Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below i have been using gh about 14 months with fair results...i used humalin r for about 4 weeks and turned into a fat pig. I thought i had the timing and diet right but my results show i did not! Could you please post what you think is a good way to use gh, slin (humalog this time) aas, i also have t3 and can get whatever you suggest. please help with diet and timing of both the gh and slin. if you already have a post on this please list the link. I am looking to increase mass while staying as lean as I can. Thanks and I really respect your knowledge,we miss you around here lately you don't seem to post as much. I would think it is because how silly the board seem to get with flaming etc...plus I am sure you are busy with questions from young bucks like me!! LOL THANKS [email protected]
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I would need to know how much GH and humulin you were using and when. Also, what schedule of nutrient intake did you use after the insulin? What brand of GH?
Thanks for your time...i was using 2ius am and 2pm jintropin i would do about 8units of humalin r at the same times followed with a shake 50 grams protien about 40 grams of carbs then 2 hours later 2 chicken breasts and 1 cup of rice.I think my problem was not eating super clean after that meal of chicken and brown rice.But i did stay away from any sweets and most fats.Just more shakes and chicken and rice and pasta the rest of the day.I am naturally pretty lean but my gut just went up 3 inches from the slin. I dropped the slin and am still hitting the gh and test and watching carbs and dropped that extra lbs.i now do all the gh in the am.So maybe if i just do the humalog which clears faster I would do better. I really just feel I am missing alot of the results from the gh without slin. I am 33 5'9 216 bodyfat about 10% been training and using aas for about 12 years. I run a few gyms for a living.I am behind on my education of proper GH use with slin,t3 and aas. Feel free to tell me what to do. I can get other aas if needed . I have them on hand. I just want to add some lean mass and just get a better overall look.( LIKE YOUR PICS!)
Hey, brother, I'm always glad to help out a good man if I can.
When you use GH for the purpose of leanness and simply want to counteract GH's negative impact on insulin sensitivity, then humalog is always best. It is so fast that it won't cause undesired weight gain. However, when using GH as part of a mass building cycle, I prefer a slower insulin.......even slower than humulin-r. ("N" or 70/30 or "U") If you looked at my gallery, there are 2 pics side by side which show the effects of a GH/steroid cycle compared to a GH/steroid/insulin cycle. You can see that I'm thicker, bigger, but a little smooth in the insulin bulking cycle. Is that what you have? Or did you gain 3 inches of fat in the gut and no where else?
That's extreme, if it's 3 bad inches........either you been going nuts on the junk food, or something is wrong with the gear or the GH. Longterm use of HCG will cause accumulations of fat around the waist in men. HCG is often the active ingredient in bogus GH.
Anyway, I would try the humalog at 7iu with the GH injection. Your shake should be taken at about the same time as the injections, and that light meal at 1 hour. After 2 or 3 hours, you don't need to be so careful.
Also, synthetic GH can cause thyroid difficulties for some people. After several weeks of GH injections, some experience an increased binding of natural thyroid hormones. Bound hormone is not effective, and these people should consider a light dosage of T3 to avoid fat gain and bloating. The dangers of long term T3 use have been exaggerated. 25 to 50 mcg is not a problem.
You might want to try a cycle of androgenics/GH/insulin, but at the half-way point taper back the androgenics and insulin while transfering to an anabolics/GH/T3 conclusion.
So keep me posted, and thanks for the kind words.
When you use GH for the purpose of leanness and simply want to counteract GH's negative impact on insulin sensitivity, then humalog is always best. It is so fast that it won't cause undesired weight gain. However, when using GH as part of a mass building cycle, I prefer a slower insulin.......even slower than humulin-r. ("N" or 70/30 or "U") If you looked at my gallery, there are 2 pics side by side which show the effects of a GH/steroid cycle compared to a GH/steroid/insulin cycle. You can see that I'm thicker, bigger, but a little smooth in the insulin bulking cycle. Is that what you have? Or did you gain 3 inches of fat in the gut and no where else?
That's extreme, if it's 3 bad inches........either you been going nuts on the junk food, or something is wrong with the gear or the GH. Longterm use of HCG will cause accumulations of fat around the waist in men. HCG is often the active ingredient in bogus GH.
Anyway, I would try the humalog at 7iu with the GH injection. Your shake should be taken at about the same time as the injections, and that light meal at 1 hour. After 2 or 3 hours, you don't need to be so careful.
Also, synthetic GH can cause thyroid difficulties for some people. After several weeks of GH injections, some experience an increased binding of natural thyroid hormones. Bound hormone is not effective, and these people should consider a light dosage of T3 to avoid fat gain and bloating. The dangers of long term T3 use have been exaggerated. 25 to 50 mcg is not a problem.
You might want to try a cycle of androgenics/GH/insulin, but at the half-way point taper back the androgenics and insulin while transfering to an anabolics/GH/T3 conclusion.
So keep me posted, and thanks for the kind words.
Thank you very much for the time...the gh may have been bad my source was not very good on the shipping end. Heat may have spoiled the gh.That problem has been fixed.Can i get away with just inj. in the am? i am at my gyms until 830pm i train around 630pmOnce i get home i am up until around 1145pm. Should i do the slin everyday? or just after working out or only on workout days? I want some size but not the fat!!! LOL THANKS AGAIN
Whether you inject in the AM or after workouts, you should always use the insulin with the GH to counter insulin desensitivity caused by the GH. I inject both after a late afternoon workout. Use the humalog every day that you use GH.
If bulking with super slow time release insulin, use the insulin in the AM.
Currently I am using time-release GH, so slow insulin is a natural with it, and injection times aren't as important.
You may need to add in the T3 if the weight problem continues.
Needsize.......if I am using less than 4iu Gh, I inject once per day. I split anything at 4iu or more, and also the insulin if it's humalog.
Animalb......how the fuck are you brother? Yes, ansomone is very effective and the price is sure right. Hey man, keep watching the board. I'm starting a thread on "unsung hero's of EF" and YOU are one of them.
If bulking with super slow time release insulin, use the insulin in the AM.
Currently I am using time-release GH, so slow insulin is a natural with it, and injection times aren't as important.
You may need to add in the T3 if the weight problem continues.
Needsize.......if I am using less than 4iu Gh, I inject once per day. I split anything at 4iu or more, and also the insulin if it's humalog.
Animalb......how the fuck are you brother? Yes, ansomone is very effective and the price is sure right. Hey man, keep watching the board. I'm starting a thread on "unsung hero's of EF" and YOU are one of them.
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