Help with Cutting Cycle Diet!

[HugeWannabe]

Hey bros,

i am 195 lbs 5'10"
13% (I know I know, I slipped [for 3 months])

I am going to be on a
winny, clen,t3,yohimburn, pgf2a, anavar cutting cycle

what should my ratios/numbers look like? Most of my fat is around my waste and love handles. Rest of the body is quite lean.

I can make up the diet easily so please help out with the numbers or cut and paste some sample diets. Thanks. I am new at cutting so please ask for any other info you need to help me out!

 

[RADAR]

To hell with all that stuff...when i wanna get cut i do cardio ,its good for the heart and improves my workout!!!! Then you can add extra hardness like winny or anavar...... RADAR

 

[HugeWannabe]

I just need to know what ratios and how many cals, I win be doing 30 mins carido 4-5x week!@

 

[Darksun]

What is your age? This is critical to mid-section fat deposits...

As RADAR said, do some non-catabolic cardio for at least 45 min a day in the morning...

 

[Vageta]

Check my "Not so low" low-carb diet on the diet board. I posted it there with all the details you need to know and as well as a link to an excel spreadsheet that figures everything out for you. As far as you cycle goes I wouldn't mix winny and anavar, I'd just choose one. Personally I'd choose anavar because you may actually put on some LBM while burning fat. I doubt winny could do the same. You may even throw in some liquidex/arimidex in low dosages. I've added this recently and it seems to help out even though I've never used AS that aromatize.

 

[HugeWannabe]

Check my "Not so low" low-carb diet on the diet board. I posted it there with all the details you need to know and as well as a link to an excel spreadsheet that figures everything out for you. As far as you cycle goes I wouldn't mix winny and anavar, I'd just choose one. Personally I'd choose anavar because you may actually put on some LBM while burning fat. I doubt winny could do the same. You may even throw in some liquidex/arimidex in low dosages. I've added this recently and it seems to help out even though I've never used AS that aromatize.

why would yopu not run winny and var at the same time?>

 

[Vageta]

Well first of all both are 17aa orals so if you did want to run them both you'd have to take half as much of each to keep your liver safe. Meaning if you had planned on doing 50mg ED of Ox you'd have to only do 25mg and then 25mg of Winny. Running both at full dosages would be hard on the liver.

Also both are considered diet drugs and I don't think they'd really stack well together. If I were going to stack 2 orals together it'd be Dbol and Ox, of course I'd run L-dex as well but you get the point. I think a higher dose of Ox alone would be better than running half doses of Ox and Winny.

I really don't have any personal experience with Winny but I do have plenty of experience with Ox and I can say I'll never bother with Winny. I'm extremely impressed with the results that Ox alone can give and I just don't see a reason to try Winny. Both will give you strength and hardness but I think Ox is superior as it will promote LBM gains while dieting much better than Winny can.

 

[HugeWannabe]

Well first of all both are 17aa orals so if you did want to run them both you'd have to take half as much of each to keep your liver safe. Meaning if you had planned on doing 50mg ED of Ox you'd have to only do 25mg and then 25mg of Winny. Running both at full dosages would be hard on the liver.

Also both are considered diet drugs and I don't think they'd really stack well together. If I were going to stack 2 orals together it'd be Dbol and Ox, of course I'd run L-dex as well but you get the point. I think a higher dose of Ox alone would be better than running half doses of Ox and Winny.

I really don't have any personal experience with Winny but I do have plenty of experience with Ox and I can say I'll never bother with Winny. I'm extremely impressed with the results that Ox alone can give and I just don't see a reason to try Winny. Both will give you strength and hardness but I think Ox is superior as it will promote LBM gains while dieting much better than Winny can.

Thanks for the info can anyone else comment on the diet? or a winny and var cycle? Is 300mg ALA ED and 1000mg Milk Thistle ED not enough for 50 winny and 40 var a day? I see a lot of people running like 100mg of drol a day and stuff, i know that doesn't make it safe though. So I guess 100mg winny ed and var @40mg ED is out of the question huh?

 

[HugeWannabe]

What is your age? This is critical to mid-section fat deposits...

As RADAR said, do some non-catabolic cardio for at least 45 min a day in the morning...

20 yrs old

 

[Vageta]

You can't just take more liver protectors and hope that it will make it safer to run higher doses. Many have done blood tests after oral cycles even while running high doses of ALA and they still had values way above normal. This isn't to say that they wouldn't have been higher without the ALA, but it does say that even with so called liver protectors you can still damage the liver.

I'd say 100mg winny and 40mg anavar daily is a bit high. You could attempt 50mg of winny and 40mg of anavar but keep a close eye on your health. Some people could take this and not break a sweat, others may be pissing brown in a few days.

If I were to run 2 orals I'd run Dbol at 30mg daily and Ox at 25mg and I feel this would be plenty. Doubling dosages doesn't mean you'll double your results but it will mean you'll double your side effects.

 

[HugeWannabe]

I am going to run winny at 100mg ED until I get my var, then i will run that at 40mg ED. Some help with the diet please!

Thanks

 

[Darksun]

At 20 years old, the fat around your waist and love handles should be relatively easy to get rid of without too much effort. Unless you have a predisposition for fat in this area, clean up your diet and do some cardio...
As a man gets older the first place he will "gather" fat is in the mid-section (women in their ass & thighs).
On the other hand, the first place it comes off is the mid-section...
It is due to a decreased test level being in the early 30's. At your age -- no problem.

 

[Vageta]

Stop by the diet board for diet information, there is plenty there. I pointed you to the diet I use and if you don't like it there are plenty of other outlined on that board. I will tell you that any type of diet you choose will work well for you whether it's iso-caloric, 40/30/30, CKD, TKD, whatever... They will all burn fat so pick one you can stick to.