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help with 4th cycle - for strength

suk1978

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anyone got any advice for me, female 26 yrs, 165lbs done 2 cycles of winny only and one cycle of dbol 9which didnt give me much gains). really enjoyed the gains on winny though, about 10lbs of muscle per cycle (6 weeks each) then 3 weeks pct of novaldex 20mcg/day.
im competing in april (non-tested comp) in powerlifitng, so i'm looking for something that increases my strength whilst maybe not so much of a mass builder. (ideally, but this may not be possible. either way i'm competing in the 75kg + so weight not a major issue)
i have got a slight bit of elbow tendonitis, for which i have pain killers from the doctor and wear elbow wraps, so i was thinking maybe i need to use some deca this cycle, to help my joints.
now, as i really like winny, i was hoping to combine them, but is this a good idea?? i know test and deca are a good cycle, althought maybe not for women, and the guy i get my stuff off is reluctant to give me sustanon (even in half dosages that guys would take) he thinks viromone is the way forward, although more expensive and more freq. injections...
could anyone give me any thoughts? i havent posted this up in the womens forum as i havent ever seen anyone mention deca on there.
cheers
 
suk1978 said:
anyone got any advice for me, female 26 yrs, 165lbs done 2 cycles of winny only and one cycle of dbol 9which didnt give me much gains). really enjoyed the gains on winny though, about 10lbs of muscle per cycle (6 weeks each) then 3 weeks pct of novaldex 20mcg/day.
im competing in april (non-tested comp) in powerlifitng, so i'm looking for something that increases my strength whilst maybe not so much of a mass builder. (ideally, but this may not be possible. either way i'm competing in the 75kg + so weight not a major issue)
i have got a slight bit of elbow tendonitis, for which i have pain killers from the doctor and wear elbow wraps, so i was thinking maybe i need to use some deca this cycle, to help my joints.
now, as i really like winny, i was hoping to combine them, but is this a good idea?? i know test and deca are a good cycle, althought maybe not for women, and the guy i get my stuff off is reluctant to give me sustanon (even in half dosages that guys would take) he thinks viromone is the way forward, although more expensive and more freq. injections...
could anyone give me any thoughts? i havent posted this up in the womens forum as i havent ever seen anyone mention deca on there.
cheers
Bump for her....
 
if you have tendonitis, perahps winny isnt the best choice.
have you considered running a low dose deca/dbol cycle?

i think 200mg deca per week stacked wit 15-20mg dbol per day will yield very satisfying results for a competing female.

throw in 250mg susta in there and you're really smoking!
 
I'm always fearful of a woman using long esters. If you stick to the faster esters like winny, NPP, Test Prop, etc you can adjust he dosage acording t the undesirable sides. My GF gets great results(she has no desire to compete though) off of 25 to 50mg e3d, and 40 to 60mg e3d. At the higher doses, her sex drive was through the roof, and there was a little clitoral swelling, but that went away after the cycle. Hope this helps.

What were the effects of the Nolva? What dosage was the winny on the previous cycle?
 
Winny and deca is a very good combination. Deca can offset the dry joints and discomfort caused by winny. And if you've run winny in the past with no trouble I think your tendonitis will be fine (especially with deca).

Btw, you don't need to run nolvadex for PCT. Men run it to recover their testosterone production more quickly but that's not an issue in your case.
 
Nucman said:
I'm always fearful of a woman using long esters. If you stick to the faster esters like winny, NPP, Test Prop, etc you can adjust he dosage acording t the undesirable sides. My GF gets great results(she has no desire to compete though) off of 25 to 50mg e3d, and 40 to 60mg e3d. At the higher doses, her sex drive was through the roof, and there was a little clitoral swelling, but that went away after the cycle. Hope this helps.

What were the effects of the Nolva? What dosage was the winny on the previous cycle?


Nucman,
i used 50mg e3d for weeks 1+2
50mg e2d for week 3+4
50 mg e3d for weeks 5+6
i'm not sure whether the pyramiding is recommended, but i liked it - esp as thats normally the time when i feel it kicking in. got some minor clit swelling, nothing bad, a few spots but not many. i used novaldex to deal with water retention, although i'm not sure whether i had much in the first place - definelty not as much as when i did dbol
it also helped me psychologically in that i'd been on high testosterone levels to then having considerably less and a lot more estrogen. blocking a bit of the estrogen out for a few weeks worked good on my mood. i also got a lot less spots than the time i ran novaldex for a week at 10mcg. not sure if it's related or not :)
 
satchboogie said:
if you have tendonitis, perahps winny isnt the best choice.
have you considered running a low dose deca/dbol cycle?

i think 200mg deca per week stacked wit 15-20mg dbol per day will yield very satisfying results for a competing female.

throw in 250mg susta in there and you're really smoking!

hey,
i did do dbol on its own for my first ever cycle last january i went upto 20mg, (4tablets) and to be honest i didnt really like it at all. i dont think im a big fan of orals and it did give me major mood swings esp aggression :worried: which couldnt really be justified given the minor gains and water retention.
i would love to do sustanon but i'm worried about the fact it is used by various of my transgendered friends to transisiton to men...not exactly a look i'm aiming for! plus the gym owner, who gets me my stuff is dead against me doing that one, although money would abviously speak louder than words..
 
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