help with cycle design??

[timber1976]

well it seems my other board got shut down so here i am bros. please help me design the best 20 week "on" cycle. NO CLOMID! i have ran as high as a gram of test per week.
right now i am 30yrs, 5'10'', 210lbs, about 14%, 5th cycle. looking to gain good quality lean and keepable muscle. i have all of these and any amounts at my disposal. thanks guys.

prop, cyp,
winni, mast, drol, tren, primo
EQ, deca nandralone
HCG, Nolva, clen

 

[Acela]

without knowing anything...
TestP 100 mg EOD weeks 1-4
testosterone cypionate @ 500 mg EW weeks 1-20
E/Q @ 400 mgs EW weeks 1-18
TrenA @ 75 mg EOD weeks 10-18
winstrol @ 25-50 mgs ED weeks 10-18
Mast @ 100 mg EOD 10-20

h'c'g weeks 5-15 500 iu E5 days
i personally use clomid and won't use Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - . so i can't comment on that. i would incorporate derma/sustain 10 days after your last shot 5 pumps ED until 2 bottles are gone

good luck

 

[timber1976]

without knowing anything...
TestP 100 mg EOD weeks 1-4
testosterone cypionate @ 500 mg EW weeks 1-20
E/Q @ 400 mgs EW weeks 1-18
TrenA @ 75 mg EOD weeks 10-18
Mast @ 100 mg EOD 10-20

h'c'g weeks 5-15 500 iu E5 days
i personally use clomid and won't use Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - . so i can't comment on that. i would incorporate derma/sustain 10 days after your last shot 5 pumps ED until 2 bottles are gone

good luck

i think my test should be ran at least 800mgs, but i love the idea of frontloading with the prop.

 

[xrsist]

may i ask why you want a 20 week cycle?

 

[timber1976]

may i ask why you want a 20 week cycle?

WHY WOULDN'T I!? if u run EQ (like i lways do) you need a longer cycle to see maximum results. i lways run nolva at low dose ED throughout cycle and HCG in middle and end. i always recover within 2-3 weeks after cycle and keep most of what gained. i know alot of people say your destroying your natural test with this long of cycles, but b4 i ever cycled my natural test was at 425 at 21 yrs of age. Today at 30yrs old, 5 cycles later, all 20 week plus, i have been off for 5 months, bloodwork done last week, natural test came in at 485!

 

[holy ghost]

1-20 Test E 500mg ew
1-18 eq 600mg ew
1-10 tren e 400-600mg ew
1-10 mast 400-600mg ew
1-4 abombs 50-100mg ed
7-12 winny 50mg ed
10-18 deca 400-600mg ew
16-20 winny 50mg ed
10-12 clen 80-120mcg ed
18-20 clen 80-120mcg ed

PRICY!! LOL BUT A DREAM CYCLE NONE THE LESS lol

 

[timber1976]

1-20 testosterone enanthate 500mg ew
1-18 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 600mg ew
1-10 trenbolone e 400-600mg ew
1-10 mast 400-600mg ew
1-4 abombs 50-100mg ed
7-12 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ed
10-18 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 400-600mg ew
16-20 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ed
10-12 Clenbuterol 80-120mcg ed
18-20 Clenbuterol 80-120mcg ed

PRICY!! LOL BUT A DREAM CYCLE NONE THE LESS lol

LOOKS AWSOME! but some ?'s Why enanthate and not cyp(please look at my availibility list on #1 post)? why tren E and not tren A? why the deca second half? THANKS GUYS!

 

[holy ghost]

Sorry bro You can sub cyp for it NO PROBLEMS theyre nearly 100% the same
Tren E= less shots, easier all around

Deca can be in first half but switch tren to second half

either or bro

its a fucking amazing cycle, and i have run ones almost identical with spectacular results.....get on a good diet and expect to look amazing!

 

[xrsist]

1-20 testosterone enanthate 500mg ew
1-18 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 600mg ew
1-10 trenbolone e 400-600mg ew
1-10 mast 400-600mg ew
1-4 abombs 50-100mg ed
7-12 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ed
10-18 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 400-600mg ew
16-20 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ed
10-12 Clenbuterol 80-120mcg ed
18-20 Clenbuterol 80-120mcg ed

PRICY!! LOL BUT A DREAM CYCLE NONE THE LESS lol

how much did you gain and keep with that cycle ghost? what did your p c t look like?

 

[needtogetaas]

1-20 testosterone enanthate 500mg ew
1-18 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 600mg ew
1-10 trenbolone e 400-600mg ew
1-10 mast 400-600mg ew
1-4 abombs 50-100mg ed
7-12 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ed
10-18 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 400-600mg ew
16-20 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ed
10-12 Clenbuterol 80-120mcg ed
18-20 Clenbuterol 80-120mcg ed

PRICY!! LOL BUT A DREAM CYCLE NONE THE LESS lol

8 weeks deca?

 

[the_alcatraz]

1-20 testosterone enanthate 500mg ew
1-18 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 600mg ew
1-10 trenbolone e 400-600mg ew
1-10 mast 400-600mg ew
1-4 abombs 50-100mg ed
7-12 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ed
10-18 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 400-600mg ew
16-20 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ed
10-12 Clenbuterol 80-120mcg ed
18-20 Clenbuterol 80-120mcg ed

Lemme go rob a bank, hijack a plane and kidnap the president's daughter. Then, remind me how much this cycle will make me grow to ease my suffering...lol...that is a sick cycle that would cost like a million dollars!!

 

[needtogetaas]

Lemme go rob a bank, hijack a plane and kidnap the president's daughter. Then, remind me how much this cycle will make me grow to ease my suffering...lol...that is a sick cycle that would cost like a million dollars!!

Not for me

 

[the_alcatraz]

Not for me

You mean it wouldnt cost you that much, or you wouldn't pay that much?

 

[jumpmaster82]

I agree with ACELA. That's a badass cycle

 

[timber1976]

well if everyone is agreeing that that is one bad-ass cycle, then i am gonna put it together!!!!!!!!!!!!! keep the suggestions and comments coming though, this is awsome! glad to be ad this board.

 

[holy ghost]

Put it together bro, I sware you will look like a COMPLETELY different person by the time youre done

REMEMBER!!! THERE SHOULD BE NO COST ON UR HEALTH!!!

1-3 of those cycles a YEAR IS ALL YOU NEED TO STAY AMAZING LOOKING!

im glad ur gonna run it but make sure you stick around and POST your results dont get all stoked and leave us EF family in the dust! lol

if you run that by JAN, ill be runnnin one very similar!!

 

[timber1976]

i think we should jump up the test some though??? what do you think? remember my last cycle was about a gram a week.

 

[timber1976]

Put it together bro, I sware you will look like a COMPLETELY different person by the time youre done

REMEMBER!!! THERE SHOULD BE NO COST ON UR HEALTH!!!

1-3 of those cycles a YEAR IS ALL YOU NEED TO STAY AMAZING LOOKING!

im glad ur gonna run it but make sure you stick around and POST your results dont get all stoked and leave us EF family in the dust! lol

if you run that by JAN, ill be runnnin one very similar!!

1-3 a year?! ya right. once a year is all i cycle. HOLY GHOST, by the way my start date is going to be Feb 1st.

 

[holy ghost]

oh feb first thats all good!
sure bump test to 1g ew, thats what i Run!!!!

you will be estatic!

 

[xrsist]

1-20 testosterone enanthate 500mg ew
1-18 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 600mg ew
1-10 trenbolone e 400-600mg ew
1-10 mast 400-600mg ew
1-4 abombs 50-100mg ed
7-12 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ed
10-18 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 400-600mg ew
16-20 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ed
10-12 Clenbuterol 80-120mcg ed
18-20 Clenbuterol 80-120mcg ed

PRICY!! LOL BUT A DREAM CYCLE NONE THE LESS lol

once again.. how much did you gain and keep with that cycle? what did your p c t look like? or are you talking shit again?

 

[alcatraz1662]

once again, here i am bumping heads with holyghost going against the grain D). here's the minimalist suggestion based on 20 weeks, the fact that you're looking for lean gains (and not a straight out bulk), and assuming that you have a decent amount of $$ to spend due to the fact that you're asking for 20:

1-20 test e or c 750-800mg/ew
1-18 eq 600mg/ew
1-6 dbol 30-40mg/ed
1-20 prov 25-50mg/ed
1-20 adex .5mg/eod
1-20 hcg 500ius/ew (250iu shot twice/ew)

22-27 nolva 40-40-40-20-20-20

taper off your adex as well....really would like to see some clomid in there but i think you'll be alright as long as you have the hcg in there. if you have a couple extra bucks and are feeling feisty, add: 1-10 tren a 50-75mg/ed.

~Alc

 

[timber1976]

once again, here i am bumping heads with holyghost going against the grain D). here's the minimalist suggestion based on 20 weeks, the fact that you're looking for lean gains (and not a straight out bulk), and assuming that you have a decent amount of $$ to spend due to the fact that you're asking for 20:

1-20 testosterone enanthate or c 750-800mg/ew
1-18 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 600mg/ew
1-6 Dianabol - methandrostenolone - 30-40mg/ed
1-20 Proviron - mesterolone - 25-50mg/ed
1-20 Arimidex - anastrozole - .5mg/eod
1-20 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500ius/ew (250iu shot twice/ew)

22-27 Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 40-40-40-20-20-20

taper off your Arimidex - anastrozole - as well....really would like to see some clomid in there but i think you'll be alright as long as you have the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - in there. if you have a couple extra bucks and are feeling feisty, add: 1-10 trenbolone a 50-75mg/ed.

~Alc

thanks alcatraz! but i will definately not do dianabol in there, will do anadrol if anything. definately gonna throw tren A in there and maybe mast.

 

[Varga]

WHY WOULDN'T I!? if u run Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - (like i lways do) you need a longer cycle to see maximum results. i lways run Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - at low dose ED throughout cycle and HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - in middle and end. i always recover within 2-3 weeks after cycle and keep most of what gained. i know alot of people say your destroying your natural test with this long of cycles, but b4 i ever cycled my natural test was at 425 at 21 yrs of age. Today at 30yrs old, 5 cycles later, all 20 week plus, i have been off for 5 months, bloodwork done last week, natural test came in at 485!

what cycles have you run before?

 

[EF Frank]

well it seems my other board got shut down so here i am bros. please help me design the best 20 week "on" cycle. NO CLOMID! i have ran as high as a gram of test per week.
right now i am 30yrs, 5'10'', 210lbs, about 14%, 5th cycle. looking to gain good quality lean and keepable muscle. i have all of these and any amounts at my disposal. thanks guys.

testosterone propionate, testosterone cypionate,
winni, mast, Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - , trenbolone, Primobolan - methenolone -
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - nandralone
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - , Clenbuterol

You should talk to one of our personal consultants , they will be able to advise and plan a great routine for you. Call me @ 212-823-1000

Thanks!!

 

[timber1976]

You should talk to one of our personal consultants , they will be able to advise and plan a great routine for you. Call me @ 212-823-1000

Thanks!!

Is this a free service frank?

 

[xrsist]

1-20 testosterone enanthate 500mg ew
1-18 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 600mg ew
1-10 trenbolone e 400-600mg ew
1-10 mast 400-600mg ew
1-4 abombs 50-100mg ed
7-12 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ed
10-18 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 400-600mg ew
16-20 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ed
10-12 Clenbuterol 80-120mcg ed
18-20 Clenbuterol 80-120mcg ed

PRICY!! LOL BUT A DREAM CYCLE NONE THE LESS lol

you are only making your self look more stupid and full of shit by not replying.. how much did you gain and keep with this cycle? what did your p c t look like?

 

[littleguy]

you are only making your self look more stupid and full of shit by not replying.. how much did you gain and keep with this cycle? what did your p c t look like?

LOL, kicking the shit out of him aren't ya!!
I as a low doser would also like to know the results of this cycle............