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smallfry29

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I am 24 years old and have been lifting hard for 4 years and have put on around 30 pds of lbm. I am 5' 11" and weigh 200pds with around 14%bf. I am getting ready to do my first cycle and decided that I wanted to use Test Enanthate and winny tabs for an 8 week cycle.
I will use the winny at 50 mg the last 6 weeks of the cycle. I will front load the Test at 1000mg the first week and stay at 750mg the rest of the time. I do have clomid and nova but would like some advice on when to start each and how long to take it. Also, if I do stick with 750mg a week do I spread it over three different days of the week? All advice is appreciated
 
smallfry29 said:
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I am 24 years old and have been lifting hard for 4 years and have put on around 30 pds of lbm. I am 5' 11" and weigh 200pds with around 14%bf. I am getting ready to do my first cycle and decided that I wanted to use Test Enanthate and winny tabs for an 8 week cycle.
I will use the winny at 50 mg the last 6 weeks of the cycle. I will front load the Test at 1000mg the first week and stay at 750mg the rest of the time. I do have clomid and nova but would like some advice on when to start each and how long to take it. Also, if I do stick with 750mg a week do I spread it over three different days of the week? All advice is appreciated

Jeez first cycle and your gonna hit 1000 mg in the first week, i've known people to take more but you may be better off with 500 mg/Week. That way you can inject on Monday and Thursdays, this i've found also keeps bloody levels steady.
I guess its your first cycle so its always good to experiment but i still think 1000 mg is pretty high.
 
this is what I suggest you to do bro, do a 12 week cycle why? because the ester of the enathate will kick in around week 5 and you dont want to end it up when It's barely kicking in NO?????

1-12 test en. 250 at 500wk ALL THE WAY!
6-12 winny at 50/ed
15-18 PCT (what have you)
 
jeb0177 said:
this is what I suggest you to do bro, do a 12 week cycle why? because the ester of the enathate will kick in around week 5 and you dont want to end it up when It's barely kicking in NO?????

1-12 test en. 250 at 500wk ALL THE WAY!
6-12 winny at 50/ed
15-18 PCT (what have you)


If I do 500mg a week throughout dont I still need to frontload?
What is the benefit to having the winny and the end rather than the beg.?
When should I start the nolva and clomid?
 
jeb0177 said:
this is what I suggest you to do bro, do a 12 week cycle why? because the ester of the enathate will kick in around week 5 and you dont want to end it up when It's barely kicking in NO?????

1-12 test en. 250 at 500wk ALL THE WAY!
6-12 winny at 50/ed
15-18 PCT (what have you)

I agree.

BTW, who in the hell told you that you needed to front load 1 gram per week and do 750mg's/wk for your first cycle?????
 
Apexx said:
I agree.

BTW, who in the hell told you that you needed to front load 1 gram per week and do 750mg's/wk for your first cycle?????
Probably Dave Polumbo
 
smallfry29 said:
Is it better to start the winny right away for 6 weeks? or wait until the last 6?

A lot of guys use winny to harden gains. Use at the end of the cycle. A good cycle was mentioned above.

500mgs week of test will be more than enough. That will be more than enough if your diet, training, and rest are appropriate.
 
I dont get why 50% say to frontload and 50% do not. Just common sense tells me that it will help get everything going faster?
 
smallfry29 said:
I dont get why 50% say to frontload and 50% do not. Just common sense tells me that it will help get everything going faster?

I love it, typical newbie impatience. I was the same way for my first cycle though. All of your receptors are completely fresh, believe me, you are going to see great results with the cycle that was recommended above. No sense in adding more test if you don't need it........especially a gram per week.
 
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