steroid cycle, in an effort to avoid testicular atrophy and the resulting reduced ability to respond to LH stimulus. In effect, this practice is used to avoid the problem of testicular atrophy, instead of trying to correct it later on when the cycle is over. It is important to remember that the dosage needs to be carefully monitored with this type of use, as high levels of hCG may cause increased testicular aromatase expression (raising estrogen levels),920 and also desensitize the testes to LH.921 As such, the drug may actually induce primary hypogonadism when misused, greatly prolonging, not improving, the recovery window. Current protocols for the use of hCG in this manner involve administering 250lU subcutaneously twice per week (every 3rd or 4th day) throughout the length of the steroid cycle. Higher doses may be necessary for some individuals, but at no point should exceed 500lU per injection.

 

[joe d]

Ok, but here is info I got from edition 9. "If used for too ; long or at too high a dose, the drug may actually function to desensitize the Leydig's cells to luteinizing hormone, further hindering a return to homeostasis.
Bodybuilders and athletes may also administer Human Chorionic Gonadotropin throughout a steroid cycle, in an effort to avoid testicular atrophy and the resulting reduced ability to respond to LH stimulus. In effect, this practice is used to avoid the problem of testicular atrophy, instead of trying to correct it later on when the cycle is over. It is important to remember that the dosage needs to be carefully monitored with this type of use, as high levels of hCG may cause increased testicular aromatase expression (raising estrogen levels),920 and also desensitize the testes to LH.921 As such, the drug may actually induce primary hypogonadism when misused, greatly prolonging, not improving, the recovery window. Current protocols for the use of hCG in this manner involve administering 250lU subcutaneously twice per week (every 3rd or 4th day) throughout the length of the steroid cycle. Higher doses may be necessary for some individuals, but at no point should exceed 500lU per injection.

1000iu eod for 10 days is not to much nor is it to long. i myself have done this more than once. so have countless others. it works

 

[usmcnut]

1000iu eod for 10 days is not to much nor is it to long. i myself have done this more than once. so have countless others. it works

Well I'm not a Doctor but this Doctor said this.. "It is important to remember that the dosage needs to be carefully monitored with this type of use, as high levels of hCG may cause increased testicular aromatase expression (raising estrogen levels),920 and also desensitize the testes to LH.921 As such, the drug may actually induce primary hypogonadism when misused, greatly prolonging, not improving, the recovery window. Current protocols for the use of hCG in this manner involve administering 250lU subcutaneously twice per week (every 3rd or 4th day) throughout the length of the steroid cycle. Higher doses may be necessary for some individuals, but at no point should exceed 500lU per injection.
These on-cycle hCG protocols were developed by Dr.John Crisler, a well-known figure in the anti-aging and hormone-replacement."

You may have done your 1000ius eod and others too... But you could be doing more damage then you know. The OP should read what DOCTORS say about a certain drug, and not take any of our advice. I only give advice that I have read from doctors and then have tried myself and learned the results first hand. Good Day Bro!

 

[joe d]

Well I'm not a Doctor but this Doctor said this.. "It is important to remember that the dosage needs to be carefully monitored with this type of use, as high levels of hCG may cause increased testicular aromatase expression (raising estrogen levels),920 and also desensitize the testes to LH.921 As such, the drug may actually induce primary hypogonadism when misused, greatly prolonging, not improving, the recovery window. Current protocols for the use of hCG in this manner involve administering 250lU subcutaneously twice per week (every 3rd or 4th day) throughout the length of the steroid cycle. Higher doses may be necessary for some individuals, but at no point should exceed 500lU per injection.
These on-cycle hCG protocols were developed by Dr.John Crisler, a well-known figure in the anti-aging and hormone-replacement."

You may have done your 1000ius eod and others too... But you could be doing more damage then you know. The OP should read what DOCTORS say about a certain drug, and not take any of our advice. I only give advice that I have read from doctors and then have tried myself and learned the results first hand. Good Day Bro!

you dont run steroid cycles by any chance do you?

 

[niightz]

when using prop/npp I run my hcg for the last ten days of cycle, meaning last shot of hcg will be 2 days past my last inject of prop/npp. I run 500 I.U. a day for those 10 days. It works and works very well. I dont see anything wrong with using 1000 if YOUR body needs that much. GL to ya .

 

[usmcnut]

you dont run steroid cycles by any chance do you?

Not at all!! LOL!!
What the point to that question?