Help w/ Cycle Setup

[Swizzle15]

First post here, looking for some solid advice before I start a cycle.

I'm 24 years old, 6'1 and weigh about 203 pounds at about 14-16% BF. I've been training consistently since I was 17 or so. My diet is in check and I monitor everything I eat on a daily basis, making sure that I hit my macro goals. I am consuming 2600 calories with 1.25 g/lb protein, .45 g/lb fat and the rest carbohydrates. I've determined that the 2600 is right around my maintenance. My goal from this cycle is to recomp with a slight gain in LBM with the highest gain being 7-12 pounds

Here's what I will have to work with: 2 ml test e, 5,000 IU HCG, 36 50 mg clomid, and 15 1 mg arimadex.

From what I've gathered, I'm looking at running 500 mg/wk test e for 10 weeks and using the HCG at 250 IU twice per week from about weeks 3-12. The clomid I will dose at 100/50/50/50 and start that two weeks after the last pin. The arimadex, I am unsure about. I've read to dose it at about .25 mg/eod but here's my issue: I don't want to bloat or suffer any sides but want to make sure that my estrogen stays high enough to not hinder my gains. You tell me what to do there.

What is the difference between HCG and HCGenerate? Would I be okay taking HCGenerate in pill form as opposed to pinning the HCG that I will have? Also, would it be useful for me to add any other compound such as anavar/winstrol in hopes of hardening up what I gain from the cycle? There are those that say anavar doesn't work unless you're under 10% BF and those that say winny is only a temporary fix and your gains from it disappear when you get off, which obviously means either of those wouldn't be for me.

Hoping to get some advice from you all on what I should add/takeaway, fix with my cycle, etc. Thanks guys!

 

[oxymoron]

Being ur first cycle id just stick with test only. I would consider running it longer... maybe 12 wks. Also u can get away with hcgenerate on cycle, just start taking it week 3 or 4 up to start of pct. Also you can add Forma Stanozolol to the cycle to manage bloat and as general AI.
reduce ur clomid dosage by 1/4. So start at 25.
use a bottle of unleashed and post cycle with the clomid in ur pct. u could run the forma thru ur pct also and keep the adex on hand to fight any gyno flare ups.
Good luck.
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[Swizzle15]

I actually took a cycle of deca/test my freshman year in college because I thought my buddy, who was a pre-med major, knew everything about it and had it set up correctly. Turns out the cycle he put us on was not one for beginners and the nolvadex that we used for PCT was obviously not the best idea. Before that I tried various prohormones so unfortunately I am not too new to the game, but just trying to make sure that this time it's done correctly and with all bases covered.

 

[Swizzle15]

So you're saying run the test 12 weeks? I initially was planning on that, but the amount I have will only last for 10 if taken at 500/wk. I can extend it to 12 if I drop to 400/wk. Is that a better option?

Also, I found the Post Cycle/Unleashed combo and will pick that up. Should I also start those two weeks after the last pin like the Clomid? And you're saying dose the Clomid at what levels?

Can the arimadex be used to reduce the bloat and that type of thing as well? Like I mentioned earlier, I was told something along the lines of .25/mg eod if I wanted to run it throughout.

 

[ppgfreak]

I would definitely run it longer, 12 weeks minimum. It takes weeks for test e to even kick in. I love winny, it works great on me. I don't think I loss the gains when I come off either. But I've only used low doses, so it could be different at a higher amount.

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[muscleaddiction]

Being ur first cycle id just stick with test only. I would consider running it longer... maybe 12 wks. Also u can get away with hcgenerate on cycle, just start taking it week 3 or 4 up to start of pct. Also you can add Forma Stanozolol to the cycle to manage bloat and as general AI.
reduce ur clomid dosage by 1/4. So start at 25.
use a bottle of unleashed and post cycle with the clomid in ur pct. u could run the forma thru ur pct also and keep the adex on hand to fight any gyno flare ups.
Good luck.
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^^^ good advice here bro...stick with test only. Your cycle would look something like this:

1-12 Test E 500mg (250mg Sun & Thurs)
5-12 HCGenerate (5 caps ED)
12-14 HCG (500iu EOD)
15-18 Clomid 50/25/25/12.5mg
13-18 Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo (3 caps ea. ED)
13-20 Forma Stanzol (10 pumps ED, 5 morn & even)

Use Adex @ .5mg EOD if estrogen sides arise (bloating, gyno, etc.), but see if it becomes an issue before starting. I like Aromasin better as it is a suicide inhibitor...12.5mg EOD.

Make sure to use a good on cycle support supplement like N2 Guard, EFA's like Krill or Fish Oil, can use Creatine, BCAA's, a good clean weight gainer or at least a quality protein powder to make some high clean calorie rich shakes, eat lots of clean healthy foods...drink plenty of water.

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[Swizzle15]

^^^ good advice here bro...stick with test only. Your cycle would look something like this:

1-12 Test E 500mg (250mg Sun & Thurs)
5-12 HCGenerate (5 caps ED)
12-14 HCG (500iu EOD)
15-18 Clomid 50/25/25/12.5mg
13-18 Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo (3 caps ea. ED)
13-20 Forma Stanzol (10 pumps ED, 5 morn & even)

Use Adex @ .5mg EOD if estrogen sides arise (bloating, gyno, etc.), but see if it becomes an issue before starting. I like Aromasin better as it is a suicide inhibitor...12.5mg EOD.

Make sure to use a good on cycle support supplement like N2 Guard, EFA's like Krill or Fish Oil, can use Creatine, BCAA's, a good clean weight gainer or at least a quality protein powder to make some high clean calorie rich shakes, eat lots of clean healthy foods...drink plenty of water.

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That's awesome. Thanks for the help!

I currently take Orange Triad, monohydrate creatine, fish oil and rotate between different pre-workouts. I'll pick up what you mentioned and wait until that gets here to start. Looks like I'll have way too much HCG, clomid, and arimadex, but better safe than sorry I suppose.