HELP! Winstrol by itself!

[trickz7]

Hey guys! Alright so I'm totally new to this. I have always struggled with putting on weight. I am built very lean and with a super fast metabolism. My BF has always ranged between 5.4 and 7% wether I am working out or not. I have been working out for the past 6 years. By myself, with friends, trainers and dietitians and haven't seen any impact. I'm 22 years old 6'3 and a dense 175 on a good day. I am a martial arts instructor, freerunner, and acrobat. The most gains I have seen was a couple years ago when I had a trainer and was ingesting 10-15,000 calories and day with all the Protein and supps to go with it. I gained about 8 pounds in two months and wasted around 2,500 grand on the trainer and supps, not to mention the money for food. I have decided to take steroids to help with the gains I want. I looking to put on 10-15 pounds of muscle over a 1-2 month period. Im not looking for any huge gains, and if i can help it i would not like to to be noticeable at all. It would have a very negative impact on my job if people can tell I am on roids. I have been thinking about taking winstrol by itself, but have heard that might not give me any gains just strength. Which I am not totally opposed to since it is my first cycle; however, a lot of people have told me I should stack it with deca. The only thing I don't want to do is lose weight. Im also thinkin bout takin tren with winstrol...can you do that? I would love to hear anyones advice. Well thats all I will put in this post and see what I hear back. Also I need to know about PCT!!

Thanks for your help!

 

[eClenbuterol]

You need to do a ton more research than just listening to people,injecting something in to your body is serious business.
If you want to test the waters then start with anavar

 

[C.K.]

It wrecked my shoulders/elbows and tendons not worth running it solo...

 

[joe d]

i know you can put on weight with diet alone. running winny alone or with tren would be a big mistake. running any steroid right now would be a mistake. if you are open to the idea of working on the issue with diet lay out a days meal plans and pm me the link to it. or if youd like just lay it out in the pm.

 

[trickz7]

i know you can put on weight with diet alone. running winny alone or with tren would be a big mistake. running any steroid right now would be a mistake. if you are open to the idea of working on the issue with diet lay out a days meal plans and pm me the link to it. or if youd like just lay it out in the pm.

I eat really well and workout constantly. Im sure I can put on the weight with just a diet plan, but its just not fast enough for me. I would really like to take something light to help out with the weight gain. diet and a workout plan will be the biggest part. Its really a matter of needing to gain the weight fast for personal and work related issues. would you mind letting me know why you think it is such a bad idea to take any steroid? I am not planning on taking them soon, just in the research process.

 

[pip88]

I will never understand why newbie people want to run winny so bad. Is it because of the word "winny". I just dont see how that started out as something first time steroid users should run.

Having said that I dont doubt you on being a hard gainer but then again I dont have a whole lot of hope with alot of the trainers they have running around today. I think it would help if you posted a diet for what you eat everyday.

 

[joe d]

I eat really well and workout constantly. Im sure I can put on the weight with just a diet plan, but its just not fast enough for me. I would really like to take something light to help out with the weight gain. diet and a workout plan will be the biggest part. Its really a matter of needing to gain the weight fast for personal and work related issues. would you mind letting me know why you think it is such a bad idea to take any steroid? I am not planning on taking them soon, just in the research process.

it is a bad idea because you currently are not in a situation where your diet and training are good and growth has come to a hault do to natural limitations. using steroids before this point is an uneducated bad decision that will limit your overall progress and create unnecessary risks. the use will create minimal gains that will soon be lost once the cycle is over leaving your body in a worst state than it was in before the cycle. if you want to grow now your focus should be on diet and training. getting these 2 down would give you great gains.

 

[jimmyhav]

Joe has some great advice. Post up your diet too. You took in 10-15,000 calories a day over 2 months and only gained 8 pounds at 175? LORD HAVE MERCY! Consider yourself blessed. I'm not really sure what you're trying to do. In one post you said that you don't want to gain weight too quick and look like your taking AAS (because of your job) and in the next post you say that you need to gain weight quickly for personal and work issues. Posting up here is definitely a step in the right direction and Joe has been around a while. He really knows what he's talking about.

 

[EliteFitnessGuy]

Hey guys! Alright so I'm totally new to this. I have always struggled with putting on weight. I am built very lean and with a super fast metabolism. My BF has always ranged between 5.4 and 7% wether I am working out or not. I have been working out for the past 6 years. By myself, with friends, trainers and dietitians and haven't seen any impact. I'm 22 years old 6'3 and a dense 175 on a good day. I am a martial arts instructor, freerunner, and acrobat. The most gains I have seen was a couple years ago when I had a trainer and was ingesting 10-15,000 calories and day with all the Protein and supps to go with it. I gained about 8 pounds in two months and wasted around 2,500 grand on the trainer and supps, not to mention the money for food. I have decided to take steroids to help with the gains I want. I looking to put on 10-15 pounds of muscle over a 1-2 month period. Im not looking for any huge gains, and if i can help it i would not like to to be noticeable at all. It would have a very negative impact on my job if people can tell I am on roids. I have been thinking about taking winstrol by itself, but have heard that might not give me any gains just strength. Which I am not totally opposed to since it is my first cycle; however, a lot of people have told me I should stack it with deca. The only thing I don't want to do is lose weight. Im also thinkin bout takin tren with winstrol...can you do that? I would love to hear anyones advice. Well thats all I will put in this post and see what I hear back. Also I need to know about PCT!!

Thanks for your help!

An important thing you should realize is that with a non-aromatizable steroid like Winstrol, you will gain only functional muscles (contractile proteins, myofibrils), which equals strength. With aromatizable steroids, you will gain functional muscles as well, but you will also flood your body with a noggin of water. As a result, you will gain much more weight and you will be much bigger, but most of your overall weight and size gains will consist of non-functional water.

So, if you want to add some muscle to your body frame, it makes little difference if you use Winstrol or some aromatizable steroid - as long as the strength gain is the same, because strength gain is a marker of a real muscle gain. The only difference will be aesthetic.

As for Winstrol, it is a pretty strong steroid, but considering that the growth of functional muscle is a very slow process, don't expect that you will look like Arnold overnight. You will have to run several cycles to see some marked difference in appearance. And overall, Winstrol is not the best choice, by the way. It is very harsh on cholesterol, and I experienced such a hellish joint pain from it that I had to stop using it completely. If you want to run some good oral steroid, Anavar is much better and it can be very cheap, if you find some Chinese source. Stacking Winstrol with Deca is not a bad idea, however, because Winstrol can block the progestagenic effect of Deca, and Deca heals joints that Winstrol damages. Moreover, these two steroids should support each other in action.