Help with HGH

[TommyV67]

Can anyone out there help me???

I have heard it said that Jintropin is a good (and less expensive) in the HGH world...I have found sources in China for the product...but I need help with what to do for a cycle.

I have looked all over the net to no avail....how much should be taken, how often, and for how long...Is it better to do one cycle, or several.

I am 6'3, 195, 44" chest, 15" arms 34 waist, and about 18% BF...I have not been into the gym for a while as I have just moved to a new town...so with memory I can get 46 chest, 16 arms.

The end result I would like to see is 225, 46-47 chest, 18 arms, 26" thighs, 32 waist, and 18-10% BF.

I hope someone can help me with this...this is a whole new arena for me...I have only ever used methyl 1-test....subsequently I have enough for (4) four week cycles @ 20mg a day...I bought several bottles before they were banned.

Anyone who would like to take the time and help me with this would be appreciated...I would much rather go into this with some knowledge....I know many of you are way past this, but we all have to start somewhere.

Thanks!

 

[steelmass]

Can anyone out there help me???

I have heard it said that Jintropin is a good (and less expensive) in the HGH world...I have found sources in China for the product...but I need help with what to do for a cycle.

I have looked all over the net to no avail....how much should be taken, how often, and for how long...Is it better to do one cycle, or several.

I am 6'3, 195, 44" chest, 15" arms 34 waist, and about 18% BF...I have not been into the gym for a while as I have just moved to a new town...so with memory I can get 46 chest, 16 arms.

The end result I would like to see is 225, 46-47 chest, 18 arms, 26" thighs, 32 waist, and 18-10% BF.

I hope someone can help me with this...this is a whole new arena for me...I have only ever used methyl 1-test....subsequently I have enough for (4) four week cycles @ 20mg a day...I bought several bottles before they were banned.

Anyone who would like to take the time and help me with this would be appreciated...I would much rather go into this with some knowledge....I know many of you are way past this, but we all have to start somewhere.

Thanks!

Do a cycle before you consider growth... Cut to 10% (im assuming you meant 18-20%) then do a AS.

 

[abomb]

Do a cycle before you consider growth... Cut to 10% (im assuming you meant 18-20%) then do a AS.

Good post. Cut down the bodyfat first. Then do a cutter cycle. You and your pocketbook will be much happier. Good luck.

PS: Throw the prohormones in the garbage or sell it.

 

[TommyV67]

Okay...thank you both...but you still did not answer the question...first, won't HGH help cut down on the body fat?...won't it help with both things I am trying to accomplish....build size, and cut fat.

Sorry for the typo...I am trying to reach a goal of 8-10%body fat in the end.

Most importantly though I am trying to get an idea of what dose I should take, and how often, and for how long.

I really am new to this...but am only considering the Jintropin...I was under the impression this would be enough. There is no need to be supplimenting this with other chemicals is there?

Is there anything I should be taking in addition?...or after the cycle is done?

I know this is a lot of questions...but I am sure someone should have the answers.

Thanks

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Okay...thank you both...but you still did not answer the question...first, won't HGH help cut down on the body fat?...won't it help with both things I am trying to accomplish....build size, and cut fat.

Sorry for the typo...I am trying to reach a goal of 8-10%body fat in the end.

Most importantly though I am trying to get an idea of what dose I should take, and how often, and for how long.

I really am new to this...but am only considering the Jintropin...I was under the impression this would be enough. There is no need to be supplimenting this with other chemicals is there?

Is there anything I should be taking in addition?...or after the cycle is done?

I know this is a lot of questions...but I am sure someone should have the answers.

Thanks

Yes growth will help when cutting but not as much as a good clean diet with cardio will get down 12-14% drug free then continue to cut with the growth and m1t but honestly better then M1T would test ethnate IMO.
As for how much growth for cutting it is good at 2 iu's a day for an extend preriod of time you could run the gh for for 6 months then run test for 2 cycles eight weeks each with and 8 week break in between cycles.

 

[stressman13]

M1T? Yuck.....better off with dbol + AIFM then m1t.....was a means to the end when it was legal but now that its just as illegal as all the other steroids out there, its generally a poor choice in terms of quality gains vs. side effects...there are much better choices....'Test is a much superior choice as already mentioned...

 

[kbrkbr]

GH can help you shed some fat but it won't help you get bigger. Contrary to popular belief, it's not particularly anabolic.

Before I can recommend whether you should try it, I need to know how old you are.

 

[drrman]

you need a diet not HGH

 

[TommyV67]

My age is 39, and I have to say that my metabolism is quite high so slimming down is not a problem...I have been eating like a seagull, and at worst I have about 20lbs to lose (maybe).

At my "best" I was 195, 6% body fat....I was amazed that I could look this good, however four hurricanes later (the last one permanently closing my gym)...and a subsequent move to the north Georgia mountains has me wanting to get back to where I was...and getting better...much better.

From the standpoint of where I was, my end goal is not too far off, and I am looking for a good booster to help me get there. However, I don't want my privates to look like raisins, and I especially don't want my liver to look like Swiss cheese.

So...again I toss it out there....what to do? (yes I know to get back in and started) I know three months of training and cardio will have me where I was...but I do like to think ahead and be prepared for the next step.

Thanks again for the input.

 

[kbrkbr]

Like I said before, gh isn't going to make you grow all that much, and it you're looking at it just to help you lose weight, I think you'd be wasting your money. You could lose just as much, if not more, using clen, T3, ECA, etc. for much, much less money.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Like I said before, gh isn't going to make you grow all that much, and it you're looking at it just to help you lose weight, I think you'd be wasting your money. You could lose just as much, if not more, using clen, T3, ECA, etc. for much, much less money.

I honestly wouldn't call it a waist of money IMO yeah clen ECA will see significant cutting results. If he is using it to cut in my experince adding GH has speed things up significantly plust at his age there are other add benifits to running it for an extened period of time. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Shinobi]

First of all, how old are u? GH is useless before 30 years old.
If u want to see the GH results u must stay on it for a long period or lets say u must use 2 kits at least. If u looking to increasy body mass u better of using IGF-1 r3

 

[black sheep]

First of all, how old are u? GH is useless before 30 years old.

This statement is untrue.

 

[Shinobi]

This statement is untrue.

Lets see what other members have to say

 

[black sheep]

Lets see what other members have to say

There are few people out there than can afford to run good GH, correctly, and for long enough. I am 28 - Using 6-8iu EOD and I am on week 15 right now. I am running it for 52 weeks

I have experienced the following:

Significant fat loss
Very improved quality of sleep
Increased energy levels


So regardless of what any body else says - It is tested and proven on someone under 30 - therefore as I said, your general blanket statement is UNTRUE.

 

[drrman]

Lets see what other members have to say

COMPLETELY untrue bro

Black Sheep is right......HGH IS NOT useless before 30

 

[Shinobi]

COMPLETELY untrue bro

Black Sheep is right......HGH IS NOT useless before 30

What I was trying to say is that GH is much more benefitial when u are older BUT if u have the money to spend go for it.
I am 25 so my levels are producing well and using it at night would be pointless because I feel at best I would be replacing what my body already produces by shutting natural production down...the older you are the more pronounced the effects IMHO is a big part of it. Unless your normal levels are higher. A friend of mine at age 50 tested in the 25-30 year old range and that could be why he has never really experienced significant positive effects. It is a good idea to have GH levels tested before, during and after a cycle if you can afford the tests.... that's why I think the younger guys are wasting their $$$ and time on the GH. Of course, if you're also using other "supps" you may never know what GH did for you. I think the goal if your under 30 should be to have continuous levels which can be achieved by the schedule I just said.... The main thing I noticed was a more 3d look to my muscle as well as veins coming out I never had before when I dieted down.... Oh and starting my diet at 242 just a little below 8% wasn't bad either....

 

[drrman]

What I was trying to say is that GH is much more benefitial when u are older BUT if u have the money to spend go for it.
I am 25 so my levels are producing well and using it at night would be pointless because I feel at best I would be replacing what my body already produces by shutting natural production down...the older you are the more pronounced the effects IMHO is a big part of it. Unless your normal levels are higher. A friend of mine at age 50 tested in the 25-30 year old range and that could be why he has never really experienced significant positive effects. It is a good idea to have GH levels tested before, during and after a cycle if you can afford the tests.... that's why I think the younger guys are wasting their $$$ and time on the GH. Of course, if you're also using other "supps" you may never know what GH did for you. I think the goal if your under 30 should be to have continuous levels which can be achieved by the schedule I just said.... The main thing I noticed was a more 3d look to my muscle as well as veins coming out I never had before when I dieted down.... Oh and starting my diet at 242 just a little below 8% wasn't bad either....

you can "think" what you want, HGH wasn't a waste of money for me

 

[black sheep]

I ordered 10 kits of Jinos - You do the math. I dont regret my purchase one bit.

 

[1Mistake2006]

Gotta chime in here...I've done GH since I was 26 and the results were almost instant..I've also probably done more kits than 99% of people on this board so I speak from real world experiences..I've gone up to 6ius ED and as low as 2ius ED with gear..w/o gear etc..FOR ME..nothing cuts fat like GH..I can eat pizza and nachos all day and still have veins running thru my abs!
Although I do agree its probably better if this cat does gear first and tighten his diet..but nothing works like test,GH, and T-3 to burn fat.....especially if you're also dieting..

 

[superqt4u2nv]

27 here and I would say it for sure working in my cutting. It is however more benifical in other asspects besides fat burning when you are over 30.