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Help Recommend A Cycle... Tips...

I am looking for help on putting together the best cycle possible. Price is of no object for this. Right now im running 120mgs of tbol and 120mgs of anavar both british dragon on my 2nd week. Anyways I need to put together a cycle which will give me toned results soo basically drop the fat but i would like to add on lots of muscle as well i was thinking about anadrol and something else. I am trying to stay away from injectables because I dont think i will be able to stick anything into my ass haha. If i have to then i will use injectables. anyways im open to all opinions let me know what you all think guys thanks
 
Injectibles used to scare me, but they give you better results and are safer on your liver. Shots don't hurt as bad as they did when you were 5. Trust me.
 
molockman1 said:
Injectibles used to scare me, but they give you better results and are safer on your liver. Shots don't hurt as bad as they did when you were 5. Trust me.
I already know this but im looking on tips on what kind of stuff i should run can anyone help me with that?
 
CanadianRectangle said:
I am looking for help on putting together the best cycle possible. Price is of no object for this. Right now im running 120mgs of tbol and 120mgs of anavar both british dragon on my 2nd week. Anyways I need to put together a cycle which will give me toned results soo basically drop the fat but i would like to add on lots of muscle as well i was thinking about anadrol and something else. I am trying to stay away from injectables because I dont think i will be able to stick anything into my ass haha. If i have to then i will use injectables. anyways im open to all opinions let me know what you all think guys thanks

Gee, that is way too much. Usually people run no more than 50mg anavar, maybe 100mg tops. And stacking that with t-bol at a dosage 3 times higher than average? You're just asking for trouble...
 
azul said:
Gee, that is way too much. Usually people run no more than 50mg anavar, maybe 100mg tops. And stacking that with t-bol at a dosage 3 times higher than average? You're just asking for trouble...
ya im lowering the dosage after saterday ummm i need help assembeling a cycle though
 
CanadianRectangle said:
ya im lowering the dosage after saterday ummm i need help assembeling a cycle though

Bro, you were on here a while ago and you got banned, right?
 
10 week cycle.
week 1-10.Test 400mg split 2x week.
week 1-10.Deca 200mg 1x week.
week 5-10(starting week 5)winny .50mg e.o.d.
You'll love this.
 
1UNDER said:
10 week cycle.
week 1-10.Test 400mg split 2x week.
week 1-10.Deca 200mg 1x week.
week 5-10(starting week 5)winny .50mg e.o.d.
You'll love this.

I'm sorry, but that's pretty terrible.

Take a higher dose of deca for sure, and take winny ed.
 
azul said:
I'm sorry, but that's pretty terrible.

Take a higher dose of deca for sure, and take winny ed.
Thats not terrible,more deca is just a waste and ed jabs for someone who doesn't like injects you don't need.
Perfect cycle for size and strength for a newbi.
 
Thats not terrible,more deca is just a waste and ed jabs for someone who doesn't like injects you don't need.
Perfect cycle for size and strength for a newbi.

?!?! More deca is a waste? You are mistaken...

10 week cycle.
week 1-8.Test E 400mg split 2x week.
week 1-8.Deca 400mg 1x week.
week 6-10. Winstrol Depot 50mg ED (Drink It)
You'll love this.

This will work... Ends up ending at end of week 10, hence the name: 10 week cycle.

PS Test E will cause water retention but you can reduce that with Sust or Avoid it with prop, prop inj are ed or eod...
 
1UNDER said:
Thats not terrible,more deca is just a waste and ed jabs for someone who doesn't like injects you don't need.
Perfect cycle for size and strength for a newbi.

No need to inject winny when you can take it orally.

Deca at 200mg is a joke. Anyone who's done it before can tell you that 600mg is way better than 200mg.
 
I disagree about the deca for a first timer,it is a waste,I would bump up the test before doing 400mg of deca but thats me.
Drinking the winny now passes it through the gut and liver first so I don't think 50 would be enough.I've heard the debate on it every where and I think injecting it is the way to go.
Why would you stop the test after 8 weeks.
 
1UNDER said:
I disagree about the deca for a first timer,it is a waste,I would bump up the test before doing 400mg of deca but thats me.
Drinking the winny now passes it through the gut and liver first so I don't think 50 would be enough.I've heard the debate on it every where and I think injecting it is the way to go.
Why would you stop the test after 8 weeks.

Actually, there is no evidence that there is a significant difference between oral and injectible winstrol.
 
azul said:
Actually, there is no evidence that there is a significant difference between oral and injectible winstrol.
Only that you have to take alot more of the oral to get the same effect as the injectable.
 
ok soo what would you all recommend i do if im doing a 8-10 week cycle perferablly 8 and i dont want to do anything thats going to give me aches and pains and i need some good dosages and how often would i have to inject or take the orals and what should my calorie intake be

azul said:
Actually, there is no evidence that there is a significant difference between oral and injectible winstrol.
 
1UNDER said:
Only that you have to take alot more of the oral to get the same effect as the injectable.

Actually, not true. I'd post a study, but the site that has it is currently down.
 
CanadianRectangle said:
ok soo what would you all recommend i do if im doing a 8-10 week cycle perferablly 8 and i dont want to do anything thats going to give me aches and pains and i need some good dosages and how often would i have to inject or take the orals and what should my calorie intake be

Well, assuming you've done a few cycles, I would recommend the following:
10 weeks
500mg of test, frontload 1G for 2 weeks.
400-600mg of deca or EQ, frontload double for 1-2 weeks.
1-4: Maybe some d-bol or t-bol
6-10: Maybe some winny
Or you can run anavar throughout the cycle as well.

Test should be injected twice a week, same with deca or EQ. Caloric intake... if you're bulking, I'd recommend around 4000 calories if you're around 200lbs.
 
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