Help With Cycle

[Oldpro]

Sust (Great base)
C/O Primo, Deca Dura, winny
Nolva during
Clom post cycle

Hey Mike, with all due respect I must partially disagree with test comment, I don’t think the use of test is the problem it is the abuse of it that is. It should rank with D-bol, in regards to safely. If used correctly and not used to go into the stratosphere of your natural ability, it can be effective and successful. I think because it is just so easy and the effects can be so dramatic without the "scary liver isues" people play down the dangers. Man it can all be scary!

Also, you got to admit PCT seems to be an issue here, increasing anti E’s later do to miscalculation won't always cut it if you are already in deep shit.

Just my .O2

 

[mikevegas]

I just think test is way to much used and abused in here. Obviously it works, but it is really a good drug for growing fast as long as you stay on it I feel. If you are competeing, go for it. But if not, I just think many of the people in here could find good long term growth and gains (and keep most of them) with minimal side effects if they would just me more patient in their goals. Everyone wants to be a monster overnite it seems. From my experience I can tell you this, the quicker you are to gain muscle, the quicker you can lose it. The slower you put in on, the slower you lose it.

The other thing I keep seeing is people using all androgenic drugs together, no anabolic. If you take Cyp, don't combine it with Eth or Prop, combine it with Primo, EQ, or Anavar. Combine quick growth drugs (androgenic) with solid growth drugs (anabolic) for more solid gains.

 

[RippedRule]

Ok I'm planning on ordering soon. Anyone experienced bad sides on winny? Just curious...

 

[SwolK]

Ok I'm planning on ordering soon. Anyone experienced bad sides on winny? Just curious...

aching joints is about it for me

mikevegas,
I think those other drugs will affect your hormone system