help please with question on ephedrine

[ozzy]

A couple of months ago I was on the homemade E/C/A stack and when I discontinued using I crashed hard. It took me three weeks just to get any energy back, I mean I could barely get out of my own way. I am assuming that is due to the caffeine withdrawals? Am I wrong on that? My question is, if it was indeed the caffeine that made me crash so hard, would I see any benefits of taking ephedrine on its own along with a lot of cardio? But if it was the ephedrine all along that caused me to crash then please let me know and I won't even think about touching it. Its not worth the hell it caused me when I came off. Thanks guys..

oz

 

[Will B. Big]

Its the ephedrine...it affects central nervous system....thats why you crashed.

 

[queeny239]

its no tjust the ephridirine its the caffine and asprin too. as you already know they work synergyley meaning they asprin and caffine make the ephridine alot stronger. if you are gonna due a stack like that again dont cut out cold turkey but instead drop the caffine or reduce the dosage slowly and then the same for the asprin. ive used ephridine for 4 years and i only did the stack once and didnt like it but to answer you other question you can use it alone with alot of cardio, it worked for me. good luck

 

[Dutch windmill]

I'm with queeny on this one the aspirine and the caffeine make the thermogenic effect better and make it last longer. If you're sensitive to either one of these. You'd better stay of it. The only way you'll know which one it is to try them all seperately.. My advise is that you give the herbal equivalents a try. The dont work to the same degree though. But they cause a lot less sides.

Hope to have helped you a bit

 

[TxLonghorn]

Actually, you can toss the aspirin unless you are morbidly obese. This has been corroborated by research, it adds no benefit unless you have some serious weight to gain.

 

[FullCircle]

Studies have shown that caffien alone, when used daily can cause a withdrawl of 9-18 days. Symptoms include headache, nausea, lethargy, lack of endurance...ect.

I am sure that the ephedrine also has a period of withdrawl (can look in medline) which would only make the withdrawl worse/longer than with the caffien alone. I kinda wean myself off of it when I stop (i.e. use only once a day, then half dose a day,then none) for a period of a couple weeks.

-FC

 

[Nathan]

When I've used eca and come off I've had no problems, personally. Could be because I also drink a fair bit of Diet Pepsi (few cans each day) so I didn't have to endure any complete withdrawal from any stimulants. I agree that you should taper yourself off. For instance, if you take 3 the stack 3 times daily, then redude it to once a half hour before you workout for a week or two and then drop that too. You can become dependent on the eca to have a good workout and that's not a good thing.

 

[WarriorPL]

my friend took xenadrine for 4 monthes straight and stopped using it for about 2 monthes, the first month was nuts, he was always in a rage, like the smallest thing ticked him off, i was scared.


~WizKid

 

[foreverblast2]

definitely no more cold turkey shit k? lol... I was taking four pills of Extreme ECA for two months and now 2 days ago I dropped to 3 and i can STILL feel the tiredness wearing on... lol... It doesn't make a difference in the gym cuz I'm so fucking hyper but afterwards man I just feel like laying on the bed sleeping... today I found myself taking a nap at 8PM, lol... that can't be healthy... I think I'll stick with 3 pills a day for 2 more weeks before even thinking about dropping another tab.

john

 

[booger]

Why get off it?

I been on it for over 20 years on a every other day basis. I'm not dead yet and and my Pulse and BP are fine. As you age your energy declines anyway. You don't want to end up some old geezer of 80 being pushed around in a wheel chair. I figure I can generate youthful energy into my 60's using this stuff and other prescription items. Maybe longer. But gravity and the normal wear and tear of life will eventually wear us all down. At that point you get some good acid and any number of different other chemicals and float off into 'never never land'. Never to be heard from again. Even if you don't die outright your brain will be cooked, you won't be aware of it, and you'll be someone elses problem. Why worry about life, you'll never get out of it alive.

 

[ragin']

i dont know about doing it for that long. one of the only supps you should use indefineley are vitamins. 20 years is a long time to be on eph. your body probably depends on it now, try coming off and see what happens.

 

[booger]

Why?

I got not reason to come off. I know I'd crash hard. I look around me at the people my age and they look like shit, have no energy, and if they were horses would have been sent to the 'glue factory' years ago. You're young. Wait till you pass half a century and see if you still think the way you do. The problem with people is that their analytical consciousness has been circumvented by a the word/definition method of communication. Everyone's got their own credibility factors when it comes to believing something. It reminds me of the junk mail I get all the time from some doctor claiming to have the secret of slowing the aging process. There's usually a picture of some old gray haired guy smiling and I think. 'If you got all these answers, then what the hell happened to you'. But you know what. Someone must be sending their money for this bunk or else he wouldn't be advertising this crap. There is always some 'latest thing' that will help you achieve muscular immortality. Few remain over time. ECA has. Creatine has although it doesn't seem to have the punch it did when I was younger. This prohormone thing will probably be around for quite a while although after talking anabolic steroids when I was young I don't see where prohormones do much.
And I've tried my share of them. No comparison. But young people will grow whether they take it or not. Provided they train, rest, and eat right. But if they take prohormones they seem to attribute their gains to the chemical, and not the fitness lifestyle they are involved in. These marketing expert will do anything for a buck. Throw a few medical terms in, get some national bodybuilding star to promote it, and ....
money, money, money. Nuff said.

 

[ragin']

guess so..!!!! i stand corrected.. at least i'll know what to take when i'm over the hill.